That scripture or any other one for that matter, means nothing to me. They are just words rearranged by somebody I do not know or trust.
bay64me
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What does this scripture mean to you?
by Valis ini brought this up during the beginnings of the flame war we just encountered and it got overlooked.
for all of you who follow the bible/or not.
luke 9.
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TRICKY SITUATION update
by bay64me insome of you responded to a recent thread http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=35873&site=3.. last week i was confronted by the lady next door asking me if i had reported her to the social services.
i had not and told her so.
she then went on to say that although her partner and her did have loud arguments, the children were not at risk.
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bay64me
Thank you Nilfun, I really needed to hear that. I appreciated what you said to me last time when you mentioned 'stepping outside of my fear' and I think it was with that in mind that helped me to muster up the courage to do what I did in trying to help.
Thank you, Bay.
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TRICKY SITUATION update
by bay64me insome of you responded to a recent thread http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=35873&site=3.. last week i was confronted by the lady next door asking me if i had reported her to the social services.
i had not and told her so.
she then went on to say that although her partner and her did have loud arguments, the children were not at risk.
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bay64me
Dismembered, I don't see that me moving will change anything for her. Anyway he is the one with the problem and therefore if anybody should move it ought to be him!
In my first post about this, I was asking for advice as to what to do. I listened to a lot of the comments made and generally the mode of thought was to involve the authorities. OK it's still early days but i'm maby thinking that if that doesn't do any good I may have to try something else like get him evicted for the hassle factor?
He, by his behaviour is intimidating myself and my own family. When we hear his raised voice and her screams, we relive our past. That is unpleasant and distressing and something that I see no reason for!
Mamshel" It is nice to see someone that is concerned though. I hope things turn out well " yes I am concerned but must admit that my concern is equaled with fear.
Dia, I will try to befriend her and will be there for her if she needs any help or support.
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TRICKY SITUATION update
by bay64me insome of you responded to a recent thread http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=35873&site=3.. last week i was confronted by the lady next door asking me if i had reported her to the social services.
i had not and told her so.
she then went on to say that although her partner and her did have loud arguments, the children were not at risk.
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bay64me
Some of you responded to a recent thread http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=35873&site=3.
Last week I was confronted by the lady next door asking me if I had reported her to the Social Services. I had not and told her so. She then went on to say that although her partner and her did have loud arguments, the children were not at risk. So obviously somebody else has had the same concerns as me! By her own excuses, I assumed that she is in some state of denial and left it at that.
This morning at about 9am, I heard loud thuds and doors slamming and the lady next door again ran out into the garden screaming for help. I opened my bedroom window and saw that he had her pinned up against the wall, I asked her what she wanted me to do and she screamed "get the police". While I was dialling 999 he jumped in his car and screeched off and away.
Ten minutes later the lady came to my door, babe in arms and little girl aged about eight. She then said "it's alright now" and went on to tell me that he doesn't actually hit her anymore, he just has a very violent temper, the police know all about him as they've had problems before and asked me again if it was I that had called Social Services. I told her that I had called the police and that they would be on their way and she said that she was afraid of losing her home??? She also insisted that her children were not at risk???
Another ten minutes and the police arrived and left again after about half an hour. They never spoke to me although I did give my name and adress when I called them.
Half an hour ago he returned and is back in the house?! I can only presume that the lady is maby not ready to take any action against him either out of fear or perhaps not knowing what to do!
Now her fear is my fear. I wonder what he will do next. I have called the police on him and somebody else has got the Social Services involved. I am afraid of his anger too. What next?
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...you mean, you weren't raised JW?
by DanTheMan ini found it humorous and sad and revealing when i was in jerhover's borganization that this is the reaction i often got from the younger, raised in the troof jws.
reading facial expressions and body language, it was more than apparent to me that they were thinking, "you mean you weren't forced into this??
you actually chose to be a jw??!!".
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bay64me
I think that not being brought up in the 'truth' made me feel in a no-win situation as far as my relationship with the congregation was concerned.
If I was doing well, there were the jealous-sister-types, who could not wait to see me fall flat on my face!
When I had 'trials', according to them, I hadn't enough maturity to deal with them.
If I missed a field service arrangment or meeting, (which wasn't that often anyway) then 'the bubble had burst!
One M.S. even told me that he had seen these newly converted types "go up like a rocket and crash down again with a bang" and I believe that that was what they were all waiting for!
Incidentally, my bubble didn't pop. Nor did I crash down with a bang.........I just eventually saw through all the lies and got tired of their hypocrisy and judgmental ways and chose a better way for myself.
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Bill Bowen, Who Are the Five?
by IslandWoman inbill's letter stated:with the current the allegation that theodore jaracz is a child molester, this now brings to five the number of governing body members who are alleged child molesters.
who are the five alleged child molesters who have been or are governing body members?
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bay64me
Oh my god, this gets more horrific each time I log on to this site.
Is this really true.....5 members of the governing body are accused of child molestation?
If this is true then we all should be made aware of it!
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To all U.K. posters....
by Bendrr insomething i've always wanted to do is take some trip overseas to another country.
england has always been my first choice.. now i'm in a position to actually take a vacation in england.
i looked at some prices on expedia.com for airline/hotel combos for a week's trip to england and what i found made me very hopeful about going.. i tentatively "planned" the trip on the website for around the last part of february or the first part of march since that would be in the "slow" season at work and they could spare me.
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bay64me
Could you fit in some time to visit North Wales too?
It is very beautiful there.
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DO YOU SWEAR MORE THAN BEFORE???
by minimus inone of my best friends, an ex-elder, swears alot.
years ago i never would have sworn.
but they say bad assocaiation spoils useful habits, so what the -----.
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bay64me
Definately.
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Did The Organization MAKE YOU GO NUTS???
by minimus indid you or do you now feel that because you were in the organization you could have gone crazy?
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bay64me
YES!
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What "RULES" Did YOU Want To BREAK?
by minimus insince the organization has so many rules, did you ever just want to break a rule, just to do it?
one rule that i enjoyed breaking was the 15 to 20 minute rule that you were supposed to come to the meeting early.
i was regularly tardy.
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bay64me
The unwritten but very well expressed by my elders rule, that said we should not bring reproach upon jehovahs name or organisation by letting others know that your husband beat the shit out of you. Or the other famous rule about not involving the authorities when the same bastard should be behind bars when he punched the kids.