Are we allowed to read critical stuff? - of course the Church doesn't recommend it but it also says we have to be as educated as our circumstances and personal preferences dictate i.e get a degree or two, read everything you can (though with a guidance to search out knowledge from the best books the world has - read that any which way you want!) I certainly have been on every anti LDS site I can find, read all our past history from anti - pro sides and so on. The church does publish its own history but in general they don't hide much - (they do gloss over some though - the really juicy stuff:) When I was a missionary I read the red JW book and doodled on the picture with the lion, the boy and the beach ball (or is that one of my wierd dreams?) , I've read most of the Koran, the Tao Ching but I haven't yet read Harry potter and the Philosophers Stone - way too apostate:)
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41Understanding why people leave
by Qcmbr inhi all, just thought i'd introduce myself before i make any other posts - i'm lds through and through 'nuff said.
why am i here, well i've been reading the posts here for over a year and i initially enjoyed them in a sneaky rival faction way (i.e.
one in the eye for jw's yehaw..)but of late i've been redaing these posts and using them to critique my own approach to my faith.
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Understanding why people leave
by Qcmbr inhi all, just thought i'd introduce myself before i make any other posts - i'm lds through and through 'nuff said.
why am i here, well i've been reading the posts here for over a year and i initially enjoyed them in a sneaky rival faction way (i.e.
one in the eye for jw's yehaw..)but of late i've been redaing these posts and using them to critique my own approach to my faith.
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Rivalry between the JWs and LDS .. almost feel that should be a different topic hehe. When I was a missionary we used to try and knock on the doors of streets just ahead of JWs just to get one over. If people thought we were JW when we talked on the doorstep we always made some smart alec comment like- 'Do we look that unhappy?' Yea - no love lost there. Silly really. I always had this dream that somehow all the JWs would see the light , joins 'us' and we'd all be one happy family. Of course once I got over myself I started to look at everyone as equal...still I can't quite get over the buzz I get when I duel on the doorstep with a JW or two (OK I know I shouldnt but I'm not perfect).
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Understanding why people leave
by Qcmbr inhi all, just thought i'd introduce myself before i make any other posts - i'm lds through and through 'nuff said.
why am i here, well i've been reading the posts here for over a year and i initially enjoyed them in a sneaky rival faction way (i.e.
one in the eye for jw's yehaw..)but of late i've been redaing these posts and using them to critique my own approach to my faith.
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Hi PC - never read it - I guess it is about LDS dodgy history, polygamy etc..?
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Understanding why people leave
by Qcmbr inhi all, just thought i'd introduce myself before i make any other posts - i'm lds through and through 'nuff said.
why am i here, well i've been reading the posts here for over a year and i initially enjoyed them in a sneaky rival faction way (i.e.
one in the eye for jw's yehaw..)but of late i've been redaing these posts and using them to critique my own approach to my faith.
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Wow GetBusyLiving - right for my jugular:) - yea we have handshakes and underwear that represents our covenant. Why? - the best answer I can give is that its all symbolic of stuff in the bible - wearing our religion I guess. I don't wear a cassock (is that how you spell it?) or a dog collar but I do wear things that symbolise my promises to God(a bit like baptism but a whole lot more itchy) I guess the most difficult part about your question is that I promised not to talk about it! There are plenty of sites though on the net that tell all (though a trifle out of context I think:)
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Understanding why people leave
by Qcmbr inhi all, just thought i'd introduce myself before i make any other posts - i'm lds through and through 'nuff said.
why am i here, well i've been reading the posts here for over a year and i initially enjoyed them in a sneaky rival faction way (i.e.
one in the eye for jw's yehaw..)but of late i've been redaing these posts and using them to critique my own approach to my faith.
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Hiya Zen - your logic is flawless and I have to say right. That's why I always search out everything I can to hit against my faith - ie if its true it should always be true not just from a certain angle on a Sunday morning after three hours of sermons and two dead butt cheeks and so I wouldnt dream of arguing my viewpoint but the old stumbling point I always get to (especially in my wobbling days) was that gosh darn it I really got an answer. I'm a sceptic and its the most illogical thing in the world to me.
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Understanding why people leave
by Qcmbr inhi all, just thought i'd introduce myself before i make any other posts - i'm lds through and through 'nuff said.
why am i here, well i've been reading the posts here for over a year and i initially enjoyed them in a sneaky rival faction way (i.e.
one in the eye for jw's yehaw..)but of late i've been redaing these posts and using them to critique my own approach to my faith.
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Yea sorry about the terminology - 'bearing testimony' - witnessing , preaching , cramming you belief down others throat etc... I'll try and avoid it - as regards the prayer bit all members are encouraged to find God themselves through prayer not via the church and when they find Him they have their answer. We tag alot of extra to it like asking God if the LDS faith is 'the one and only' etc.. which I'm sure reminds a lot of you about JW teachings about the primacy of the borg.
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Understanding why people leave
by Qcmbr inhi all, just thought i'd introduce myself before i make any other posts - i'm lds through and through 'nuff said.
why am i here, well i've been reading the posts here for over a year and i initially enjoyed them in a sneaky rival faction way (i.e.
one in the eye for jw's yehaw..)but of late i've been redaing these posts and using them to critique my own approach to my faith.
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Are people cut off if they leave - I guess everyone's experience is different but there is nothing in our philosophy that has any form of shunning to it. The nearest we get to that is if someone is disfellowshiped they can't participate in the service (ie they cant give public talks etc) or if they get excommunicated (youve got to be fairly naughty for that:) it annuls their baptism but all in all no shunning. Now thats not to say it doesnt happen - to my shame when I was 18 one of my best friends , someone who I had relied upon for growing up stuff and a really great guy left the church and I cut him off. Not becuase I was told to, just because it hurt so much - I guess when you love your church and someone else stops feeling the same way it feels a little like they rejected you. I've grown up a bit since then but even now I still feel hurt and critically I havent reestablished contact (hmm I think maybe I should do something about that!). As a final point - the core of LDS faith is the family over and above all other commitments (except the personal relationship with God) so anyone in our faith who shuns anyone or cuts them off is just a plonka. Guilty as charged.
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Understanding why people leave
by Qcmbr inhi all, just thought i'd introduce myself before i make any other posts - i'm lds through and through 'nuff said.
why am i here, well i've been reading the posts here for over a year and i initially enjoyed them in a sneaky rival faction way (i.e.
one in the eye for jw's yehaw..)but of late i've been redaing these posts and using them to critique my own approach to my faith.
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Hiya GetBusyLiving, Why did I become a Mormon? I grew up in the faith - simple as that. I did the prayer to find out if the church is true - got my answer - never really looked back (though I wobbled several times - especially after I was a missionary.) I do want to avoid 'bearing testimony'- I'm fairly certain this isn't what this site is for - but thanks for asking anyhow.
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Understanding why people leave
by Qcmbr inhi all, just thought i'd introduce myself before i make any other posts - i'm lds through and through 'nuff said.
why am i here, well i've been reading the posts here for over a year and i initially enjoyed them in a sneaky rival faction way (i.e.
one in the eye for jw's yehaw..)but of late i've been redaing these posts and using them to critique my own approach to my faith.
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Hi all, just thought I'd introduce myself before I make any other posts - I'm LDS through and through 'nuff said. Why am I here, well I've been reading the posts here for over a year and I initially enjoyed them in a sneaky rival faction way (i.e. one in the eye for Jw's yehaw..)but of late I've been redaing these posts and using them to critique my own approach to my faith. I'm on the side of trying to understand just why people can leave something they've literally given 100% to and I can see so many common stories between ex-JWs and ex-LDS. I guess what I'm trying to say is I appreciate that this site exists and most of the stuff here; I've begun to use in my own life (ie seeing the person as a person not just another statistic etc..) I've even used some principles espoused here in Sunday lessons (e.g. always question everything, find your own way to God, its OK to have your own viewpoint, if its true it stands on its own merits not because I said it etc etc..)Hopefully I'll be able to add something to conversations here (especially when you mention LDS stuff.)
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Are good looking ladies part of the plan?
by Qcmbr ini'm not a jw but we have a lot of door knocking in our area and i have to say ... there are a lot of really good looking ladies !!
is that your experience as well?
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I'm not a JW but we have a lot of door knocking in our area and I have to say ... there are a lot of really good looking ladies !! Is that your experience as well?!