For all you Joseph Smith whiners - have you actually read his story!!!?? He achieved more than any of us ever will. Josepg Smith IMHO is the greatest prophet ever to have walked this earth. But like I said before I am stupid.
Posts by Qcmbr
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32Do you ever wish you were a Moron?
by GetBusyLiving inis your bullsh*t meter always cranked up to overdrive these days?
i'm a happy enough guy but i find i get somewhat irritated reading of the faith people have in their belief systems, even outside of the dubs.
i'm not trying to be condecending with this post at all.
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Do you ever wish you were a Moron?
by GetBusyLiving inis your bullsh*t meter always cranked up to overdrive these days?
i'm a happy enough guy but i find i get somewhat irritated reading of the faith people have in their belief systems, even outside of the dubs.
i'm not trying to be condecending with this post at all.
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Qcmbr
Nope.
At the end of the day I love my faith - I class myself as a complete fool and idiot but that is not a reason to cast aside my moral, ethical, spiritual compass and start from scratch. Everything about me is coloured by the Mormon crayon and I really like the shade - I think I'm nicer, fitter, smarter, more balanced , honester person and more appreciative of what this life really means because of my beliefs. Ya can all reject deity, Mormons, JWs etc... I don't care I got me some colouring (note the correct Adamic, pre flood spelling of colour:-) to do. -
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Dr Who ... revenge of the BBC !
by Simon in.
the latest episode of dr who really made me laugh - the bbc script writers made some quite subtle but pointed digs at the government wo had previously 'won' (unfairly) after appointing their own judge as to whether the bbc or the government lied about iraq.. the pm got killed.. downing street got destroyed because of aliens with .... weapons of mass destruction that could be launched in 45 minutes seconds (which in the end turned out not to exist).
brilliant.
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Qcmbr
Saturday at 7pm on BBC1
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Qcmbr
This is what I think happened (and I do believe in a flood and ark):
I'm not overly certain that the flood covered the whole earth - I think it was an extremely large local flood and the animals referred to in the ark were local domesticated animals.
Occam's razor suggests:
Sailing was not unusual so most cultures would have had plenty of boats - ergo presumably plenty of people got in them during the flood (therefore plenty of people survived and all the races of the earth are accounted for.)
The polar areas have not melted for thousands upon thousands of years - a whole world flood would have melted them (not just by warmth but by pressure)
There is no global evidence for a flood (ie where are the mud layers that should cover most of the earth)
The volume of water required to cover the earth would have depressed the crust into the magma beneath and there would have been massive tectonic and volcanic behaviour.
An ark could not keep all the animal species alive.
To be a fundamentalist IMHO we have to say either:
1/ The flood happened way before the formation of the high mountains and the polar ice caps and these features including vast uplift and division of the earth happened after the flood in a very rapid manner.
2/ God intervened directly to gather the animals , store them and preserve all the freshwater species and then some geological process as yet understood soaked up all the water and removed evidence for the flood.
3/ Biblical time scales are wrong by a factor of millions of years. -
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Dr Who ... revenge of the BBC !
by Simon in.
the latest episode of dr who really made me laugh - the bbc script writers made some quite subtle but pointed digs at the government wo had previously 'won' (unfairly) after appointing their own judge as to whether the bbc or the government lied about iraq.. the pm got killed.. downing street got destroyed because of aliens with .... weapons of mass destruction that could be launched in 45 minutes seconds (which in the end turned out not to exist).
brilliant.
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Qcmbr
I too find the current series awful...
What I used to like in the old Dr Who:
1/ 4 part stories - allowed much better character and story creation.
2/ Tom Baker was really nuts - brilliant - new Doctor actually seems sane but acting nuts - doesn't work for me.
3/ The cliffhangers with the music at the end gave me the chills and made me watch the next week - now its all over in one episode - rubbish (momentary like for the end of the last two part episode.) The whole point about the music is it heralded something spooky and exciting.
4/ Adventures didn't always involve earth
What I dislike:
1/ The dialogue is crap (it always was) but this time they are pretending to speek about feelings and stuff which was always implied previously - not discussed at length.
2/ CGI graphics - Dr Who was more believable because of the otherworldy feel of the monsters (a bit like the old Star wars v the new far weaker cgi fueled star wars.)
3/ The tardis - Dr Who was running around making it work with a hammer...?????????
4/ The new assistant has three modes: Running around with an idiotic , I've just made luv, smile on her face , puzzled farawy, navel gaze as her single brain cell vainly tries to comprehend her mobile phone, puppy dog gazing at the Doctor who is clearly an ugly wierdo alien - however since her last marriage I can't blame her on that. -
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Theological question: When did God create the Devil if...
by logansrun inst. augustine speculated that god exists outside of time.
this viewpoint would seem to make sense in our modern understanding of physics since time is dependent upon space; time is not an absolute, and it is not linear.
god, according to augustine and other theologians, sees all of history as one eternal present moment.
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OK LDS answer:
Satan, Jesus, God the Father and us - all the same - all 'intelligences' and are not created - have existed eternally. We become a family in heaven at some point before the earth was created with God as our father. This universe teams with life and intelligences going through the same process we are (spiritual eternal beings becoming a living soul ie have a physical body, this body and life are short term finally ending with a resurrection with the long term joining of body and spirit - eternal life.) Some intelligences disagree with this pattern - in our case we know of Lucifer doing this and 1/3 of all the intelligences in heaven are then cast out - this means they don't get a body. Satan is Lucifer's new name and so you could count this point as the time when Satan was created but it was a self creation rather than God doing it.
This rebellion in heaven happended before the creation of the earth - not 1914 in LDS thinking. -
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What has been your most spiritual experience?
by Qcmbr inok highly loaded question but i'd like to know!
i come from the viewpoint that we are spiritual beings having mortal experiences ergo we are having constant spiritual experience that maybe makes it seem commonplace..i'd be interested if anyone else has noticed spiritual events happening?
i'll shoot first: .
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As my last post before I go to bed:
Without getting too soppy my most 'spiritual' feelings are about my family - sometimes I just go and look at my little baby sleeping and I well up inside.
Other things that give me that feeling inside:
Great architecture (like a cathedral), nature (especially in summer), absolute silence (standing on a cliff with no one else around), some music (Queen - who wants to live forever, music from the film The Mission etc..), deep religious discussions about life, great movies and stories (Field of Dreams means something to me because of my (lack of) relationship with my father), patriotism and love of my country and the good things it stands for, seeing the marvel of nature and how simple yet beautiful it is. -
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What has been your most spiritual experience?
by Qcmbr inok highly loaded question but i'd like to know!
i come from the viewpoint that we are spiritual beings having mortal experiences ergo we are having constant spiritual experience that maybe makes it seem commonplace..i'd be interested if anyone else has noticed spiritual events happening?
i'll shoot first: .
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Qcmbr
I think thats part of the point of this post - everyone has their own 'spiritual' definition - none of which are right or wrong.
To me spiritual is that part of me that recognises the world around me and doesn't really have words to describe it - that moment of awe, silent contemplation, appreciation, excitement, hope, gladness etc...experienced in a variety of situations. -
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A question for Christians who do not believe in evolution (Not an argument)
by logansrun ini have a question for anyone who is both christian and does not believe in evolution (natural selection, darwinian paradigm, call it what you will):.
how do you feel about christians who do believe in evolutionary theory?
keeping in mind that one of the great modern christian apologists, c.s.
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Qcmbr
As far as I'm aware God must use evolutionary processes at least after the flood (and therefore why not before) since there is no record of a second creation and certainly not enough room in the ark for even a small percentage of creatures - there aren't even enough people on the ark as traditionally understood to repopulate all the human races (including giants like Goliath)
What I do believe in however is that God does play with genetics and that it doesn't happen by chance - I think genetics is very like a clever computer code that is designed to adapt to give life its best chance.
Not a topic change but interesting nonetheless - evolution IMHO cannot account for things like:
Music appreciation, recognition of beauty, fashion, art, romantic love, contemplation of the past and future, ethics, philosophy, poetry, religion, intuition, prophecy (I have had some very precient dreams), stories, writing and chopsticks. -
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What has been your most spiritual experience?
by Qcmbr inok highly loaded question but i'd like to know!
i come from the viewpoint that we are spiritual beings having mortal experiences ergo we are having constant spiritual experience that maybe makes it seem commonplace..i'd be interested if anyone else has noticed spiritual events happening?
i'll shoot first: .
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I know what your saying about emotion..that's kinda one of the things I was hinting at when I said to me the part of me that can express emotion seems to be somehow 'spiritual' - I was at a museum today and I was looking at the pictures of people from 100 years ago and I felt such an emotional / spiritual / physical response to walking where they walked, touching bricks they had laid, just this weight of history in all its normal yet noble way.. I think it reset so many of my inner feelings - like a good wholesome sweep out.
Maybe we look to far away for those spiritual feelings , dress things up in too much mystical significance, allow others to dress them up in too many irrelevant words. I think I like this definition of spirituality.