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  Atheists, what is the best argument FOR God?

  by bohm in

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  there are no convincing arguments for god, but some are worse than others.

  i thought it would be interesting to see what people consider the best (of the bad) arguments for god?.

  in my oppinion it is the fine-tuning argument from cosmology.

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  Given sufficient computing power we should be able to create a simulation with autonomous ai actors that perceive it as real. If one simulation can be created then many will. The number of simulations will exceed the original meaning it is probale that we are a simulation...
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  Dawkins Chapter 2 - Dogs, Cows and Cabbages

  by KateWild in

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  i have to say, i am afraid i found this chapter labourious to read in most places.

  imo i felt he just wasn't getting to the point.

  i don't get why dawkins felt the need to teach me all about platoism, essentialism and rabbits.

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  No magic being is everywhere and has all power but is invisible and talks telepathically to people. The evidence for this is the conflicting messages they receive, the lack of useful novel information they present , the lack of congruence with reality and the study of the human brain showing how it can present a convincing perceptual reality at odds with the objective reality using purely chemical and electrical stimuli. Santa (the Coca Cola product ) is based upon a potentially real historical person which makes him more likely than any religious god conceived thousands of years ago by primitive cultures.
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  Dawkins Chapter 2 - Dogs, Cows and Cabbages

  by KateWild in

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  i have to say, i am afraid i found this chapter labourious to read in most places.

  imo i felt he just wasn't getting to the point.

  i don't get why dawkins felt the need to teach me all about platoism, essentialism and rabbits.

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  Saint Nicholas

  A 13th-century Egyptian depiction of St. Nicholas fromSaint Catherine's Monastery, Sinai

  Saint Nicholas of Myra was a 4th-century Greek Christian bishop of Myra (now Demre) in Lycia, a province of the Byzantine Anatolia, now inTurkey. Nicholas was famous for his generous gifts to the poor, in particular presenting the three impoverished daughters of a pious Christian withdowries so that they would not have to become prostitutes. [7] He was very religious from an early age and devoted his life entirely to Christianity. In continental Europe (more precisely the Netherlands, Belgium, Austria and Germany) he is usually portrayed as a bearded bishop in canonical robes.
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  Dawkins Chapter 2 - Dogs, Cows and Cabbages

  by KateWild in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have to say, i am afraid i found this chapter labourious to read in most places.

  imo i felt he just wasn't getting to the point.

  i don't get why dawkins felt the need to teach me all about platoism, essentialism and rabbits.

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  tec - Shrugs. I've been you for 30 odd years and I can understand why you speak as you do and why you are left apologising for a lack of physical evidence. When you have something real (physical) we can discuss further, meanwhile all the phenomenom you ascribe to your supernatural being science will explain or has already explained.
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  Dawkins Chapter 2 - Dogs, Cows and Cabbages

  by KateWild in

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  2. beliefs

  i have to say, i am afraid i found this chapter labourious to read in most places.

  imo i felt he just wasn't getting to the point.

  i don't get why dawkins felt the need to teach me all about platoism, essentialism and rabbits.

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  Nothing in scientific enquiry has ever found anything remotely resembling this magical entity labelled 'spirit'. Scientific discovery has revealed how much of our consciousness is constructed (and also why when the brain is damaged our consciousness can also be modified.) Simple science is explaining that experience most commonly associated with the 'spirit' - consciousness. It is in conflict with your non-explanatory, unscientific faith based assertion that there is a mystical substance residing inside the structure of the body. No electron scanning microscope has ever found anything like this thing you made up.

  Good example tec!
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  Dawkins Chapter 2 - Dogs, Cows and Cabbages

  by KateWild in

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  2. beliefs

  i have to say, i am afraid i found this chapter labourious to read in most places.

  imo i felt he just wasn't getting to the point.

  i don't get why dawkins felt the need to teach me all about platoism, essentialism and rabbits.

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  Kate - I was talking to tec.
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  Dawkins Chapter 2 - Dogs, Cows and Cabbages

  by KateWild in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have to say, i am afraid i found this chapter labourious to read in most places.

  imo i felt he just wasn't getting to the point.

  i don't get why dawkins felt the need to teach me all about platoism, essentialism and rabbits.

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  tec - You stated elsewhere sentiments agreeing that the spirit resides in the bones and that when you die your spirit sleeps within those bones. In discussion about what happens when bones get destroyed you shared a revelation regarding the preservation of the spirit in baby teeth. I expect you will elaborate and correct this but it will serve the point.

  Simple chemistry tells us that biological remains including baby teeth rarely last very long in geological scales and that is one reason why old ones are so hard to find. It is easy to show that many people no longer have any calcium or enamel remains hence that your belief in the state of the spirit and bones post death is wrong.
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  Dawkins Chapter 2 - Dogs, Cows and Cabbages

  by KateWild in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have to say, i am afraid i found this chapter labourious to read in most places.

  imo i felt he just wasn't getting to the point.

  i don't get why dawkins felt the need to teach me all about platoism, essentialism and rabbits.

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  Kate - I just read what you posted. If that wasn't what you meant then at least recognise why I would think you just said your motivation in studying science was based upon your faith in god. Faith is the exact opposite of what you described - faith does not fit into the cycle from a scientific POV. Faith posits some knowledge gained despite a lack of evidence and held in the face of conflicting information.
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  Dawkins Chapter 2 - Dogs, Cows and Cabbages

  by KateWild in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have to say, i am afraid i found this chapter labourious to read in most places.

  imo i felt he just wasn't getting to the point.

  i don't get why dawkins felt the need to teach me all about platoism, essentialism and rabbits.

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  If your faith is in something in contravention of a scientific fact it is in conflict 'truthfully'. Many of your faith based assertions are in conflict with scientific understanding. You are not in agreement with much of what science has discovered.
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  Dawkins Chapter 2 - Dogs, Cows and Cabbages

  by KateWild in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have to say, i am afraid i found this chapter labourious to read in most places.

  imo i felt he just wasn't getting to the point.

  i don't get why dawkins felt the need to teach me all about platoism, essentialism and rabbits.

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  " I want to understand particle physics better, I feel it draws me closer to God as a creator and that is my motive to investigate science.""