I just got an email from someone who played a really formative part of my life who's since left the LDS church (my rose tinted spectacles) and it really hurts. This is why I don't go to ex-LDS sites. Its wierd - a lot of you as posters are at the other end of the tunnel - having left/escaped - but it sure as heck feels gut wrenching when your still 'in' and someone you care about leaves. I guess religions have the power to bind us much closer to people emotionally and relationship wise (and I think that's a great aspect of religion whatever else people may criticise about it) - where the challenge is when that bond is broken -its a little bit like a mini death I think. Ah well I'm off to mope around the house for a bit:(
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36Crap that hurts! Talking to an ex-LDS
by Qcmbr ini just got an email from someone who played a really formative part of my life who's since left the lds church (my rose tinted spectacles) and it really hurts.
this is why i don't go to ex-lds sites.
its wierd - a lot of you as posters are at the other end of the tunnel - having left/escaped - but it sure as heck feels gut wrenching when your still 'in' and someone you care about leaves.
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Book Of Mormon, Priesthood Executive Committee, Family Home Evening
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Oh my.....proof of evolution at last
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hurray someone else who can speak the lingo ! I think its fascinating and fun how each church has its own buzz words and it can be quite a barrier to other ppl. Its good to know that if I say:
FHE, BOM, PEC and 'with every fibre of my being' someone at least will know what the jello with everything I'm talking about!
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Sometimes I feel sooo lonely :)
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The evidence AGAINST evolution
by AlmostAtheist inno, sorry, i won't be providing any.
this is a thread for those that have done some research and concluded that evolution is not how various species came to exist.. have you done the research?
do you believe that species exist as a result of god's direct creation?
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Qcmbr
I believe in creation by God but I believe the traditional creation story is a bad reading of a flawed record (ie Genesis). With one thought in mind (we will become godlike and will one day possess the ability to create a genesis project on barren planets) I think it is fairly easy to see how an intelligent being could create life. What is missing from teh creation story is how it was done and guided evolution is just as good a way to do it as any other. What makes the biblical creation for me is that it was a spiritual creation first (everything made and living without being physical) and then a physical creation on the Seventh day - if you don't believe me check out Genesis - there are two stages to creation. What we need God for is not to make the bodies (though he built the DNA code to do it) but to make the souls. As for accidental evolution this is why I cannot believe it happens unguided: 1/ Irreducible complexity - the knee, the eye, the bombadier beetle etc.. 2/ Most complex organisms have longest lifespans (should be least evolved) 3/ Fossil record is complete in time slices - there are huge gaps in the record and no links between the layers. 4/ Thermodynamics suggestes order must degrade into disorder - life works exactly opposite to that law. 5/ Evolution requires extreme environmental pressure to work and the world just isn't pressured enough (IE everything is in absolute harmony right now so evoltion should slow down and almost stop - most of the earths history has been calm and normal - that's why they have to point to asteroids etc to wipe out large numbers of species.) 6/ Mutation is never beneficial - can anyone think of a beneficial human mutation in the last 2000 years of recorded history? Nature has had trillions of chances to evolve a better human in the last 2000 years. 7/ The simplest cell is way too complex to be random - evolution cannot start life its like trying to shake a jigsaw puzzle into place inside its box - theoretically a sound idea until you realise the jigsaw is too big for the box. Th esimplest cell is more complex than a car and you'd never be able to shake together bits of oil , metal and pink fluffy dice together and ever get a car out of it - hang on maybe you could get a trabant hehe
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Battle Star Galatica
by zev inthe season finali (sp?
) of one of the greatest shows ever to hit the tv.
and i don't say that lightly.
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HeHe I've seen all the episodes - for the first time in this universe we brits got to see it first. I can honestly say it bums me out that we have to wait for eveything over here. I wont spoil it but for everyone but I have to say it ends on a really naff note. I do love it however and I'm glad they're on making the second season.
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Ccmbr: Question!!!1
by yesidid in.
sometime ago i saw a website that gave most of the churches with a continuous update of their increases etc.. i believe it is a mormon site.
yesidid
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That's a cool website apart from the fact it points out how crap we're doing hehe.
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When do people sleep - brilliant background wallpaper!!!!
by Qcmbr in.
ever feel cheesed because you post and nobody seems to be on - or you post a topic of interest to natioanls from another country but they don't reply!!!.
have a look at this program it is soooo cool for checking when everyone else is asleep or awake.. http://www.sofotex.com/earthwatcher-download_l8803.html.
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Thanks:)
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When do people sleep - brilliant background wallpaper!!!!
by Qcmbr in.
ever feel cheesed because you post and nobody seems to be on - or you post a topic of interest to natioanls from another country but they don't reply!!!.
have a look at this program it is soooo cool for checking when everyone else is asleep or awake.. http://www.sofotex.com/earthwatcher-download_l8803.html.
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Ever feel cheesed because you post and nobody seems to be on - or you post a topic of interest to natioanls from another country but they don't reply!!!
Have a look at this program it is soooo cool for checking when everyone else is asleep or awake.