Sab - To be fair I probably wound EP up because he was asking a serious question and you lured me into larking about with your Death Star siren call.
Sorry EP!
hello everyone.... i would honestly like to share why i come to this site when i am able to.. i too, like many here spent my whole life inside the wt along with my husband who was born in.
(i was 6) we have raised three wonderful sons now 27, 23, 21 who the youngest was almost 7 when we left and we were disfellowshipped.
(for so-called apostacy of course)and since then all of us partake of the christ by eating and drinking the manna and his blood.
Sab - To be fair I probably wound EP up because he was asking a serious question and you lured me into larking about with your Death Star siren call.
Sorry EP!
hello everyone.... i would honestly like to share why i come to this site when i am able to.. i too, like many here spent my whole life inside the wt along with my husband who was born in.
(i was 6) we have raised three wonderful sons now 27, 23, 21 who the youngest was almost 7 when we left and we were disfellowshipped.
(for so-called apostacy of course)and since then all of us partake of the christ by eating and drinking the manna and his blood.
Sab - I do often find myself in a fight and it a definite part of my online experience and yet normally its caused by vigorosly examining ideas. You'll hopefully have noticed that I haven't said anything personal here and I even went so far as to have a bit of fun with you - (and you ignored it you cad). The OP struck me as so familiar and I paused for a moment to wonder why. Then it hit me - its exactly how I used to be as a missionary. I'd bounce up to someones door and proceed to invite them to my truth. I sat and pondered that for a moment and asked myself if there was anything different between all the believers I'd ever met (and been). Hence my first post. It could have been an opportunity for you to go deep and think about what I said. You see no one thinks they are wrong. Everyone is selling the truth (sure the details are tweaked but its always the absolute 'truth') and the difference isn't really the product, its simply the methodolgy. The ONLY reason why people don't see the obvious truth being sold is because they don't use the correct methodology. Get that right and Jesus will be your Lord, Krishna will hear you and Thor will cast down his thunderbolt for you.
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The next thing I noticed is the misapplication of descriptive analogies to describe something that should be absolutely without need of a metaphor. As a mormon missionary I would say things like 'As the spirit of God rests upon you you will begin to feel the love of god burning within you, your testimony will grow.' This sentence is deliberately evasive in that it doesn't actually describe any mechanisms and allows the imagination to fill in the gap so that an idea of 'love ..burning' can be sufficiently manipulated to mean pretty much anything that approximates the desired result (group identification.) As soon as someone said something to Elder Qcmbr like 'I feel really good when I read the Book of Mormon' I'd be all over that and that would remind them that I'd told them about this spirit of God that would rest on them etc. In short religious language is ambiguous , like cold reading, so that post event it can be applied to the widest possible set of matching outcomes.
Breathe.
The next thought was that when anyone is selling their truth its almost always accompanied with attestations to it being wonderful, life enriching etc. Everyone who has joined the group is encouraged to present to the outside world the same sales smile and breathless excitement, everyone is positively bubbling over with excitement. JWs do it on the door even though as so many have candidly shared here that hides an inner disparity (of course that won't refer to any believers posting here who of course are full of the spirit and need to let you know how much everyone else is missing - its a rare believer who turns up and simply posts 'today is pretty carp' .)
Scratch.
And finally - it kinda just looks like once again its a primeval need to split people into similar groupings. If I came on here as a seperate poster (and didn't get caught by my ip address) and posted as a believer and shared all my LDS feelings (i.e. where I felt the spirit, it felt invigorating and full of love) without alluding to my actual LDS beliefs but simply my god belief and its positive effects I would be high fived by such posters as FHN, Snowbird, justmom, Mouthy etc. not because I shared their actual core belief but because I was in the 'believer' camp. In fact I still have a PM from a believer ages ago thanking me for sticking up for God - it didn't matter that had she thought about it I was, as a Mormon, probably the evil apostate in all other circumstances. In short its which general side you cheer for rather than thevalidity of the belief that is most important.
Can we go back to Star Wars ? Much more fun.
since some believe that watctower regularly observes this site,did you ever know of a watchtower double agent here?.
lol
since some believe that watctower regularly observes this site,did you ever know of a watchtower double agent here?.
I suspect a spy might have a post count of zero.
hello everyone.... i would honestly like to share why i come to this site when i am able to.. i too, like many here spent my whole life inside the wt along with my husband who was born in.
(i was 6) we have raised three wonderful sons now 27, 23, 21 who the youngest was almost 7 when we left and we were disfellowshipped.
(for so-called apostacy of course)and since then all of us partake of the christ by eating and drinking the manna and his blood.
oops EP - I'm still planking about.
hello everyone.... i would honestly like to share why i come to this site when i am able to.. i too, like many here spent my whole life inside the wt along with my husband who was born in.
(i was 6) we have raised three wonderful sons now 27, 23, 21 who the youngest was almost 7 when we left and we were disfellowshipped.
(for so-called apostacy of course)and since then all of us partake of the christ by eating and drinking the manna and his blood.
hello everyone.... i would honestly like to share why i come to this site when i am able to.. i too, like many here spent my whole life inside the wt along with my husband who was born in.
(i was 6) we have raised three wonderful sons now 27, 23, 21 who the youngest was almost 7 when we left and we were disfellowshipped.
(for so-called apostacy of course)and since then all of us partake of the christ by eating and drinking the manna and his blood.
Sorry EP - they found my unshielded thermal exhaust port
hello everyone.... i would honestly like to share why i come to this site when i am able to.. i too, like many here spent my whole life inside the wt along with my husband who was born in.
(i was 6) we have raised three wonderful sons now 27, 23, 21 who the youngest was almost 7 when we left and we were disfellowshipped.
(for so-called apostacy of course)and since then all of us partake of the christ by eating and drinking the manna and his blood.
hello everyone.... i would honestly like to share why i come to this site when i am able to.. i too, like many here spent my whole life inside the wt along with my husband who was born in.
(i was 6) we have raised three wonderful sons now 27, 23, 21 who the youngest was almost 7 when we left and we were disfellowshipped.
(for so-called apostacy of course)and since then all of us partake of the christ by eating and drinking the manna and his blood.
Messerschmidt - the truth on offer. Everyone has the truth. No one offers a lie . No one says I have discovered a lie come and believe it with me. Again - Everyone has truth. Anyone who accepts your truth gets to be in your clan and together your lives are unbelievably enriched by it. Everyone who disagrees is objectified as other. Everyone who apostatises at some future point is objectified as hated outcast.
hello everyone.... i would honestly like to share why i come to this site when i am able to.. i too, like many here spent my whole life inside the wt along with my husband who was born in.
(i was 6) we have raised three wonderful sons now 27, 23, 21 who the youngest was almost 7 when we left and we were disfellowshipped.
(for so-called apostacy of course)and since then all of us partake of the christ by eating and drinking the manna and his blood.
Step 4: Objectify anyone who is not supportive and give name e.g. 'heathen,'mob' Create them and us group mentality.