Posts by bboyneko

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finding friends outside the Borg - a Scary thought

by lydia in

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has anyone else found that the teaching of the "outside world" being a "bad association" limits your involvement and ability to make new freinds?.

if so how have you overcome this and any suggestions to helping those suffering from these feelings?.

lydia

bboyneko

You guys are making far too much of the boohoo thing, re-read the paragraph in question carefully:

I'm not trying to belittle anything anyone has been through but EVERYONE, in my experience, has had some awful thing or other happen to them throughout their life. Maybe a mindset less 'boohoo, i have been screwed over and noone other than a JW could possibly understand my pain' and more of 'I, like many others in the world, have had a uniquely horrifying experience that i will share with those who show interest and possibly educate someone to the horror that can occur due to being a JW to those who might otherwise remain ignorant' would be a better mindset.

I think it was sensitive and tactful, it's a statement that says: Self-pity won't get you anywhere, but the pain you suffered can help others. She was simply saying we need to think outwardly instead of inwardly. Talking to others and helping others is a way to heal. Self-pity is a path to despair and depression. Nowhere does she say that what we suffered is not a real pain or traumatizing. She aknoledges that it was awful BUT that we need to realize we are NOT the only ones who have suffered and others have suffered worse. In light of that fact, self-pity is almost moot. It's ok to cry about bad experiences of course, but there is such as a thing as too much. We will always be sad about the lost friends, lost years and mean things we did as a JW. But her post asks us to do something positive with our experience and not just hang out here forever, yes, boohooing, when we could be hanging out here boohooing AND helping others in some manner. Or else was our suffering for nothing? Maybe we as JW's need to more sensitive to NON JW's who are trying to reach out and help. The general reaction I get when I tell people about my JW past is 'so what?' most people dont care. So when you find a non-JW who does care its a relativley rare thing and the last thing we need to do is bite her head off.

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Help! Raccoons!

by expatbrit in

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the other evening when i put the garbage out, i got that creepy "i'm being watched" feeling.. elders?

i thought, looking around in a discreetly paranoid fashion.. nope.

it wasn't elders.

bboyneko

Raccoons are the monkeys of the civilized world. They have oposable thumbs and everything. They will fish out crayfish from a river, take them to a nice flat rock and use small rocks to crack their shells open and eat them. Yup, they use tools. THey are real cute and very smart.

the panda bear was thought to belong to the same family as racoons at one time.

Facts:
Jet black facial mask, 5 to 7 rings on bushy tail

“Human-like” paws

Nose to tail length from 60 to 82 centimeters

Weighs between 4.5 and 11.5 kilograms

latin name:Procyon lotor

MEANING OF NAME: Procyon (before dog) refers to the ancestral stock of dogs. Lotor (washer) refers to the raccoons’ habit of washing their food in water prior to eating. This belief is in fact a popular misconception.

baby raccoon cry of distress is very similar to the cry of a human baby. Homeowners often complain about sleepless nights as a result of baby raccoon chattering directly above the master bedroom. The mother raccoon being nocturnal, prefers this location, as it is the quietest part of the house during daytime.

aaaaaaawwwwwww

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Has the WTS ever made a prediction that came true?

by Leander in

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this morning a thought occured to me "has the society ever made a prediction or prophecy that has come true"?.

most of us are familiar with the prophecies or dates the wts has emphasized in the past.

of course all of those predictions never proved to be accurate so the question is, "if this is god's prophetic organization where is the proof"?.

bboyneko

Being a JW you are in adolescent-dependent relationship with the society..do as we say while under our roof or off you go to the cold heartless world. When you leave or start to leave you still have a childish mentality in your head as to how relationships go, an almost bratty, snobby attitude as well. Hopefully they will grow out of it. Mud slinging is a waste of mud and slings.
-Dan

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Worthless without Watchtower

by joelbear in

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i see so many posts here saying that jehovah's witnesses are brain dead.

i just don't think that is the case.

i think its worse than that.

bboyneko

Joelbear ever watch THE MATRIX?

In it they are attacked by braindead cops and others who they were just like at one point, enslaved in a mass collective they wernt even aware exsisted. But because they are still braindead, they must fight them and sometimes kill them.

Im not saying kill JW's, im saying that while a JW is still a JW, you must fight back and even be mean to them. Until they up and write their DA letter you gotta be defensive against those who hate who you are and wish you dead.
-Dan

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Raymond Franz Never A Member of GB/Fathers Email

by ladonna in

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yep, that's right!!.

i called my mother tonight to say a friendly hello.

you guessed it.

bboyneko

also many JW cannot fathom a governing body member going 'apostate' so they say either
1) he was never a gb member
2) he became gay and thats why he left
3) it was deeemins

3) is the most popular response

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finding friends outside the Borg - a Scary thought

by lydia in

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has anyone else found that the teaching of the "outside world" being a "bad association" limits your involvement and ability to make new freinds?.

if so how have you overcome this and any suggestions to helping those suffering from these feelings?.

lydia

bboyneko

Xena, you'll never make friends with such a hostile attitude.... I think bgurl's point was that instead of directing so much energy towards self-pity we can help other people. I registered myself at allexperts.com as an expert on JW matters. I get about 3-4 emails a week from sincere people asking detailed and thought-provoking questions about the JW faith. Most are NOT JW but people outside needing information because a loved one is in it or about to be in it. Like Bgurl said, we are in a very unique situation where we can help many others avoid the pain we have suffered.

At my old University they had speakers who would talk about the dangers of cults (cults like the 'boston movement' International Church of Christ loved recruiting new zombies from Universities, especially large universities where incoming freshman might feel lonley and vulnerable) Any one of could contribute to society in that manner.

The wisest man on earth is the man who has made the most mistakes.

As for making friends, I was friendless for a while too..I left at 18 so it wasn't as bad for me I think. But I gained alot of friends from college, from my breakdancing hobby and from doing extra work for movies.

There are a lot of weird, interesting acitivties that will gain you cool friends. Ever heard of a airline courier? YOu get to travel to places like europe and exotic islands for either free or like $50 round trip. The catch? Your hired by companies and private citizens who need something hand-delivered to another area FAST and it is apparantly cheaper to ship heavy items by using your luggage space as a passenger than using fedex or other worldwide delivery services. So the catch is you can only take carry-on luggage.

One of my weird jobs is Theatre Open Checking (www.rapidchek.com) where I get paid to watch movies. Its good money, its on the weekends and damnit, free movies and getting paid for it! that rocks! You work for the various movie studios like warner brothers and new line cinema. You work 100% remotely, they gfedex you the assigments, you go and do them then mail them back, 4 weeks later presto a nice paycheck. Just working like 3-4 hours a weekend I get an extra $6,000-$10,000 a year from that job. During the summer you can make as much as $2,000 a month. You meet a lot of fun people and it's just fun in general.

Another weird activity that pays well is being a movie extra. Depending on where you live there can be a large demand for extras. Your start-up cost is about $15 to register with a casting company and then you get calls asking if you are available to be an extra on a tv show, commercial or film. It pays $100 a day and all the free meals you can eat, and you get to meet the stars. Go to www.soyouwanna.com and look up being an extra for more detailed info.

Hobbies in general are the best way to meet peeps with similair interests. Take up archery, a martial art, squirrel juggling, anything you ahve always wanted to try. Many local community centers offer very affordable programs. For example my local CC offers tai chi for only $50 a month.

But in general, youll find that good, close friends are hard to come by and your lucky to have more than one in your life. Treasure real, unconditional friendship wherever you may find it.

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being witnesses

by speffot in

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dont get me wrong, i dont mean to sound critical or rude, but how can some of you say you are witnesses but not attend meetings and stuff...or go witnessing?

its what jehovah says to do, so how can u not do what jehovah says, but yet call yourself a jehovahs witness??

?

bboyneko

dont get me wrong, i dont mean to sound critical or rude, but how can some of you say you are witnesses but not attend meetings and stuff...or go witnessing? its what jehovah says to do, so how can u not do what jehovah says, but yet call yourself a jehovahs witness???

Correction, JEHOVAH NEVER SAID TO ATTEND MEETINGS... the bible simply says to associate with like-minded ones..you'll remember that early christians met in homes and ate a meal together. Nothing like the dry. formal ritual we have now. Ok, so if Jehvoahs never said that, who did? The governing body? IS what they say the same as if God said it? Think about that, and also this quote from an essay I love:

Why does fundamentalism have such a broad appeal? Besides the appeal to vanity ('join us and you can be one of God's chosen'), and its appeal to fear ('you can't be saved without us'), its broad appeal is because it offers an easy way -- a fundamentalist need not think deeply about doctrine or be highly educated in it; as one Mormon leader once said to an audience of university students, "Don't think for yourself. The thinking has already been done." If you surrender your right to think for yourself and just do as the leader asks, the fundamentalist promises you a sure ticket into heaven. What could be easier?

Your motivation in being a witness: fear and selfishness and pride.

-Dan

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Raymond Franz Never A Member of GB/Fathers Email

by ladonna in

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yep, that's right!!.

i called my mother tonight to say a friendly hello.

you guessed it.

bboyneko

As for denying Raymond Franz was ever a JW, or denying he was in the GB, that's also normal. I have got many, many letters during the last 8 years telling me that.

I thought that certain books throughout the years list the governing body members? Also if he wasn't a governing body member, why hasnt the WTBTS sued? If he is lying they would win for slander and misrepresentation and other stuff. Why allow someone to have not one, but TWO long detailed books that claim he was a governing body member when he wasnt? Clearly your mom hasnt thught this out. JW's never like using logic it's "evil"
-Dan

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