Posts by bboynekosgirlfriend

This topic has been beaten to death. I'm sorry you don't beleive and you're sorry that i'm dilusional so lets leave it at that and MOVE ON ALREADY! The fact is noone OWES you or any one else any proof. Again, noone is on trial. This whole thing was just to bring lite to an interesting topic. Weather you beleive it or not is up to you but it's not up to me to change your mind.

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by funkyderek in

jw
friends

following on from the anybody else had visions?

thread below ( http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=10144&site=3).

i have offered a prize of 50 american dollars or the equivalent in your currency of choice for whoever can guess (or envision or whatever) the contents of a picture i have chosen.. i will be emailing the picture, in password zip format to [email protected] along with unambiguous details of what qualifies as a correct guess.

bboynekosgirlfriend

Ok, you claim to know Norwegian: Bevis at du kan gjøre noe som helst overnaturlig, eller hold for helvete kjeft!

ja jeg forstar deg godt. Nok en inteligent erklæring fra munnen din.
but for those who didn't understand i'll translate the great wisdom of Jan: prove that you can do anything supernatural, or shut the hell up. Quite quaint isn't it?

How come you deleted all arguments from my message, and failed to answer them? Of course, because you cannot answer.
You are a fraud.

Yes...you really are showing people your level of intelligence. I did answer what i felt was pertinant to. I really think you are so worked up you cannot read. i have as of yet not declined any test. Just because i wasn't on the chatboard when one was offered and so i didn't do it is rediculous to hold against me. 'Damn you for not doing a test you were unaware of existing'...ummm

Most of your post was angry babble so i didn't respond as is my right. It is also not my responsability to prove ANYTHING to you. I started here merely sharing my experiences. I am not on trial nor have i commited any crime or i sure don't owe you any proof so get off my back please.

I said: "put up or shut up!" Have a problem with basic English? You don't understand what that expression means?

I'm sorry but WHAT?????? You have NO RIGHT to tell me what to do WHAT SO EVER! Maybe YOU need to go to the psychiatrist. You have some serious control issues. you are nothing to me and i sure won't head your word.

You and bboy have come here with bold claims, and when you are asked for evidence, all we get are wimpy, pathetic excuses. I have no problems understanding or "comprehending" what you are talking about. It is well explained within the realm of human superstition, and that happens to be the area of life where I am highly educated.
You only need to know two areas of human knowledge to explain the alleged supernatural: superstition and fraud.

You comprehend nothing. Your ignorant statements are all the proof needed. You are a controling bully and i reserve every right to ignore your posts if i chose fit. Sorry you don't like it but I control me NOT YOU!

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Remote Viewing

by funkyderek in

jw
friends

following on from the anybody else had visions?

thread below ( http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=10144&site=3).

i have offered a prize of 50 american dollars or the equivalent in your currency of choice for whoever can guess (or envision or whatever) the contents of a picture i have chosen.. i will be emailing the picture, in password zip format to [email protected] along with unambiguous details of what qualifies as a correct guess.

bboynekosgirlfriend

What kind of a hypocrite are you? Derek devised a test. You self-proclained psychics failed, or came up silly excuses to not partake. We only have your words for your assertions you have seen anything outside your own head.

I have shown no hypocrisies. If you READ the posts you'd realise i wasn't on this board posting when derek devised this test or at least unaware of this test. AND you would see that i am trying to make a fair test that will satify both sides of this debate with larc. Read before you post!

And i was refering to test posted here from stargate and such, not those from random people on the board.

I never say beleive but don't call people crazy just because YOU can't comprehend it. How childish is that. 'NU UH. I don't beleive you. you're just dumb'

The only rational conclusion is that you have a problem that should be discussed with your psychiatrist and nobody else.

Not only is this offensive to me but to anyone who DOES have a mental illness. This is an IRATIONAL conclusion based on fear of the unknown. You can't understand it so you label it 'crazy'. Not only that it's hurtful. Just cause your norwegian doesn't give me the right to tell you you need to go to the psychiatrist. It's not your fault you're Norwegian.( by the way i grew up in Norway and speak fluent Norwegain just so i don't get labeled as predjudiced) This was a hurtful comment and not appreciated.

Isn't it a little counter productive to tell me to shut up on a chat board?

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Remote Viewing

by funkyderek in

jw
friends

following on from the anybody else had visions?

thread below ( http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=10144&site=3).

i have offered a prize of 50 american dollars or the equivalent in your currency of choice for whoever can guess (or envision or whatever) the contents of a picture i have chosen.. i will be emailing the picture, in password zip format to [email protected] along with unambiguous details of what qualifies as a correct guess.

bboynekosgirlfriend

I don't care what classes you took in HS or what the dictionary definitions are (which are usually laughable when it comes to scientific terms) - you are mistaken.

If i can't rely on the dictionary to tell me what words mean i'm screwed. But i like how you just disregard an authoroty that doesn't agree with your opinion of it.

There is probably no way for me to help you see what science really is all about if you don't have the desire to learn about it, but it would be more honest for you to just accept that you are in ignorant bliss of the process and leave it at that.

I used to beleive that science was complete truth and infabale until i realised it's all theory based and they constantly change their minds on their discoveries. I am in no way ignorant of science but i'm not going to go into it anymore. you beleive science is one thing i beleive it's another. Deal with it.

Anti-intellectualism is the mindset that many of us came out of from the JW's and it irks me very much.

I have never been a jehovas witness so i know little of their or your mindset regarding this. I'm sorry their mindset irks you though.

You may see science as a fumbling in the dark,
but I see it as the ONLY self correcting human endeaver for gaining knowledge ever created. If you have another system that works better, please let us all know - we are on the edge of our seats!

It is arrogant to assume that science has accounted for all phenomena, that there is no room for anything new. If the history of scientific discoveries has taught us anything, it is that we constantly discover new things. It was once thought impossible to slow down light to 30 miles per hour, yet this was done in a lab. It was once assumed that as computers got more and more powerful, they would become larger and larger. There is the famouse example of a scientists who calculated that as the human species grew within cities, the amount of manure from horses would become umanaganable. This was of course because he did not forsee the invention and wide use of automobiles. In science it is important to remain humble and relaize that there is much to be discovered, especially about the mysteries of the human brain and it's capabilities.

I never stated that science hasn't done great things.I am very appreciative of it but i don't think it is the end all of knowledge.

I still cannot comprehend how my drawing a picture that i have NEVER seen that someone has picked for me how can my brain be fooling me?!?!! waht i just THINK i see myslef drawing the EXACT picture? Really the drawing doesn't exhist. Sorry..i can't see it. And every shred of evidence i give drawing next to pictures or whatever won't convince you. You will always say that someone somehow gave me clues or i peeked or some other lame disproving method. There no way to satisfy you. There'll always be some excuse as to why it worked this time or that time. Again i can't ever prove to you it works and you can't ever prove to me it doesn't. But i have evidence and you have nothing except your sceptesism.

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Remote Viewing

by funkyderek in

jw
friends

following on from the anybody else had visions?

thread below ( http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=10144&site=3).

i have offered a prize of 50 american dollars or the equivalent in your currency of choice for whoever can guess (or envision or whatever) the contents of a picture i have chosen.. i will be emailing the picture, in password zip format to [email protected] along with unambiguous details of what qualifies as a correct guess.

bboynekosgirlfriend

You said that science is only "theoretical knowledge." Wrong. Theories are used to explain a large number of well established facts. If science "confuses" you, you should take a basic class in chemistry and physics.

Um...that was directly from, the dictionary:

sci·ence (sns)
n.
The observation, identification, description, experimental investigation, and theoretical explanation of phenomena.

As for the later part of your statement don't worry i was taking college science classes in highschool so i'm good. And yet i still find science to be imperfect and condracdictory so go figure. I am in agreement that science is far from black and white. it's a bunch of people fumbling around in the dark finding a light switch here and there. I admire them cause i won't do it.

You said there is "no way to test these purported psychic abilities". Wrong again. Any ability can be tested. Your example of computer programing abilities and a doctor is an especially weak one. Programming abilities are tested all the time. There are at least 20 validated studies that have tested this ability. Obviously, not by medical doctors.

i think you completely missed the point. not once did i maintain that there were no tests for programming!?!?! My point was simply that you can't have someone making a test for something they have no expertese in as it makes for an unfare test. You wouldn't ask an english teacher to write problems for a math book would you?

And I DON'T beleive any ability can be tested until it is understood.
How can you test hdusahruerbf if you don't know what hdusahruerbf is?

magic beans give me gas but thanks anyway.

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Remote Viewing

by funkyderek in

jw
friends

following on from the anybody else had visions?

thread below ( http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=10144&site=3).

i have offered a prize of 50 american dollars or the equivalent in your currency of choice for whoever can guess (or envision or whatever) the contents of a picture i have chosen.. i will be emailing the picture, in password zip format to [email protected] along with unambiguous details of what qualifies as a correct guess.

bboynekosgirlfriend

People used to believe a whole lot of weird things that science later showed had no backing. People believed that bleeding helped cure people. Science showed that this did not help, but actually harmed many people.

Then why do they still use leech therapy in some cases today? I thought that was controlled bleeding used to 'reduce tissue congestion in areas where arterial input is maintained but venous return is severely compromised...leech therapy has been used successfully as adjunct therapy following cosmetic or reconstructive surgery, reimplantation surgery such as digit reattachment, breast surgery, scalp avulsions, skin graft procedures and in the treatment of periorbital hematomas.'

science:Knowledge, especially that gained through experience.
yay..so i have science on this subject.
But then again science is based on theoretical explenations so it's only theoretical knowledge?....science confuses me.

Otherwise, I'd have to ask you why you don't believe there is an invisible pink unicorn living inside my head. When you understand that, then you will understand where I'm coming from.

Maybe i do. And i never said i didn't understand where you are coming from. I totally see your point of view but it doesn't stop me from stating my opinion.

The conclusion i came to is that is can't be proven OR disproven. Tests seem to be inconclusive either way. I think this is mostly because we just have too little understanding of these abilities AND these abilities are still farely weak in people. There is no fair way to test such abilities. Having someone who has never experienced it make a test is like asking my doctor to give me a test in computer programing. It won't do a good job of proving my programming abilities.

And again i won't label it as psi. To me it's just a skill. I have no idea how it works and i don't claim to. I am also not out there taking advantage of old people and acctually have great reluctance to do it even for my boyfriend because it kind of weirds me out. I hate the people who ridicule this skill with false claims as much as you do but i don't agree with beleiving that EVERYONE claiming these abilities is fraudulent. It's liek saying just because a doctor misdiagnosed an illness that all doctors are incompitent.

But i enjoy your posts. Being made to think is enjoyable. Thankyou.

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Remote Viewing

by funkyderek in

jw
friends

following on from the anybody else had visions?

thread below ( http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=10144&site=3).

i have offered a prize of 50 american dollars or the equivalent in your currency of choice for whoever can guess (or envision or whatever) the contents of a picture i have chosen.. i will be emailing the picture, in password zip format to [email protected] along with unambiguous details of what qualifies as a correct guess.

bboynekosgirlfriend

ok. Just for anyone interested this is how it works for me. I see a bunch of lines and images in my head, i draw them and then check the results against my chosen subject. I never know what i've drawn until i see the subject and then i go OHHHHHHH THAT'S what that was. There was a famous remote viewer(who actually just sign up to do tests 'cause he needed the money while in college and had no previouse ability or notion of ability)who drew 7UP but upside down and had no idea it was 7UP that he saw. I felt the test that started this thread was not fair as he based the amount of money received by what you recognized which is not how it works.

So...ok. It is better if it's a graphic because it's more defined with lines and so on. A 3D object is far more difficult for me and i have yet to acheive it. The only information i would request is where you are located in the world so i have something concrete to target into. Please don't lie. I'm going to spend the next day or so brushing up. I have NEVER attempted such a test so I don't claim that i can do it. It's more for my own curiosity more than anything else and i don't want it to prove or disprove that such a talent exhists so if that is what you are looking to do I really don't want to participate cause that's just way too much pressure. It's an experiment nothing more. Also i would like an impartial middle man that i can send my results to who will look at them with an open mind. The fact is i get alot of 'noise' or interference(some what like tuning into a radio station. You get other stations coming into the background until you manage to tune into the exact frequency) and often times I will have some drawings that have nothing to do with the subject i'm targeting. This usually happens when i first start but i will include everything i come across in this experiment. As stated previously give me a few days to brush up and for you to pick your target and send it to an impartial middle man and i'm good to go.