dear Raph...
perhaps I awake sentimental...but indeed your story is quite present...(jeremiah 44:28-29).
..my trusted beloved...(jeremiah 31:26)...,,,.
love michelle
xoxoxo
stories are perhaps the most important thing we can contribute to others in our short life on planet earth.. mind you, i am not saying that stories are the most important things in our lives, because they are not.
the most important things in our lives are experiences, which are moment-by-moment things.
the best we can do with our own experiences is to tell stories about them, which will never convey the actual living of them.
dear Raph...
perhaps I awake sentimental...but indeed your story is quite present...(jeremiah 44:28-29).
..my trusted beloved...(jeremiah 31:26)...,,,.
love michelle
xoxoxo
paul's letters practically invent christianity.. the gospels trickled in after him.. paul never walked with jesus and yet explains him.. never a quote from the master at all.. yet, paul is such a maven.. if jesus couldn't be bothered to actually reveal what he was all about to his apostles with whom he ate, drank, spoke and slept---why this persecutor, saul?.
the apostles heard every word jesus spoke and were willing to die for him.. paul didn't--yet--miraculously explained every detail of the entire history of god's purpose including his messiah.. .
can anybody provide a non-gimmick answer?.
the apostle paul may not have quoted Jesus too much but his systematic theology is based on the concepts of OT types and he has imbued bible Jesus(for our "literary" education) with the power to defeat any and all anti-types...some may not "see" that as they bite the hand that feeds them.
love michelle
p.s. dear PSacramento...post #7376...would THAT be an idle word?...matthew 12:36...37.
since we've been directed to highlight jehovah's witness subjects on jwn, i'd like to know what things we should be talking about.. perhaps we can discuss how we were affected by the questions on the written review?.
do you have any other meaningful topics you would like to suggest so that we can keep jwn on a jw theme?.
dear minimus...
I really think that Finaly-Free's suggestion: "4. How to conduct a worldwide event from a single streetcorner." has potential if one is willing to take a percentage of responsibility for something so dramatic.
...but certainly one would have to do more than "discuss" the nature and relationship of "angels" to "humans" and in particular that menace to the WTBTS's Christology/theology...michael..
on that note...~national post, a while back~ "early church fathers drew a picture of angels that were personal beings with their own personality and utterly real...but they have been ripped from their biblical and theological roots to emphasize feel-good spirituality over reliable OT wrath and NT gallantry-for example, the angel Michael slaying the dragon in the battle to end all battles. The whole POINT of angels was to shock and send off alarms!!"...
love michelle
i'll start off.. i don't believe anything is divine about bible writings.
i believe there may be some marginal history although not much.
i think alot of folk tales and regional myths are contained in the old testament.
dear PSacramento...
you thought right. the koran is said to be transmitted to mohammed through an angel (allegedly) gabriel...as Heaven's post #3331 stated prior to Terry continuing on:
"Please correct me if I am wrong on this but it is my understanding that the history of the Qur'an starts off with it coming from the angel Gabrielle speaking to the prophet Muhhamad, making him recite it orally to remember it as Muhhamad could not read or write. Later, he orally related the Qur'an to some followers who wrote it down on leaves and bark and paper if available. After Muhhamad's death, Abu Bakr compiled these teachings into the Qur'an. As time went by, differing copies of the Qur'an appeared. This was a huge problem since the Islamic belief is that the word of God could not be corrupted (sound familiar?), and the 3rd caliph after Muhammad's death, Uthman, ordered that all copies of the Qur'an be gathered. They studied each text, and what was deemed as original was compiled to make the Qur'an of today. All of the manuscripts and parchments, bark, and leaves were then destroyed to prevent further corruption. Unfortunately we have no way of performing a textual study to verify the accurateness of today's Qur'an with the original."...
...perhaps Terry couldn't maintain his premise in post #100096 while acknowledging that point.
love michelle
one thing that initially disturbed me when i was questioning the organization was their lack of focus on jesus.
whether you believe in him or not, you have to admit that jws focus mainly on jehovah and his organization.
to the apostles their entire message was about jesus.
no brotherdan, I did not mean to post it in another thread. articulating the "Good News" of God's love just emphasizes the WTBTS's ignorance of who the Love of God is...how CAN they do more than give Jesus a passing mention in their article?
how they CAN blatantly ignore someone that they purport to "gain everlasting life by" and care about is heartbreaking especially for those in the congregations who are looking up to them for guidence...congregants will never know the Love of God as long as it is selfishly with-held from them by prideful wolves who have done nothing more than wrapped THEMSELVES in old red capes.
love michelle
one thing that initially disturbed me when i was questioning the organization was their lack of focus on jesus.
whether you believe in him or not, you have to admit that jws focus mainly on jehovah and his organization.
to the apostles their entire message was about jesus.
THE LOVE OF GOD...generic "love" or Jesus? preaching your own expression of love is a form of deifiying YOUR idea of "love". you are bringing Almighty God down to your level by using what your idea of love is and placing it on the same level as Him.(romans 1:23) for instance you have talked about unconditional love and how Jesus' disciples would be known by the love they have amongst themselves...but do you "see" your idea of love or God's idea of love? God expressed HISLOVE for us by giving us a way out of our sinful, dying condition. Leviticus 18:5 is the Law of Love deut. 27:26, cursed is he who doesn't carry them out!!! God's love is shown in His Hand(isaiah 11:11), Jesus Christ...He gave Him to all of us without condition. ie. we don't have to earn Jesus. He was a gift from God the Father. That is unconditional love. But to draw benefit from the unconditional gift of love we have to reach out and "accept" it. in this respect there is a distinct difference between having faith in the gift(knowing it is there for you) and accepting the gift (apprehending the gift for yourself) accordingly God in His mercy and love gave Jesus but without turning to Jesus you have not apprehended (taken the Hand of [isaiah 11:11])the mercy and love of God. Jesus asks the Father to forgive the people that wanted Him crucified...but is that a forgiveness to salvation or do these people still need to apprehend Jesus to receive the everlasting mercy and love of God?...if they don't then why, why, why did Jesus have to die for our sins if these who can deny Jesus is Lord and Saviour are saved by their own righteousness?...why, why, why, did Jesus send out people to "make disciples" of the nations...if these "nations" who deny Jesus Christ is Lord and Saviour would be saved by their own righteousness anyway? How do these find their way into the kingdom?do they have to enter in by the gate or not?All of us are unworthy to enter into the presence of the Holy God...only the blood of Jesus makes us "worthy" we must make every effort to preach this message not only to show our appreciation for this great gift but because we are in fact fulfilling the second part of the commandment to israel - - love the LORD thy God with all thy heart, with all thy strength and with all thy mind...and love thy neighbour as thyself!...... to say that the UNsaved(including JW's) are partakers of the inheritance because of the way they treat the least of the brethren, are they not saved into the eternal kingdom by their own righteousness?...did the israelites just have to have faith that the copper snake would heal them spiritually and physically or did they have to actually have to physically turn toward the snake and look at it?...they had to turn and look, a "type" of repenting NOT a "type" of faith... how easy it is to show "love" and show "mercy" towards your fellow man without showing THE love of God...you have substituted your love for the love of God in Jesus Christ...that is why the message of God's "love" is life to some and death to some...because while some are willing to accept your unconditional love the same won't accept the unconditional "love" that God sent...Jesus Christ. some people are speaking about the spirit of Christ, and the spirit of peace...where is the name?...in the bible there is the Prince of Peace (a person with a name) indeed the spirit of Christ didn't shed His blood for anyone...the person Jesus shed His blood for your sins...there is a danger leaving off this name...the danger is manifest in that eventually spirit becomes "nameless" and again generic...rev. 2:13 love michelle
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ta-pocketa-pocketa-pocketa-pocketa revved the rolls-royce gas turbine bypass turbofan aero-engine as sir walter mitty prepared for takeoff ... the comely cockpit stewardess, a certain babette de sheer, plied her sumptuous way to sir walter's seated, muscled side and offered him a tall, cold one: a frosty lalique of milk, shaken, not stirred .... .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zva5xmrz48a.
dear CoCo...
you didn't do anything wrong. like you said in was incongruity within the paragraph...nothing more.
I must appoligize to you for even suggesting that you might be lying to me. I've become kind of suspicious regarding the honesty of some people of late and I need not have looked in your direction, at all.
I'm sorry CoCo. I hope that whatever the reason for your being "through with stories, anyway" will be resolved so that you can continue to bring your fellow posters your art and sophistication.
love michelle
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ta-pocketa-pocketa-pocketa-pocketa revved the rolls-royce gas turbine bypass turbofan aero-engine as sir walter mitty prepared for takeoff ... the comely cockpit stewardess, a certain babette de sheer, plied her sumptuous way to sir walter's seated, muscled side and offered him a tall, cold one: a frosty lalique of milk, shaken, not stirred .... .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zva5xmrz48a.
dear CoCo...
o.k...throwing in an "anti-disclaimer" did confuse me
keep. it. simple. sweety.
love michelle
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ta-pocketa-pocketa-pocketa-pocketa revved the rolls-royce gas turbine bypass turbofan aero-engine as sir walter mitty prepared for takeoff ... the comely cockpit stewardess, a certain babette de sheer, plied her sumptuous way to sir walter's seated, muscled side and offered him a tall, cold one: a frosty lalique of milk, shaken, not stirred .... .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zva5xmrz48a.
CoCo...
are you winking because what you just said in your post to me is a lie?...if so, why would you feel so inclined?...
love michelle
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ta-pocketa-pocketa-pocketa-pocketa revved the rolls-royce gas turbine bypass turbofan aero-engine as sir walter mitty prepared for takeoff ... the comely cockpit stewardess, a certain babette de sheer, plied her sumptuous way to sir walter's seated, muscled side and offered him a tall, cold one: a frosty lalique of milk, shaken, not stirred .... .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zva5xmrz48a.
greetings, CoCo...
In the last house I lived I painted the black front door a nice Chinese red colour...that didn't go over too well with my bf. black is where it's at as far as he's concerned...:(
love michelle