gotta love pat.. "ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions.
ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity.
it is the mere abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of jesus.
dear jah1914...
the concept of God as a triune God is first eluded to in genesis 1:1-3...
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep.
And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.
Then God said, “Let there be light”; and there was light.
love michelle
gotta love pat.. "ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions.
ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity.
it is the mere abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of jesus.
dear godrulz...
I agree that the word "being" would mean the same as nature...we are all human beings and have the same nature...we are not all the same person...:)
love michelle
gotta love pat.. "ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions.
ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity.
it is the mere abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of jesus.
dear Tammy...
you said: "Same nature. Not the same being."(said of the Son)...
would you say the same about the Holy Spirit? (the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son.john 14:26)
love michelle
gotta love pat.. "ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions.
ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity.
it is the mere abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of jesus.
dear saltyoldlady...
you said: "Starting in Verse 34 - Jesus answered them "Is it not written in your Law, I said (the "I" there is referring to Jehovah's dialogue with them) You are gods?" If He called gods those against whom the word of God came, and yet the Scriptures cannot be nullified, do you say to me whom the Father sanctified and dispatched into the world, 'You blaspheme,' because I said I am God's Son. (There are two points I glean from this dialogue - one what he actually said was, he was God's Son, not God the Almighty Creator, and two - that men can and were referred to as gods without this idea of equality in stature, rank, deity, or whatever being attributed to them.)"...
God stands in the congregation of the mighty;
He judges among the gods.
How long will you judge unjustly,
And show partiality to the wicked? Selah
Defend the poor and fatherless;
Do justice to the afflicted and needy.
Deliver the poor and needy;
Free them from the hand of the wicked.
They do not know, nor do they understand;
They walk about in darkness;
All the foundations of the earth are unstable.
I said, “You are gods,
And all of you are children of the Most High.
But you shall die like men,
And fall like one of the princes.”
Arise, O God, judge the earth;
For You shall inherit all nations.
one could ascertain that Jesus quoted this scripture because these were infact being unjust in deciding that He Himself should be stoned to death...in psalm 82:1-8 they were called "gods" because they held a position of authority as judges over ones life or death regarding the penalty for sin...in this case stoning for perceived blaspheme against God in calling Himself Son of God.
Jesus said that the leaders sat in the seat of moses(in regard to the law)...they sat in the judgement seat...(aaron sat in the seat of a priest.)...the Son of God rightly sits in the seat of both judge and priest forever.
love michelle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kreSbagj_RM&feature=player_embedded
i know this is an old topic but i'm in need of some catch up.. an old friend of mine lives nearby.
she is the youngest sibling to some active jw's that i know.
i was asked to kinda keep an eye on my friend as she has major health issues and past substance addiction issues.
you're welcome!...here is jwfacts.org's info too.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/medical
xo
i know this is an old topic but i'm in need of some catch up.. an old friend of mine lives nearby.
she is the youngest sibling to some active jw's that i know.
i was asked to kinda keep an eye on my friend as she has major health issues and past substance addiction issues.
dear wha happened?...
cheetos posted these links about three yrs ago...
http://www.ajwrb.org/basics/abstain.shtml
http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2007/12/reacting_to_jehovahs_witnesses_refusal_t_1.php
http://www.macgregorministries.org/jehovahs_witnesses/bewareofwt/protect.html
...Randy's site isn't very co-operative today!...
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/medical
love michelle
my last update on my daughter was so good...but it didn't turn out that way.
she was cleared to go back to work, but with limitations... she couldn't lift more than 10 pounds.
her employer wanted her back but wouldn't agree to the lifting restriction.
...xo
maybe he wanted a picture of a well.
http://inlinethumb11.webshots.com/906/2407736130015600326S600x600Q85.jpg
this is a real puzzler.. for christendom at large there is no problem in thinking of humans as a body (tent) which houses the soul.. for jehovah's witnesses the human is the tent.
no soul is contained.
(they make "soul" the same as body.).
dear MrFreeze...
you asked: "If we are completely gone but are recreated, are we technically even the same person?"...
I think to God we would be the same person even if we don't have memory of our "being" previously...having the same state of "being" as we did at the first death ie: justified, just or unjust would be the continuity of our mortal person at birth...but again it is our state of "being" at death which is what is important to God...eccl. 7:1...proverbs 15:30...who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus, who gave Himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.
love michelle
