myelaine

Joined

• started 23 topics
• posted 2,815 times   see topics posted on
• send a message

Posts by myelaine

• 
  233

  Does the Issue of Universal Sovereignty make sense to you as an explanation for evil?

  by gubberningbody in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it used to for me, and now it doesn't.. i'm not sure how i was able to accept that argument now that i don't, but perhaps it was connected with my increasing compassion for people and their personal suffering as i've grown older.. now it seems like a sick excuse.

  more like a bar-bet with satan and all of creation suffers.. i read paul's words and he has no rejoiner except to say in effect "sucks to be a vessel of wrath...glad i'm not one, but who are you to complain anyway, huh?

  who's bigger, smarter and more powerful than you, you, you complaining vessel of wrath, you.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  myelaine

  dear Tammy...

  on this thread (alone) you have have tried to deflect criticisim on to others while you give the go-ahead to AGuest's abuse towards others while she is speaking in the name of her lord.

  You have become foolish in panting after her...and you seem to have no problem being deceptive yourself if it means not offending AGuest.

  The Jesus portrayed in the bible (and the Jesus I have come to know) is more merciful, loving and humble than her lord has her go about engageing in her ministry. the Holy Spirit helps Jesus' servants to be conformed to His image.(fruit of the Spirit)

  you continually avoid giving straight answers to simple questions. http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/216752/1/Faith-and-the-Bible

  let me ask you...does Jesus bring (and the bible teach) the "gospel of salvation in Jesus Christ" or "the gospel of love in Jesus Christ"?...are you willing to deny Jesus Christ supreme authority over your life because you think that your own concept of love is the way to gauge His concept of love?

  do you know that by teaching the love of Jesus Christ and completely forgoing the need of repentance and salvation in Jesus Christ you will be held accountable for their being deceived?...that's something to think about.

  love michelle

  p.s. you are caught in her web, you are hapless, but telling others that it ain't such a bad place to be.
• 
  233

  Does the Issue of Universal Sovereignty make sense to you as an explanation for evil?

  by gubberningbody in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it used to for me, and now it doesn't.. i'm not sure how i was able to accept that argument now that i don't, but perhaps it was connected with my increasing compassion for people and their personal suffering as i've grown older.. now it seems like a sick excuse.

  more like a bar-bet with satan and all of creation suffers.. i read paul's words and he has no rejoiner except to say in effect "sucks to be a vessel of wrath...glad i'm not one, but who are you to complain anyway, huh?

  who's bigger, smarter and more powerful than you, you, you complaining vessel of wrath, you.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  myelaine

  dear Tammy...

  I mean that I think you will now lie without compunction...

  love michelle
• 
  233

  Does the Issue of Universal Sovereignty make sense to you as an explanation for evil?

  by gubberningbody in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it used to for me, and now it doesn't.. i'm not sure how i was able to accept that argument now that i don't, but perhaps it was connected with my increasing compassion for people and their personal suffering as i've grown older.. now it seems like a sick excuse.

  more like a bar-bet with satan and all of creation suffers.. i read paul's words and he has no rejoiner except to say in effect "sucks to be a vessel of wrath...glad i'm not one, but who are you to complain anyway, huh?

  who's bigger, smarter and more powerful than you, you, you complaining vessel of wrath, you.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  myelaine

  "Um... just that I know she doesn't think she's infallible, and to ensure that she knows also that I was also being lighthearted... not mean spirited."

  ...yeah...your explaination doesn't make any sense considering you weren't talking to AGuest...

  you're tangling yourself in her deceptive web...

  love michelle
• 
  15

  Former JW's on Ankerberg show Sun Oct.16-2011

  by koolaid-man in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.ankerberg.com/ should be good.... 6 part series..

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  myelaine

  dear lovelylil...

  you have a pm.
• 
  233

  Does the Issue of Universal Sovereignty make sense to you as an explanation for evil?

  by gubberningbody in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it used to for me, and now it doesn't.. i'm not sure how i was able to accept that argument now that i don't, but perhaps it was connected with my increasing compassion for people and their personal suffering as i've grown older.. now it seems like a sick excuse.

  more like a bar-bet with satan and all of creation suffers.. i read paul's words and he has no rejoiner except to say in effect "sucks to be a vessel of wrath...glad i'm not one, but who are you to complain anyway, huh?

  who's bigger, smarter and more powerful than you, you, you complaining vessel of wrath, you.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  myelaine

  dear Tammy...

  you said: "Despite the fact that Shelby is not infallible (she would be the first to yell that from the rooftops )"...what's the wink supposed to mean?...

  love michelle
• 
  233

  Does the Issue of Universal Sovereignty make sense to you as an explanation for evil?

  by gubberningbody in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it used to for me, and now it doesn't.. i'm not sure how i was able to accept that argument now that i don't, but perhaps it was connected with my increasing compassion for people and their personal suffering as i've grown older.. now it seems like a sick excuse.

  more like a bar-bet with satan and all of creation suffers.. i read paul's words and he has no rejoiner except to say in effect "sucks to be a vessel of wrath...glad i'm not one, but who are you to complain anyway, huh?

  who's bigger, smarter and more powerful than you, you, you complaining vessel of wrath, you.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  myelaine

  dear N.drew...

  you are right...we should ALWAYS remember that we live our life in His presence.

  thank you.

  love michelle
• 
  90

  Faith and the Bible

  by tec in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for those of us who must walk by sight (for now), there is nothing wrong with using the bible to help learn about christ and god... as long as ... you look to christ first and foremost and over anything else.

  otherwise, i do not see the point in saying you follow christ or you are a christian.

  he is the truth.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  myelaine

  dear Tammy...

  God is an exacting God...each human is worth something, a lot in fact, that is why He called for sacrifices for their sins. The pharisees taught this that is why they tithed right down to the exact amount of spice. they were exacting too...but they didn't practice love and mercy knowing full well in their hearts that no one could keep the law exactly.

  this doesn't change the fact that God is exacting. that is why Jesus came...so that He could pay the price for each of us individually.

  think of a set of scales Gods exacting standards on one side and you on the other. you don't believe the systematictheology that says Jesus will be on your side balancing out the scales.

  This is the interpretation of each word. MENE: God has numbered your kingdom, and finished it; TEKEK: You have been weighed in the balances, and found wanting...PERES: Your kingdom has been divided, and given to the Medes and Persians. daniel 5:26-27

  BECAUSE: "Then they brought the gold vessels that had been taken from the temple of the house of God which had been in Jerusalem(the City of Truth, zech 2:5); and the king and his lords, his wives, and his concubines drank from them.They drank wine, and praised the gods of gold and silver, bronze and iron, wood and stone." daniel 5:3-4

  love michelle
• 
  233

  Does the Issue of Universal Sovereignty make sense to you as an explanation for evil?

  by gubberningbody in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it used to for me, and now it doesn't.. i'm not sure how i was able to accept that argument now that i don't, but perhaps it was connected with my increasing compassion for people and their personal suffering as i've grown older.. now it seems like a sick excuse.

  more like a bar-bet with satan and all of creation suffers.. i read paul's words and he has no rejoiner except to say in effect "sucks to be a vessel of wrath...glad i'm not one, but who are you to complain anyway, huh?

  who's bigger, smarter and more powerful than you, you, you complaining vessel of wrath, you.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  myelaine

  dear AGuest...

  you said:"See, that's the interesting thing about putting one's faith in the Bible, Michelle... and Paul. Because (1) you are misapply this verse, and (2) about a year after Paul wrote the above to the Corinthians, he wrote the following to the Romans:

  Therefore those in union with Christ Jesus have no condemnation. For the law of that spirit which gives life in union with Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death. Romans 8:1, 2

  While it is true that all WILL stand before the Judgment Seat, not ALL will do so in order to be judged. "

  don't be so quick to read something into what I wrote in order to show me wrong...we ALL stand before the judgement seat...those in Jesus Christ will be judged in order to determine the rewards for their service NOT condemnation. (rev 4:4) and because only the Lamb is worthy all the saints crowns will be thrown towards the throne as an act of homage to the King of Kings while He is praised.

  ...if you don't trust the bible that my Lord GOD provided then don't trust it to help YOU get YOUR lord's message across...your hypocrisy is tedious.

  love michelle
• 
  233

  Does the Issue of Universal Sovereignty make sense to you as an explanation for evil?

  by gubberningbody in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it used to for me, and now it doesn't.. i'm not sure how i was able to accept that argument now that i don't, but perhaps it was connected with my increasing compassion for people and their personal suffering as i've grown older.. now it seems like a sick excuse.

  more like a bar-bet with satan and all of creation suffers.. i read paul's words and he has no rejoiner except to say in effect "sucks to be a vessel of wrath...glad i'm not one, but who are you to complain anyway, huh?

  who's bigger, smarter and more powerful than you, you, you complaining vessel of wrath, you.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  myelaine

  dear Terry...

  you said: "The God of Christianity struggles against Evil. Why? Soverign Godship would never allow it to happen in the first place."...

  the jewish apocrypha talks about several levels (dimentions?) of heaven as does the NT writer paul and Jesus said that He saw satan himself fall from heaven like lightening.

  God is Sovereign in highest heaven...where He can't look upon evil because it is reprehensible.

  so this, and the fact that Jesus is given all authority over heaven and earth, points to the the issue of Universal Sovereignty being "contractually" signed and sealed but not delivered or implemented yet because delivery would mean a need for instant elimination of evil and God WANTS to wait because His "stated" will is that all "men" might be saved. (rev 11:15-19)

  love michelle
• 
  90

  Faith and the Bible

  by tec in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for those of us who must walk by sight (for now), there is nothing wrong with using the bible to help learn about christ and god... as long as ... you look to christ first and foremost and over anything else.

  otherwise, i do not see the point in saying you follow christ or you are a christian.

  he is the truth.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  myelaine

  dear Vander...

  I just think you're a sucker...

  still love you though and you are both in my prayers.

  michelle...xo