Posts by myelaine

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Do JWs have a biblically normative relationship with Jesus christ?

by Vanderhoven7 in

i would say that that would be impossible...given that jesus christ is simply an angelic being in wts eyes.. jehovah's witnesses have about as much a relationship with the angel gabriel as they do with jesus.. and, no...tacking on the name of jesus at the end of a prayer is not evidence of relationship..

myelaine

dear Vander...

what did you say?...are you saying that any image that man fashions and calls "christ" isn't wrong to worship? and that the orthodox "religious" isn't the habitation of Jesus Christ any more than say someone who refuses to name Jesus?...you're not articulating what you believe or think.

dear Terry...

so, considering man would be encountering Almighty God, creator of heaven and earth we ought to be reverent towards Him and show reverence toward the "church" He founded as well since He dwells in "it"?

profound statements should make us think...

What profit is the image, that its maker should carve it,
The molded image, a teacher of lies,
That the maker of its mold should trust in it,
To make mute idols?
Woe to him who says to wood, ‘Awake!’
To silent stone, ‘Arise! It shall teach!’
Behold, it is overlaid with gold and silver,
Yet in it there is no breath at all.
“ But the LORD is in His holy temple.
Let all the earth keep silence before Him.” habakkuk 2:18-20

love michelle

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Do JWs have a biblically normative relationship with Jesus christ?

by Vanderhoven7 in

i would say that that would be impossible...given that jesus christ is simply an angelic being in wts eyes.. jehovah's witnesses have about as much a relationship with the angel gabriel as they do with jesus.. and, no...tacking on the name of jesus at the end of a prayer is not evidence of relationship..

myelaine

dear Vander...

the early church had travelling ministers, deacons and elders. congregations of people who met on certain dates and for the reason of breaking bread. http://www.rosarychurch.net/consecration/justin.html do you think that it is important to maintain this as a form of worship? many young people are moving away from formal worship like this and aren't part of a church family...what do you feel will be the possibility of manifestation of a congregation as the elders pass on and there is no one(?) to fill the pews?.

(you can put this in your "for what it's worth" file: I think that the emergence of mystical spirituality and do your own thing god[ess] conscienceness is putting the organized church on a collision course with modernity that is fortold in the bible...2 thess 2:7)

love michelle

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Do JWs have a biblically normative relationship with Jesus christ?

by Vanderhoven7 in

i would say that that would be impossible...given that jesus christ is simply an angelic being in wts eyes.. jehovah's witnesses have about as much a relationship with the angel gabriel as they do with jesus.. and, no...tacking on the name of jesus at the end of a prayer is not evidence of relationship..

myelaine

dear Terry...

I dislike or am intolerant of very few things. very few things get me wound up as a consequence.

love michelle

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Do JWs have a biblically normative relationship with Jesus christ?

by Vanderhoven7 in

i would say that that would be impossible...given that jesus christ is simply an angelic being in wts eyes.. jehovah's witnesses have about as much a relationship with the angel gabriel as they do with jesus.. and, no...tacking on the name of jesus at the end of a prayer is not evidence of relationship..

myelaine

"Hey back then I was all onboard with the Michael guy, liked him, talked to him." ...okaaaay...

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SPECIAL INTERVIEW with Jehovah!

by Terry in

you live; you die.

r: but, why give us a bible.

why send jesus to die for us if everything is "meaningless" for us?.

myelaine

lol..."patron st. of the confused"...was that a freudian slip?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SP5EfwBWgg0

love michelle

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Do JWs have a biblically normative relationship with Jesus christ?

by Vanderhoven7 in

i would say that that would be impossible...given that jesus christ is simply an angelic being in wts eyes.. jehovah's witnesses have about as much a relationship with the angel gabriel as they do with jesus.. and, no...tacking on the name of jesus at the end of a prayer is not evidence of relationship..

myelaine

dear designs...

I don't know what their private prayer life is like, their public prayer life is reverent.

I can appreciate their reverent "formula" because I haven't, that I can recall, prayed in the manner: "dear Jesus"...Jesus taught us how to pray and so I will listen to Him and address my prayers to my dear heavenly Father, then petition my dear Lord and dear God in Jesus' name. still, a little less formal than Jehovah God.

I guess the evangelicals had your number when they gave you the squint eye back then? o_0

love michelle

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Hello Everyone :-)

by new one in

jw
friends

i've only recently joined but i've been lurking for well over a year.

i'll just start with a bit of my story so you'll have a better idea on were i'm coming from, i've read that much of most of your posts that i feel i already know you all anyway lol.. i'm 32 years old now and for most of my life i've had jw's around me at times, my mom used to study on and off with them all through my child hood alough she never took the plunge i'm not sure why because even to this day she say's she holds the same beliefs but somethings held her back so there's doubt somewhere!.

anyway, having had the magazines around me for most my life i'd read them from time to time,but, when i reached about 17 years old i discovered nightclubs, alcohol and, well you know the rest ;-).. fast forward to my early 20's and i'd had a failed attempt at setting up my own business, my parents had split up after 25 years together and long story short i had a nervous breakdown.

myelaine

Greetings Chris!

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Do JWs have a biblically normative relationship with Jesus christ?

by Vanderhoven7 in

i would say that that would be impossible...given that jesus christ is simply an angelic being in wts eyes.. jehovah's witnesses have about as much a relationship with the angel gabriel as they do with jesus.. and, no...tacking on the name of jesus at the end of a prayer is not evidence of relationship..

myelaine

dear Vander...

I think that for a JW to address, talk to and pray to Jehovah God...isn't really the personal relationship that the Spirit encourages..."ABBA Father".

love michelle

p.s. if the JW's believe that Jesus is an angel it only stands to reason that they wouldn't address, talk to or pray to him.(although they supposedly have taken direction from angels in the past. How the angels were to have communicated this info, I don't know?? it's weird)

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Do JWs have a biblically normative relationship with Jesus christ?

by Vanderhoven7 in

i would say that that would be impossible...given that jesus christ is simply an angelic being in wts eyes.. jehovah's witnesses have about as much a relationship with the angel gabriel as they do with jesus.. and, no...tacking on the name of jesus at the end of a prayer is not evidence of relationship..

myelaine

dear Ding...

I think you've stated a correct observation.

O my...

I just realised that my last comment to Terry might be too judgemental for some fellow posters sensibilities...

love michelle

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Do JWs have a biblically normative relationship with Jesus christ?

by Vanderhoven7 in

i would say that that would be impossible...given that jesus christ is simply an angelic being in wts eyes.. jehovah's witnesses have about as much a relationship with the angel gabriel as they do with jesus.. and, no...tacking on the name of jesus at the end of a prayer is not evidence of relationship..

myelaine

dear wobble...

because you didn't see Jesus or that great cloud of witnesses then you reasonably conclude that they were invisible and fiction?...

love michelle