Posts by myelaine

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The Truth About Bible Principles: Chastity and Abstinence

by sabastious in

jehovah's witnesses have a vast array of buzzterms that are fed into them on a regular basis, not the least of which is the term "bible principles.

" for most of my life i was convinced that only members of the watchtower bible and tract society were applying bible principles in the correct way.

this was mainly because we believed we had the correct translation of the holy scriptures which was largely rejected by "satan's world.

myelaine

dear sabastious...

you said: "Chastity and abstinence are not secular pursuits, they are religious pursuits."...

I realize that chastity and abstinence aren't secular pursuits but one of its "offshoots" the notion of personal dignity, as pertains to sexual activity, is not confined to the christian religion but is a secular "virtue" as well.

strictly speaking, they are not general "religious" pursuits either...there are and have been religions that practice "sacred sex", sexual religious rites...and don't forget the temple prostitutes.

maybe it is the case that CHRISTIAN religious principles (and their attendant virtures) spilling out into secular society is disagreeable to you? in which case, revelation 21:7-8 might be disagreeable to you too.

love michelle

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The Truth About Bible Principles: Chastity and Abstinence

by sabastious in

jehovah's witnesses have a vast array of buzzterms that are fed into them on a regular basis, not the least of which is the term "bible principles.

" for most of my life i was convinced that only members of the watchtower bible and tract society were applying bible principles in the correct way.

this was mainly because we believed we had the correct translation of the holy scriptures which was largely rejected by "satan's world.

myelaine

dear sabastious...

I hadn't mentioned the idea of sin. I mentioned dignity.

whether you place a promiscuous person's actions in a file titled "sin" or "not sin" doesn't have much if any bearing on the secular notion of personal dignity.

there are people who get caught up in their bad choices to the degree that they can't extradite themselves...if the whole country was left to their own devices where would the help (interventions)for these people come from but from those who recognize that there ARE limits to ones ability to control otherwise natural inclinations?...I think that these principles are beneficial as an (intellectual) barrier to wanton even lascivious sexuality.

you said: "I believe that the pedophilia rampant in the religions of today is a result of the clinging to ancient laws for longer than necessary."...

pedophiles and those who abuse older children sexually have been known to be married too, they are not just found in the religious sexually repressed camp if that is what you are implying.

love michelle

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Missed you my friends

by d in

i have not been on this site for a while becausei have been working so how have people been on this site?.

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myelaine

cool. I used to provide weekend respite care for children with disabilities. it can be a challenge, but I'm sure you have noticed great rewards too.

love michelle

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The Truth About Bible Principles: Chastity and Abstinence

by sabastious in

jehovah's witnesses have a vast array of buzzterms that are fed into them on a regular basis, not the least of which is the term "bible principles.

" for most of my life i was convinced that only members of the watchtower bible and tract society were applying bible principles in the correct way.

this was mainly because we believed we had the correct translation of the holy scriptures which was largely rejected by "satan's world.

myelaine

dear sabastious...

you said: "Taking an ancient law on the subject of sexual relations from a world void of modern medical technology and directly enforcing it upon a modern day populaton is completely immoral and destructive."...

ancient laws/principles were articulated to acknowledge responsibily for personal dignity as opposed to the un-restrained or un-trained passions inherent in man.

we need to make room for these laws/principles if we want to live in a civilized society, don't you think?

love michelle

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Missed you my friends

by d in

i have not been on this site for a while becausei have been working so how have people been on this site?.

.

myelaine

what kind of camp? a summer children's camp or a seasonal campground? what type of work were you doing?

my family has been able to spend more time than in previous years out camping and stuff...unfortunately most of the lakes around here have algae warnings.

love michelle

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Missed you my friends

by d in

i have not been on this site for a while becausei have been working so how have people been on this site?.

.

myelaine

hi d...

where have you been working?

your alias made me smile. years ago my son and I were watching bram stokers dracula and when that young fellow was reading (while dracula was narrating) the welcome letter from dracula it was signed, "D"...since then every once in a while I ask him to do an impersonation (it happens) we look at each other and do our dracula impersonation together...just "D" with an accent...then we laugh and laugh...(ok, I laugh and laugh...he looks at me with an uncomfortable smile)

anyway...nice to see you again.

love michelle

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Are the Jews meek?

by slimboyfat in

i thought these were pretty surprising comments in the consolation magazine in 1946, just a few months after the full horrors of the holocaust emerged, under the heading "are the jews meek?":.

"there is no evidence in the scriptures that the jews as a people are meek.

on the contrary, jehovah's witnesses only find it stated in the bible that the jews are "stiff-necked and hard-hearted", but when they call at their homes with the message of god's kingdom they witness the same characteristics.

myelaine

dear slimboyfat...

"They seem to think that because they are Jews, and were once God's chosen people, they must ever remain that way." Consolation, Jan 2nd 1946, pages 14 and 15."...

"Concerning the gospel they are enemies for your sake, but concerning the election they are beloved for the sake of the fathers. For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable." romans 11:28-29

love michelle

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I Believe Catholicism And Its Trappings Are Silly, Strange & Weird!!!

by minimus in

jw
friends

my italian friend loves going to the "feasts" that occur in italy, boston or nyc.

these feasts feature a "saint" with dollar bills pinned around her and they parade the saint in a long procession and chant "viva (whomever)".

they are quite serious about this and are proud to talk about the past generations of observers who appreciated the events.

myelaine

well, hopefully he is more responsive now...if he still has his job

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I Believe Catholicism And Its Trappings Are Silly, Strange & Weird!!!

by minimus in

jw
friends

my italian friend loves going to the "feasts" that occur in italy, boston or nyc.

these feasts feature a "saint" with dollar bills pinned around her and they parade the saint in a long procession and chant "viva (whomever)".

they are quite serious about this and are proud to talk about the past generations of observers who appreciated the events.

myelaine

dear still thinking...

you stated: "My son went to a catholic school a couple of years ago, purely because my friend said it was a good school..I pulled him out after a few months because of a boy who was sexually abused in the toilets by a senior boy. I told the principle about it...he swept it under the carpet. Nothing much has changed. It just looks that way."...

did you bring your information to the police?

love michelle

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What do you replace it with?

by konceptual99 in

jw
friends

so... i am coming to the conclusion that pretty much all of the doctrinal stuff that i have believed for 25/30 years is built on a house of cards and it's about to come crashing down.

question is what do i replace it with?.

my intellectual head says that that whole thing is junk and there is almost certainly no god at all.

myelaine

dear King Solomon...

let's place the entire decision to have christianity as the dominant state religion in emperor constantine's lap. he was worshiped as a god, he could have a "toga party" evey day of the week, he had slaves, he could do ANYTHING he wanted to do...ANYWHERE. but he gave this all up so that he could have slaves in good conscience?...

kinda sounds like GOD had a lot of influence on his life, imo.

love michelle