a transcendant being resides as a glob of cellular matter in a woman's body for nine months stitching together a human without the dna of a male human being.. the being is squeezed out of the vaginal canal of his host/mother and has to poop and piss on himself for a couple of years.
what is wrong with this picture?.
the consciousness of the fetus would be what, then?.
Really cofty...
one person's justifying ludicrous superstitions is another person's expanding on incomplete ideas. I'm always perfectly willing to allow you your time to speak without giving negative comment, why don't you have the courtesy to do the same? I'm discussing ideas that are in the realm of possibility...the ideas themselves even fit within the framework of what a believer calls revealed truth.
love michelle
a transcendant being resides as a glob of cellular matter in a woman's body for nine months stitching together a human without the dna of a male human being.. the being is squeezed out of the vaginal canal of his host/mother and has to poop and piss on himself for a couple of years.
what is wrong with this picture?.
the consciousness of the fetus would be what, then?.
dear cofty...
I haven't tried to "justify" a superstition with a metaphor.
...as some atheists always do, you automatically try to shoot down discussion about God because you have no personal belief in Him. In the marketplace of ideas you endeavour to stifle any but your own...while I, on the other hand, try to expand the thought process into as yet uncharted territory.
love michelle
a transcendant being resides as a glob of cellular matter in a woman's body for nine months stitching together a human without the dna of a male human being.. the being is squeezed out of the vaginal canal of his host/mother and has to poop and piss on himself for a couple of years.
what is wrong with this picture?.
the consciousness of the fetus would be what, then?.
God tasked certain people to contextualize their knowledge of Him for their time. Moses and paul are two examples of people who, while not re-defining God and His message of redemption, taught God's message to man by placing Him and His activity into their time. They re-contextualized the gospel as knowledge of God increased. That doesn't mean that their knowledge is myth but, an immature expression of facts.
love michelle
a transcendant being resides as a glob of cellular matter in a woman's body for nine months stitching together a human without the dna of a male human being.. the being is squeezed out of the vaginal canal of his host/mother and has to poop and piss on himself for a couple of years.
what is wrong with this picture?.
the consciousness of the fetus would be what, then?.
I read this somewhere recently ;)
it may help as a way of explaining what I'm talking about.
take a piece of paper and fold it in half. Push a pencil through the paper making two holes. Then unfold the paper.
the space between the two holes can be portrayed is our "time"...the two holes can portray the Son...the beginning and the end. in this way it can be demonstrated how the Son can be creator of our "time" and be the pre-existant One as well as exist in our "time"...Jesus...Immanuel...God with us.
love michelle
a transcendant being resides as a glob of cellular matter in a woman's body for nine months stitching together a human without the dna of a male human being.. the being is squeezed out of the vaginal canal of his host/mother and has to poop and piss on himself for a couple of years.
what is wrong with this picture?.
the consciousness of the fetus would be what, then?.
Well, if the sons of God were created in eternity/timelessness then they wouldn't have a mother...like adam. In order to allow for choice and decision making human beings needed an environment where they could grow and mature...an environment where there is the progression of time. Jesus was said to decend from eternity and asend to eternity. He was prepared for this environment like every other human being since adam. 40 weeks. once He asended He entered into His eternal habitation (able to move forward and backward in our time continuum) which explains why there were Christophanies before He was "born" as well as after He "died"...described as bright light.
the bible says that the fullness of God was suppressed in the physical manifestation.
I'll talk about going poop with my 11 year old boys on the way home from school if they initiate the conversation, it's simply a fact of life. I don't know why a 67(?) yo would feel the need to bring it up in disparaging the notion of God incarnate...unless you're out of aces.
love michelle
a transcendant being resides as a glob of cellular matter in a woman's body for nine months stitching together a human without the dna of a male human being.. the being is squeezed out of the vaginal canal of his host/mother and has to poop and piss on himself for a couple of years.
what is wrong with this picture?.
the consciousness of the fetus would be what, then?.
I think we're involved in a time continuum "do-over" (un-merited favor) scenario with the victorious sons of light defining or more appropriately "unraveling" the theme of redemption which facilitates what God (who exists outside of our time continuum*) has called pre-destination. "everyone who is found written in the book will be saved"
*an object in motion actually experiences time at a slower rate than one at rest.
Jesus is the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world...rev. 13:8
love michelle
i am trying to write a logical explanation of the book of daniel.
for instance, i now know that daniel was wrong about the son of nebuchadnezzar, because belshazzar was not nebuchadnezzar's son.
also, daniel wrote:.
Daniel is listed in the writings and not the prophets because a jewish prophet was someone who spoke the word of God to the people. Daniel spoke to the king not the people. It is not until the end times that daniel comes into his inheretance...He will arise about the same time as there is "one on this side of the riverbank and another on that side of the riverbank"[tigris]
At that time the words of daniel to the "king of babylon" will find their mark and daniel will begin to speak to his people.
love michelle
to my total astonishment, there is no mention whatsoever in the scriptures re jehovah's creative days being each of 7000 years duration.. nothing!.
zilch!.
...and yet the wt had this to say:.
dear Apognophus...
Thank you.
God sanctified the seventh day when He rested from all that He had created.
the day of the LORD is dark and gloomy and then He is roused from His holy habitation...scripture seems to indicate that the day of the LORD is the beginning of a New Day (evening then morning) for Him. He no longer rests...He comes in the evening and before the morning He has vanquished His enemies (isaiah 17:13-14; isaiah 66:12-16) so that would mean the New Day doesn't start with the millenial kingdom...it starts with the day of the LORD.
Scripture says even Jesus, who is the Sun of Righteousness, will come like a thief in the NIGHT.
love michelle
to my total astonishment, there is no mention whatsoever in the scriptures re jehovah's creative days being each of 7000 years duration.. nothing!.
zilch!.
...and yet the wt had this to say:.
dear undercover...
you said, "They also still claim that Adam was created 6000 years ago, keeping us in the last thousand years of day six."...
I don't get it?
if God is resting on the seventh day and believers, who are in Christ Jesus (2 peter 1:19; rev.22:16) have entered into God's rest (the morning after the evening...the seventh day) then unbelievers are in the evening before the morning...but still the seventh day.
does the wtbts have God creating the new heavens and new earth on His seventh day...His day of rest?
love michelle
to my total astonishment, there is no mention whatsoever in the scriptures re jehovah's creative days being each of 7000 years duration.. nothing!.
zilch!.
...and yet the wt had this to say:.
For God, a creative day is the evening and then the morning...nowhere in the bible is a creative day said to be 24 hours, a year or 1000 years. the "lights" were for signs and seasons, and for days and years...surely not for the convenience of God's timekeeping as He had 3 evenings and mornings before the earth had a sun, moon and stars. So, there really is no scriptural motivation to be dogmatic about how long a "creative day" is.
Jesus said the "world" is presently in darkness (seventh evening)...malachi 4:2...
"Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest." Matthew 11:28
love michelle
