jehovah's witnesses,is jesus christ, jehovah god?
(not the father, but equal to the father)what if the watchtower told you about god in a false way, and yet the bible taught you about god in his true character, how would you respond?could it be true, that the watchtower have been leading you up the garden path, describing god in a way that the bible does not describe?
please watch my latest video to help you to see how the bible describes the lord jesus christ, and also within my video, i explain from the new world translation how the bible which the jws use, also describes jesus as jehovah god.
I didn't think the words consciousness and presence used in relation to God the Father were too esoteric for you to grasp, since you yourself share a similar "stream of unified mental constructs that arise spontaneously".
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John 1:32...God is omnipresent Spirit and it was His Holy Spirit that descended on Jesus, in the form of a dove, at His baptism. Not for Jesus' benefit but for the benefit of the witnesses of Jesus' baptism (since He has full possession of the Spirit of God already)
jehovah's witnesses,is jesus christ, jehovah god?
(not the father, but equal to the father)what if the watchtower told you about god in a false way, and yet the bible taught you about god in his true character, how would you respond?could it be true, that the watchtower have been leading you up the garden path, describing god in a way that the bible does not describe?
please watch my latest video to help you to see how the bible describes the lord jesus christ, and also within my video, i explain from the new world translation how the bible which the jws use, also describes jesus as jehovah god.
dear cofty...
Jesus was fully man during His incarnation so there is no reason to believe that His body and how it worked was any different than ours.
The fully God "side" of Him would have to be His pre-existent consciousness born of perfect righteousness, justice, grace, truth and the three O's. The exact same "presence" He shared with the Father before He was born in the flesh.
The Holy Spirit (given at pentecost) is the Spirit of Christ. The Spirit of the RESURRECTED Jesus. (Living in eternity with the Father) The Spirit of Christ points to Jesus (the perfect man) as the Saviour because a man needs a man as a corresponding atonement. A "Spirit" simply can't provide atonement for flesh.
xo
jehovah's witnesses,is jesus christ, jehovah god?
(not the father, but equal to the father)what if the watchtower told you about god in a false way, and yet the bible taught you about god in his true character, how would you respond?could it be true, that the watchtower have been leading you up the garden path, describing god in a way that the bible does not describe?
please watch my latest video to help you to see how the bible describes the lord jesus christ, and also within my video, i explain from the new world translation how the bible which the jws use, also describes jesus as jehovah god.
Jesus was "fully" man in His incarnation, but He resurrected as a new creation. Believers will be a new creation at the resurrection too. Those alive at His second coming will be changed "in the twinkling of an eye". 1 Corinthians 15:52.
1 John 3:2 indicates that Jesus is no longer "man" like He was while on earth. What the glorified body is and how it functions isn't known.
why do jws insist on still quoting from the old testament to back up some of their wacky ideas?
such as on blood, beards, abortion, tattoos, etc.
surely if the mosaic law code was nailed to the torture stake all of its parts were cancelled.
dear Onager...
You said, "If you want to assert the existence of such things then I will only accept them with evidence, otherwise my position is that you're just making up stories. 
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Yes, I gathered that from your previous posts directed to me.
It must have been disappointing for you to have looked for evidence of God and not find any. Chin up. Like treasure hidden in a field...one doesn't plan on finding it.
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why do jws insist on still quoting from the old testament to back up some of their wacky ideas?
such as on blood, beards, abortion, tattoos, etc.
surely if the mosaic law code was nailed to the torture stake all of its parts were cancelled.
dear Onager...
You said, "You do seem to be claiming the existence of a Kingdom of God though and that humans can go there as a reward and that there is a "One" who can deliver that reward? If that's so and I haven't missed the point again, do you have any evidence for any of those things?"...
No, I can't give you evidence. You'll have to find it yourself :)
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why do jws insist on still quoting from the old testament to back up some of their wacky ideas?
such as on blood, beards, abortion, tattoos, etc.
surely if the mosaic law code was nailed to the torture stake all of its parts were cancelled.
Thanks for clarifying that CoCo.
Psalm 119:160. God's precepts are eternal, with Him.
xo
why do jws insist on still quoting from the old testament to back up some of their wacky ideas?
such as on blood, beards, abortion, tattoos, etc.
surely if the mosaic law code was nailed to the torture stake all of its parts were cancelled.
dear Onager...
Your response has very little to do with my post you quoted.
I said I'm not into inequality and I'm into living harmoniously with my fellow man.
Anyone CAN live like that. What does "evidence" have to do with it?
Sex organs? Nope, I didn't mention anything about that.
Controlling people? Hmmm...if a person wants something it doesn't take "controlling him" to get that person onboard for it. Like I said, the people in God's kingdom want to be there. No one has been manipulated into being there.
You said, "I'm REALLY not into controlling people in ANY way by dangling a carrot of lies in front of their desperate faces"...
I'm REALLY not into that either. JW's have been controlled by being told that they HAVE to work tirelessly for the possibility of entrance to the kingdom and one false move and they could be locked out forever. That kind of mindset produces desperation. Trusting God and the gospel of salvation produces patient endurance.
xo
why do jws insist on still quoting from the old testament to back up some of their wacky ideas?
such as on blood, beards, abortion, tattoos, etc.
surely if the mosaic law code was nailed to the torture stake all of its parts were cancelled.
I don't know how a contemporary Jewish theocracy would run the show, (justice and mercy was always in the hands of the judiciary) but the kingdom of God under Christ's rule is in the future and by all scriptural indication, there wont be any "infidels" to stone. Everyone will be harmonious because that's the way everyone WANTS it to be. When you're just sick of the inequity of this kingdom, the reward is the kingdom of God. Of course, if you're not REALLY into that sort of thing, it shows in that you'll continue to strive against the only One who can deliver that reward.
xo
why do jws insist on still quoting from the old testament to back up some of their wacky ideas?
such as on blood, beards, abortion, tattoos, etc.
surely if the mosaic law code was nailed to the torture stake all of its parts were cancelled.
dear EverApostate...
Think about Jesus' audience. They were Jewish people living in a backwater Roman conquered area. They were likely poor themselves and didn't have slaves. Because of the inequality between Romans and Jews, some may have been slaves. What would be the point of condemning slavery to them?
His message was to live peacefully and condemning slavery to poor people who may have been slaves of the Romans would have the effect of stoking resentment at the very least. This was antithetical to His cause.
why do jws insist on still quoting from the old testament to back up some of their wacky ideas?
such as on blood, beards, abortion, tattoos, etc.
surely if the mosaic law code was nailed to the torture stake all of its parts were cancelled.
dear EverApostate...
Scripture doesn't say the law was nailed to the cross. It says, "Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to His cross;"... as you have said, the law of God is everlasting.
If a person does what God says to do, he will be blessed. If a person doesn't do what God says to do, he will be cursed. If a person doesn't do what God says don't do, he will be blessed. If a person does do what God says don't do, he will be cursed.
Disobedience toward God is a sin. Sin against God is worthy of death, that is the gist of the law. When Jesus hung on the cross, He became sin, 2 Corinthians 5:21. In so doing, He blotted out that which was against us, our sin debt. He didn't blot out the law, contrary to what "Lost in the fog" said.
Without the written law, we wouldn't really know what sinning against man is (sinning against someone would be relative to how we feel)...or at least the extent of our sinful ways. When we sin against man, we are ALSO sinning against God in our disobedience. As the apostle Paul said in Romans 7:7.
If there is no law, the penalty of death for breaking it (sin) is moot. The christian message of reconciliation to God by remission of sins through Jesus is completely lost.
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