Posts by myelaine

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Another JW "friend" bites the dust

by TerryWalstrom in

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just got word one of my favorite friends died a year ago!

only now have i heard about it.

he remained a devout jehovah's witness--so--he could not/would not speak to me.

myelaine

I'm sorry about the loss of your friends Terry. ❤

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Is Jesus Christ, Jehovah God? (Not the Father, but Equal to the Father)

by JW Answers in

jehovah's witnesses,is jesus christ, jehovah god?

(not the father, but equal to the father)what if the watchtower told you about god in a false way, and yet the bible taught you about god in his true character, how would you respond?could it be true, that the watchtower have been leading you up the garden path, describing god in a way that the bible does not describe?

please watch my latest video to help you to see how the bible describes the lord jesus christ, and also within my video, i explain from the new world translation how the bible which the jws use, also describes jesus as jehovah god.

myelaine

I did explain, to the best of my ability, in my last few posts on this thread.

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Is Jesus Christ, Jehovah God? (Not the Father, but Equal to the Father)

by JW Answers in

jehovah's witnesses,is jesus christ, jehovah god?

(not the father, but equal to the father)what if the watchtower told you about god in a false way, and yet the bible taught you about god in his true character, how would you respond?could it be true, that the watchtower have been leading you up the garden path, describing god in a way that the bible does not describe?

please watch my latest video to help you to see how the bible describes the lord jesus christ, and also within my video, i explain from the new world translation how the bible which the jws use, also describes jesus as jehovah god.

myelaine

Please restate the question you're referring to, cofty.

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Is Jesus Christ, Jehovah God? (Not the Father, but Equal to the Father)

by JW Answers in

jehovah's witnesses,is jesus christ, jehovah god?

(not the father, but equal to the father)what if the watchtower told you about god in a false way, and yet the bible taught you about god in his true character, how would you respond?could it be true, that the watchtower have been leading you up the garden path, describing god in a way that the bible does not describe?

please watch my latest video to help you to see how the bible describes the lord jesus christ, and also within my video, i explain from the new world translation how the bible which the jws use, also describes jesus as jehovah god.

myelaine

I didn't think the words consciousness and presence used in relation to God the Father were too esoteric for you to grasp, since you yourself share a similar "stream of unified mental constructs that arise spontaneously".

xo

John 1:32...God is omnipresent Spirit and it was His Holy Spirit that descended on Jesus, in the form of a dove, at His baptism. Not for Jesus' benefit but for the benefit of the witnesses of Jesus' baptism (since He has full possession of the Spirit of God already)

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Is Jesus Christ, Jehovah God? (Not the Father, but Equal to the Father)

by JW Answers in

jehovah's witnesses,is jesus christ, jehovah god?

(not the father, but equal to the father)what if the watchtower told you about god in a false way, and yet the bible taught you about god in his true character, how would you respond?could it be true, that the watchtower have been leading you up the garden path, describing god in a way that the bible does not describe?

please watch my latest video to help you to see how the bible describes the lord jesus christ, and also within my video, i explain from the new world translation how the bible which the jws use, also describes jesus as jehovah god.

myelaine

dear cofty...

Jesus was fully man during His incarnation so there is no reason to believe that His body and how it worked was any different than ours.

The fully God "side" of Him would have to be His pre-existent consciousness born of perfect righteousness, justice, grace, truth and the three O's. The exact same "presence" He shared with the Father before He was born in the flesh.

The Holy Spirit (given at pentecost) is the Spirit of Christ. The Spirit of the RESURRECTED Jesus. (Living in eternity with the Father) The Spirit of Christ points to Jesus (the perfect man) as the Saviour because a man needs a man as a corresponding atonement. A "Spirit" simply can't provide atonement for flesh.

xo

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Is Jesus Christ, Jehovah God? (Not the Father, but Equal to the Father)

by JW Answers in

jehovah's witnesses,is jesus christ, jehovah god?

(not the father, but equal to the father)what if the watchtower told you about god in a false way, and yet the bible taught you about god in his true character, how would you respond?could it be true, that the watchtower have been leading you up the garden path, describing god in a way that the bible does not describe?

please watch my latest video to help you to see how the bible describes the lord jesus christ, and also within my video, i explain from the new world translation how the bible which the jws use, also describes jesus as jehovah god.

myelaine

Jesus was "fully" man in His incarnation, but He resurrected as a new creation. Believers will be a new creation at the resurrection too. Those alive at His second coming will be changed "in the twinkling of an eye". 1 Corinthians 15:52.

1 John 3:2 indicates that Jesus is no longer "man" like He was while on earth. What the glorified body is and how it functions isn't known.

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Why go back to the Old Testament?

by Lost in the fog in

why do jws insist on still quoting from the old testament to back up some of their wacky ideas?

such as on blood, beards, abortion, tattoos, etc.

surely if the mosaic law code was nailed to the torture stake all of its parts were cancelled.

myelaine

dear Onager...

You said, "If you want to assert the existence of such things then I will only accept them with evidence, otherwise my position is that you're just making up stories. :smile: "...

Yes, I gathered that from your previous posts directed to me.

It must have been disappointing for you to have looked for evidence of God and not find any. Chin up. Like treasure hidden in a field...one doesn't plan on finding it.

❤

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Why go back to the Old Testament?

by Lost in the fog in

why do jws insist on still quoting from the old testament to back up some of their wacky ideas?

such as on blood, beards, abortion, tattoos, etc.

surely if the mosaic law code was nailed to the torture stake all of its parts were cancelled.

myelaine

dear Onager...

You said, "You do seem to be claiming the existence of a Kingdom of God though and that humans can go there as a reward and that there is a "One" who can deliver that reward? If that's so and I haven't missed the point again, do you have any evidence for any of those things?"...

No, I can't give you evidence. You'll have to find it yourself :)

xo

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Why go back to the Old Testament?

by Lost in the fog in

why do jws insist on still quoting from the old testament to back up some of their wacky ideas?

such as on blood, beards, abortion, tattoos, etc.

surely if the mosaic law code was nailed to the torture stake all of its parts were cancelled.

myelaine

Thanks for clarifying that CoCo.

Psalm 119:160. God's precepts are eternal, with Him.

xo

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Why go back to the Old Testament?

by Lost in the fog in

why do jws insist on still quoting from the old testament to back up some of their wacky ideas?

such as on blood, beards, abortion, tattoos, etc.

surely if the mosaic law code was nailed to the torture stake all of its parts were cancelled.

myelaine

dear Onager...

Your response has very little to do with my post you quoted.

I said I'm not into inequality and I'm into living harmoniously with my fellow man.

Anyone CAN live like that. What does "evidence" have to do with it?

Sex organs? Nope, I didn't mention anything about that.

Controlling people? Hmmm...if a person wants something it doesn't take "controlling him" to get that person onboard for it. Like I said, the people in God's kingdom want to be there. No one has been manipulated into being there.

You said, "I'm REALLY not into controlling people in ANY way by dangling a carrot of lies in front of their desperate faces"...

I'm REALLY not into that either. JW's have been controlled by being told that they HAVE to work tirelessly for the possibility of entrance to the kingdom and one false move and they could be locked out forever. That kind of mindset produces desperation. Trusting God and the gospel of salvation produces patient endurance.

xo