I don't believe there is replacement theology in the bible, designs. Paul is explicit that the natural branches will be grafted in again. my first post on this thread says "presently under God's judgement" not God is done with the jewish people.
myelaine
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Early Evidence for 1 John 5: 7
by Perry initalic 4th and 5th century.
629 in the 14th century.
429 in the 14th century (margin).
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114
Early Evidence for 1 John 5: 7
by Perry initalic 4th and 5th century.
629 in the 14th century.
429 in the 14th century (margin).
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myelaine
dear designs...
isaiah 1:7-15 sounds a lot like, "your house is left to you desolate"...does that mean that God wasn't their God?
And come to think of it...as the religious leaders of their time (watchmen) it would be because of ezekiel 33:6 that the pharisees would say, " let His blood be on our heads." (Matthew 27:20,25) being that paul was called to warn the people as a watchman too that's why he said: acts 18:4-6 relating to ezekiel 33:8.
love michelle
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114
Early Evidence for 1 John 5: 7
by Perry initalic 4th and 5th century.
629 in the 14th century.
429 in the 14th century (margin).
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myelaine
designs...
I gave you an earful in a pm ;)
xo
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114
Early Evidence for 1 John 5: 7
by Perry initalic 4th and 5th century.
629 in the 14th century.
429 in the 14th century (margin).
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myelaine
dear designs...
while it is true that a christian will look at the OT and see Jesus, going to jewish sources to get the right interpretation has its drawbacks. One being that jewish sources are obviously biased in favor of not finding Jesus in the OT text and another being as is stated in the OT the jewish people are presently under Gods judgement for their unbelief. The NT informs us that that judgement is His blinding their eyes once they had seen Him and decided Jesus wasn't their Messiah. God did the same thing to pharaoh, he hardened his own heart up until a point and then God let him have his way and made it impossible for him to change his mind...God hardened his heart. (The same "fate" awaits those who turn from the NT scriptures and teach their own thing, God cuts them lose to follow the delusion making it impossible for them to return...Paul called it turning them over to satan)
the last OT book written is malachi, it talks about how the priests despise the name of the Lord and how they are cursed, the people commit idolatry, rob God and doubt His character. "You have wearied the LORD with your words; yet you say, 'In what way have we wearied Him?' In that you say, 'Everyone who does evil is good in the sight of the LORD, and He delights in them,' Or, "Where is the God of justice?'"(mal. 2:17) I'm sorry but that doesn't sound like a very good endorsement for rabbinic interpretation.
love michelle
p.s. I wont take this thread off course any more, Perry. :)
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114
Early Evidence for 1 John 5: 7
by Perry initalic 4th and 5th century.
629 in the 14th century.
429 in the 14th century (margin).
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myelaine
dear designs...
since you said that the rabbis say that isaiah 53:5,8-10 is israel I thought you could explain why. Do you have any thoughts as to why a consistantly female corporate identity would change to a male singular identity? Do you know on what basis the rabbis chose to interpret these verses this way?
" for the transgression of my people he was punished." does this even make sense if the text is talking about corporate israel?
love michelle
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114
Early Evidence for 1 John 5: 7
by Perry initalic 4th and 5th century.
629 in the 14th century.
429 in the 14th century (margin).
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myelaine
dear designs...
throughout the OT israel is portrayed as a woman, God's wife. on what basis would a rabbi interpret isaiah 53:5, 8-10 (which is clearly talking about a man) as israel?
the age of peace that the jews are looking for is when their King comes to usher in His kingdom. The salvation of their God. Doesn't that sound familiar to you? It is the second advent that christians are looking for.
love michelle
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A Story about yourself . . . which isn't true . . . the ART OF LIVING
by Terry inyour consciousness is telling you a story about yourself which isn't true.. *.
you can know it isn't true while accepting it, defending it, and even promoting it.. while trying desperately to control our lives, the one truth we cannot admit to consists of .
declaring our own thoughts uncontrolable.
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myelaine
dear Terry...
you said, "The red herring of forgiving others is the clue we, ourselves, are not who we say we are."...
I don't think it's a red herring, I think it is a litmus test. If the leadership of the JW had really died to themselves and started living for Christ they would forgive. They don't forgive, they pick up the biggest weapon they can find, their "Jehovah".
love michelle
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The Goal of ISIS is to turn the west against Islam and to the capititalise on the backlash that reults from that..
by smiddy inwhile these idiots think beheading innocent aid workers journalists who have the welfare of the people at heart in these circumstances and then butchering them in such a barbaric manner is going to swing public opinion in their favour is beyond me .. if their is ever a reason to go on the ground including going into syria to rid this pox off the face of the earth this is the last straw and needs to be done now.. no more now pussyfooting around with barbaric medieval murderes , go in and annhillilate the bastards.
in the air on the ground and whatever it takes.. smiddy.
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myelaine
Terry...
are you trying to make the point that as christians or, indeed as a civilized nation, we can't grow? We've reached a plateau with the anti-war demonstrations and that was an anomaly...now we are fated to follow the trajectory of our past?
maybe I'm asking the wrong person?
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The Goal of ISIS is to turn the west against Islam and to the capititalise on the backlash that reults from that..
by smiddy inwhile these idiots think beheading innocent aid workers journalists who have the welfare of the people at heart in these circumstances and then butchering them in such a barbaric manner is going to swing public opinion in their favour is beyond me .. if their is ever a reason to go on the ground including going into syria to rid this pox off the face of the earth this is the last straw and needs to be done now.. no more now pussyfooting around with barbaric medieval murderes , go in and annhillilate the bastards.
in the air on the ground and whatever it takes.. smiddy.
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myelaine
Simon...
yes, one life for millions. Jesus "paved the path" to a change of heart for millions of people who might otherwise have chosen "an eye for an eye".
forgiveness is a stronger ideal than retaliation...that's why our justice system is merciful. The west practices forgiveness.
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The Goal of ISIS is to turn the west against Islam and to the capititalise on the backlash that reults from that..
by smiddy inwhile these idiots think beheading innocent aid workers journalists who have the welfare of the people at heart in these circumstances and then butchering them in such a barbaric manner is going to swing public opinion in their favour is beyond me .. if their is ever a reason to go on the ground including going into syria to rid this pox off the face of the earth this is the last straw and needs to be done now.. no more now pussyfooting around with barbaric medieval murderes , go in and annhillilate the bastards.
in the air on the ground and whatever it takes.. smiddy.
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myelaine
The group called ISIS and all the other terrorist groups are heavily indoctrinated to think and do what they do. it is fundamentally wrong to de-humanize people, that is what these terrorist groups do. I find myself sympathizing with their humanity...nothing can undo what they have done but, according to my faith, they can have a change of heart and mind and Jesus paid the price for their sin; a life for a life.