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The best reasonable, rational, intelligent discussion on religion I've ever seen
by TerryWalstrom in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl6e4emx-4k
myelaine

I never said the angels know more than men do...I said that when the mystery of the ages was revealed in Christ, God's angels became aware of the gospel of Christ. They knew what the apostles knew.
ummm...The Gospel was spoken. The angels didn't have to "look into" God's word. We're even told to be hospitable to strangers because they could be God's angels. What do you do with the angel in rev. who preaches the everlasting gospel? Or the angels who rejoice when someone accepts the gospel of salvation?
To those who heard but didn't understand it was said that their heart was veiled...the fallen angels heard but didn't understand either. Thats why some 300 and some years later the jinn in the koran said that they didn't know what was happening...but they admitted that their company had taken divergent paths.
303
The best reasonable, rational, intelligent discussion on religion I've ever seen
by TerryWalstrom in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl6e4emx-4k
myelaine

Because you misinterpret one scripture (saying it says the angels continually desire to look into what was the mystery of Christ) and connect it with another one that isn't even about the gospel but the day and the hour.
you mishandle the text and "lol" because I disagree...wow
303
The best reasonable, rational, intelligent discussion on religion I've ever seen
by TerryWalstrom in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl6e4emx-4k
myelaine

dear JD...
the angels don't know the gospel because they don't know the day or the hour? who do you bridge these two scriptures?
Once Jesus was born in the flesh the angels knew...gabriel announced to mary what was going to take place, angels were at the tomb, revelation has an angel preaching the everlasting gospel and all God's angels know that it is Jesus who is the "head of all principality and power"...up until Christ the prophets AND angels desired to look into what would be the outworking of God's plan...the scripture you quoted doesn't affirm that God's angels are unable (to this day) to look into the gospel. God's angels were able to understand the gospel at the time of Christ, like the apostles they knew the "mystery" because it HAD BEEN revealed in Christ. Now, if the jinn or angels speaking in the koran (which came after the bible) didn't understand the gospel it's reasonable to conclude they are fallen angels in the same camp as those who, if they had known who Jesus was, wouldn't have crucified the Lord of Glory. colossians 2:10, 2:15
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303
The best reasonable, rational, intelligent discussion on religion I've ever seen
by TerryWalstrom in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl6e4emx-4k
myelaine

Daniel 12:1
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303
The best reasonable, rational, intelligent discussion on religion I've ever seen
by TerryWalstrom in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl6e4emx-4k
myelaine

Ezekiel 21:1-16
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303
The best reasonable, rational, intelligent discussion on religion I've ever seen
by TerryWalstrom in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl6e4emx-4k
myelaine

dear JD...
you said, "No... Again you miss the point. As the Quran says itself, it is meant to be taken with the bible. The bible tells Jesus story, the Quran would not retell it because it was already told... I won't say it again.."..."The people of the book are Christians, and what was revealed to them is the New Testament. The Quran has spoken for itself yet again."...

now, this IS interesting...
In the koran it says (there is no indication of whether Allah is relaying the words of the jinn[angels] or whether Allah is speaking for himself. the ones speaking have this to say)
koran 72:1...the jinn hear what is "the koran" and rejoice.
koran 72:10-11...the jinn don't know what God has in store for the earth or whether God even intends to lead them in right conduct...and admit that their "company" take divergent paths.
in the bible God makes it quite clear what His plans are for both the earth and mankind. The only "jinn" that aren't in on the plan are the fallen angels and those they "inspire".
1 corinthians 2:6-10
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303
The best reasonable, rational, intelligent discussion on religion I've ever seen
by TerryWalstrom in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl6e4emx-4k
myelaine

The bible doesn't say adam was perfect...it says he was good. If he was perfect he wouldn't have sinned.
"For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in HIM." 2 cor. 5:21
303
The best reasonable, rational, intelligent discussion on religion I've ever seen
by TerryWalstrom in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl6e4emx-4k
myelaine

The resurrection of the flesh of Jesus...another issue that the koran has skirted.
303
The best reasonable, rational, intelligent discussion on religion I've ever seen
by TerryWalstrom in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl6e4emx-4k
myelaine

But it's not really equal...God NEVER had to "purify" Jesus.
adam's death brought corruption of the flesh too. The flesh became nothing...dust.
Psalm 16:10. Jesus' never saw His flesh become "nothing"...as genetic sons of adam we still see our flesh become nothing. There is inequality between adam and Jesus Christ.
303
The best reasonable, rational, intelligent discussion on religion I've ever seen
by TerryWalstrom in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl6e4emx-4k
myelaine

dear JD...
the koran may say that Christ's death is equal to adam (?) but the bible doesn't say that. The bible says that Jesus is the second adam...buying back what adam lost.
How can the death of Christ be equal to adam when His death on the cross was able to facilitate for mankind the repurchase of ALL that adam lost, including his life?
For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive. 1 Corinthians 15:21

YOU'RE the one stuck in the circular koran argument!!
ie: the koran says this, I believe the koran to be inspired, therefore the koran says this. In my arguments I'm trying to help you see that the koran doesn't say what you'd like to think it says.
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