Posts by myelaine

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Watchman2U - The Inspection & Test is on Jehovah Witnesses.

by Watchman2u in

watchman 2u.

letter one – jehovah witnesses are all accountable who swore an oath to jehovah god at baptism.

you jehovah witnesses in spiritual judea are clinging onto the temple that will not save you.

myelaine

Thank you Watchman2u...

I'm sure that your brothers and sisters appreciate your word to the WTBTS on their behalf. It would be comforting to know that they're not alone with their thoughts.

xo

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We Pass the Bread and the Wine Just like in the Bible! But, why is forbidden to eat?

by lusitano o tuga in

see what bridget azaz did!.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzbe5yo7uq4.

myelaine

Excellent artical about the timeline of early apostacy; who, what, when, why and how.

https://hoshanarabbah.org/blog/2017/04/06/from-a-d-70-to-a-d-135/

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We Pass the Bread and the Wine Just like in the Bible! But, why is forbidden to eat?

by lusitano o tuga in

see what bridget azaz did!.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzbe5yo7uq4.

In a previous post of yours you pasted a writeup about the history of the early church and that customs were attested to by early church fathers. My argument is that it was the wall of seperation between jew and gentile (which paul fought to break down) that occured during that time in the infant church when more people of the gentiles were coming into the church (in leadership roles) that the apostasy happened. So I would suspect that these early church fathers would support the "new way". Remember when moses went up the mountain it only took the israelites about forty days to lose the plot.

the early church met as often as they could but the scripture says that the church went to synagogue to "hear moses"...that is done on the sabbath which means they likely still kept the 7th day sabbath as the sanctified day of rest in addition to meeting other days.

I don't know that breaking bread automatically means passing the elements and not a fellowship meal as paul states that some would show up and eat and drink everything so that others would go away hungry.

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The Pagan Origins of the Memorial Observed by Jehovah’s Witnesses

by David_Jay in

“we don’t celebrate holidays because god doesn’t approve of any celebration that is rooted in pagan customs and manmade traditions.” (see here for a similar jw response.).

if you were once an ex-jw like me, you have probably said something like this out in field service to someone who asked the question: why don’t you people celebrate holidays?

as the witnesses' official website states in an faq about not celebrating easter:.

myelaine

TheWonderofYou...

I don't think any parts of the bible were incorporated into the muslim religion, per se. The koran mentions a few biblical characters but not in a "religious" context...more like name dropping because the whole thrust of the biblical message of redemption was lost on mohammad. The koran is all about OBEY, OBEY, OBEY...or else you're toast!!

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The Pagan Origins of the Memorial Observed by Jehovah’s Witnesses

by David_Jay in

“we don’t celebrate holidays because god doesn’t approve of any celebration that is rooted in pagan customs and manmade traditions.” (see here for a similar jw response.).

if you were once an ex-jw like me, you have probably said something like this out in field service to someone who asked the question: why don’t you people celebrate holidays?

as the witnesses' official website states in an faq about not celebrating easter:.

myelaine

Wow David_Jay...

you've been over quite a twisted path. It seems you're in a better place in your life now. I'm happy for you.

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We Pass the Bread and the Wine Just like in the Bible! But, why is forbidden to eat?

by lusitano o tuga in

see what bridget azaz did!.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzbe5yo7uq4.

myelaine

Thank you for being candid, waton. It's possible that neither of our respective beliefs are tangental to the discussion anyway.

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We Pass the Bread and the Wine Just like in the Bible! But, why is forbidden to eat?

by lusitano o tuga in

see what bridget azaz did!.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzbe5yo7uq4.

myelaine

I'm not sure what you mean? A passing reference to Passover in the account in Acts? If so, ALL of God's feasts were important and Passover/Feast of Unleavened Bread fell together in the calendar year so I don't know if the Passover would have been given prominence over the other. They were remembered together in the eyes of the nation. The disciples were jewish and had a jewish world view not a contemporary "christian" worldview (as modern christians consider Easter and Christmas huge in their world view) things have changed in the church a whack in the last 1900 years.

❤️

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We Pass the Bread and the Wine Just like in the Bible! But, why is forbidden to eat?

by lusitano o tuga in

see what bridget azaz did!.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzbe5yo7uq4.

myelaine

It is true that mainstream christianity has taken the pagan holiday "Easter" mentioned in Acts and commandeered it for the celebration of the resurrection of Christ BUT there is no biblical mandate to do so. I am somewhat conflicted about the Easter celebration, myself. The resurrection of the Lord is the most awesome thing to happen!!! but scripture AND Jesus teaches that the sacrifice is the event to be remembered. I give and accept grace where this is the concern :)

xo

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We Pass the Bread and the Wine Just like in the Bible! But, why is forbidden to eat?

by lusitano o tuga in

see what bridget azaz did!.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzbe5yo7uq4.

myelaine

dear waton...

I'm so glad you mentioned that!

It turns out that in their effort to discard any whiff of mainstream christianity, the WTBTS fudged their personal "translation" from the KJ bible. Reading from the NWT we read the account in Acts 12:3 it says that Herod imprisoned Peter during the Days of Unleavened Bread (which falls AFTER Passover) and then in Acts 12:4 it says that Herod planned on releasing Peter to the people AFTER Passover. The KJ bible says Easter...not Passover. The reason for this is because it wasn't Passover that was celebrated, it was the pagan festival of Easter/Eastre godess of dawn (not to be confused with what mainstream christianity celebrates now as Easter. ie: the resurrection of Christ)

So, Peter did not come upon the disciples celebrating Passover, because it was over...not because it wasn't celebrated any longer.

love michelle

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We Pass the Bread and the Wine Just like in the Bible! But, why is forbidden to eat?

by lusitano o tuga in

see what bridget azaz did!.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzbe5yo7uq4.

myelaine

What I find most hypocritical of the WTBTS is their insistence that the apostasy began shortly after the death of the last apostle and yet they cling to some apostate teachings.

There is evidence in the bible that the 1st century christians kept the torah just as Jesus and the apostles did including the 7th day sabbath. (If that had changed at all then there would have been some mention of it at the Jerusalem council but, there wasn't. There is biblical evidence that the Saturday Sabbath was kept.) In fact it was after the death of the apostles that the proto-Catholic Church decreed that the Sabbath instituted and sanctified by God would be, by their authority, changed to Sunday. Christians maintained the Saturday Sabbath until it became "uncomfortable" to be seen as showing any kind of Jewishness because of the persecution of the Jews by Rome. "At that time, Sunday was the rest day of the Roman Empire, whose religion was Mithraism, a form of sun worship. Since Sabbath observance is visible to others, some christians in the early second century sought to distance themselves from Judaism by observing a different day, thus 'blending in' to the society around them."

Constantine, who was a sun worshipper, legalized christianity and made the first Sunday-keeping law in AD 313. He enforced this law in the now "christian" empire in AD 321. "On the venerable Day of the Sun let the magistrates and people residing in the cities rest, and let all workshops be closed." (Codex Justinianus 3.12.3, trans. Philip Schaff, History of the Christian Church, 5th ed. (New York 1905), 3:380, note 1.) the Sunday law was confirmed at the Council of Laodicea in AD 364.

In their OWN Passover dogma as well as their continued adherence to apostate Sunday worship they certainly DO make the word of God void by their traditions of men. Boo...