Posts by Magick

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Poor Excuse for an Apostate

by Mum in

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when i tell anyone i am considered an apostate, they usually think i'm joking and fall over laughing.

after thinking about it, i can understand why.

my lifestyle would prompt a farmyard chicken to take up another interest.

what movie best discribes you sex life??

by karter in

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gone in 60 secounds

Leaving a Cult~Recovery

by purplesofa in

the information on the internet is very abundant about the watchtower and all its dirty little secrets.

all the information is out there, exposing what they don't want us to know.

past research has been done`` so now its much easier to present it to those willing to listen.

i will use myself as an example. i am currently in the throes of deep depression. i do not have the desire nor the energy to live let alone recover. i have no support system. i have no religion. i have no god.

i didn't come equipped with the tools to handle this life changing event. i don't want to be around people. i'm cranky, and sad and crying...i sleep when i'm supposed to be awake and am awake when i'm supposed to be sleeping.

my 30+ years as a jw have a strong hold on my mind. complete negativity. try engaging cognitive behavioral therapy with a jw mindset. almost impossible.

i lack the tools for socialization. i am intelligent yet have an extremly low self-esteem. i crave love yet i do not love myself.

i know what i am experiencing at present are only feelings and biological chemicals. i understand intellectually that this will pass. emotionally is another story.

i have pretty much layed down and surrendered to death. choking on the dust and lack of oxygen of being buried alive.

i have no desire to go to another church. i want to dance around the fire in the woods naked while chanting to the animal spirits...but, no one does that around here.

i am so lonley and alone i am screaming on the inside.i am immobilized.i lack motivation to wash a dish let alone recover from 30 years of brainwashing.

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Whats under The Scotsman's kilt??????

by The Scotsman in

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http://www.greatscotshop.com/images/cardgreatscotkilt.gif.

feeling a bit cheeky!!!

.

Magick

my first picture made little babies cry

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You have three wishes

by John Doe in

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no wishing for more wishes.

no wishing to know what to wish for.

i, the genie, have the authority to grant your wish or not to grant your wish as i so choose.

Magick

since my wishes were completely ignored

and i actually have the power to grant my own wishes

i wish that john doe disappears for at least a second

my wish is granted

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Whats under The Scotsman's kilt??????

by The Scotsman in

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http://www.greatscotshop.com/images/cardgreatscotkilt.gif.

feeling a bit cheeky!!!

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Magick

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What's Your View of Spiritism Now???

by minimus in

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of course, as witnesses, everything was possibly "demonized".

if you got anything second hand, you could be in demon trouble.

if you saw a horror movie or read anything by stephen king, you were inviting the demons to you.

Magick

if someone is constantly telling you to watch out for the boogie man...you're gonna sleep with the lights on and make sure you're foot isn't poking over the side.

jws put so much emphasis on the negative and so much emphasis on demons. it's almost as if they manifested them to prove their point.

since leaving the jws, i've opened myself up to the possibility of other life forms existing besides the physical. if you don't have a closed mind...or one focused on negativity...there is a lot to see.

children are more likely to see spiritual things because they haven't been taught they don't exist yet...or that it is wrong.

contrary to jw belief, humans are more than just physical beings. there is something inside that keeps our physical bodies alive. this something is the same thing for animals.

whether you call it a spirit, a soul, energy, life force...a fan? it exists.

there is a high probability that this part of us remains when our physical body is gone. it could go back "to the god who gave it" or not.

there are different types of spirit energies. some positive. some negative. some strong. some weak.

whatever your belief we all have experienced our thoughts as having energy or life. if we think negativly, negative things are drawn to us.

or if we think of others...the spirit part of us connects. "i was just thinking about you" "i picked up the phone to call you...and you were there" "i called you because i felt i had to"

since animals have spirit energy too...this works with animals as well. if we focus on what we don't want them to do...that's what they do...because our energy is directing them there. (same with children)

why do jws always have demon stories? because that is what they are putting their energy in to.

what i see now is that spiritism is just being aware that spirits or energies of beings that do not have a human body exist.

a person who is receptive will be aware they are not alone.

just like you can attract people or push people out of your life by your personality. you can also attract or push away spirit energy.

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You have three wishes

by John Doe in

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no wishing for more wishes.

no wishing to know what to wish for.

i, the genie, have the authority to grant your wish or not to grant your wish as i so choose.

Magick

wish one: to be me @ 16 again

wish two: to start over but keep my experience & knowledge and lose the brainwashing

wish three: this time to live around happy, well-adjusted people

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Taking responsiblity for our Recovery

by purplesofa in

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do you think you are responsible for you own recovery?.

what warning signs are present when you go to a different plan?.

do you really think you can heal from the jw expericance?.

Magick

today, i feel just like HH.

i am tired and broken. i am stuck.

i had moved on or so i thought. i want to dissasociate myself, but why give them the satisfaction.

i want to celebrate halloween. but, who wants to dress up alone?

i can't sleep at night. i sleep all day.

i don't have a religion.

i am in therapy and am supposed to think positive thoughts.

i cry in therapy. mostly because i am lonely. the nice lady can't understand. she was never a jw.

i was conditioned to be perfect. now nothing in my life including me is perfect. so, i am useless.

i don't clean my house anymore. no one sees it.

i don't call anyone. no one wants to talk to me.

i want to take responsibility for recovery. but, i'm too tired.

i have gained weight. i have gotten older. i'm sadder.

years have past since i went to a meeting. i can't get passed it. i can't move on because I don't know what to move on to.

every day without someone who loves me is two more days until i'm dead.

i am in slow motion and the world is spinning. the grass grows at warped speed. things rust.

i want to laugh again but life's sound is turned off.

Are Natural Disasters God's Wrath? ~ Yes, No, Yes ~

by Magick in

according to the bible... natural disasters are god's wrath the lord is a jealous god, filled with vengeance and wrath.

he takes revenge on all who oppose him and furiously destroys his enemies!

the lord is slow to get angry, but his power is great, and he never lets the guilty go unpunished.

Magick

According to the Bible...

Natural Disasters are God's Wrath

The LORD is a jealous God, filled with vengeance and wrath. He takes revenge on all who oppose him and furiously destroys his enemies! The LORD is slow to get angry, but his power is great, and he never lets the guilty go unpunished. He displays his power in the whirlwind and the storm. The billowing clouds are the dust beneath his feet. At his command the oceans and rivers dry up, the lush pastures of Bashan and Carmel fade, and the green forests of Lebanon wilt. In his presence the mountains quake, and the hills melt away; the earth trembles, and its people are destroyed. Who can stand before his fierce anger? Who can survive his burning fury? His rage blazes forth like fire, and the mountains crumble to dust in his presence. The LORD is good. When trouble comes, he is a strong refuge. And he knows everyone who trusts in him. But he sweeps away his enemies in an overwhelming flood. He pursues his foes into the darkness of night. (Nahum 1:2-8 NLT)

When I read this scripture...I got this image of a nerdy boy with glasses throwing a temper tantrum over his ant farm for getting out of hand...shaking it fiercely, using a blow dryer on them and then pouring a pitcher of scalding hot water in their plexi-glass house to drown them all.

Are natural disasters evidence of god's wrath?

hmmm The Watchtower says yes, no and yes.

God caused Floods, darkness, droughts and storms in bible times...but, today it's stuff that humans have done to the earth that reek havoc...but, in the future, god will get mad again and manipulate natural forces.

I see this type of ill-logic a lot in watchtower-ology. "Angels performed miracles in bible times, but not our time, and will again" "people spoke in tongues in bible times, but not our time, but we will speak a pure language in the future." ect.

The Watchtower says:

Is God really responsible for the disasters that bring so much human suffering and loss around the world? Is he to blame?
YES: Not only is Jehovah the Creator of natural forces but he also has the power to control them. Throughout the Bible we find accounts of Jehovah?s controlling or manipulating such forces to accomplish his purpose. These include the parting of the Red Sea in Moses? day and the halting of the sun and moon in their paths across the heavens in the time of Joshua. (Exodus 14:21-28; Joshua 10:12, 13) Jesus Christ, the Son of God and the promised Messiah, also demonstrated his power over natural forces as, for instance, when he calmed a storm on the Sea of Galilee. (Mark 4:37-39) Accounts like these leave no doubt that Jehovah God and his Son, Jesus Christ, can fully control all that affects life here on earth.?2 Chronicles 20:6; Jeremiah 32:17; Matthew 19:26.
NO: That being the case, can we hold God responsible for the increased havoc and devastation that have resulted from natural disasters in recent times? To answer this question, we must first consider whether there is evidence that the forces of nature have recently become dramatically more violent, perhaps even out of control. In this regard, note what the book Natural Disasters?Acts of God or Acts of Man? has to say: "There is no evidence that the climatological mechanisms associated with droughts, floods and cyclones are changing. And no geologist is claiming that the earth movements associated with earthquakes, volcanoes and tsunami (earthquake waves) are becoming more violent." What, then, accounts for the increase in the frequency and destructiveness of natural disasters that we read about? If the forces of nature (God, Jesus) are not to blame, the finger of guilt seems to point to the human element. And, indeed, authorities have recognized that human activities have made our environment both more prone to natural disasters and more vulnerable to them.
YES: God will take action to rid the earth of wickedness and suffering. --WT93 pg. 34 Natural Disasters?Is God Responsible? A far greater storm approaches, one that will encompass the entire inhabited earth. No one will be able to elude it or be unaffected by it. Titanic, awe-inspiring forces will be loosed at that time, dwarfing any yet experienced by man. This storm is Armageddon. Jehovah, rising up to defend his people, brings terror to the hearts of the wicked. The battle at Armageddon is on! Governments collapse, fiery showers strike the earth, tidal waves, upheavals of earth, cloudbursts, electrical storms, burning missiles all strike down Satan?s visible hordes. In sheer horror, every man?s hand is turned against his neighbor in a frenzied, selfish fight for survival, all in vain; for Jeremiah long ago declared: "And those slain by Jehovah will certainly come to be in that day from one end of the earth clear to the other end of the earth. They will not be bewailed, neither will they be gathered up or be buried. As manure on the surface of the ground they will become."?Zech. 14:12, 13; Jer. 25:33. --WT60 pg. 21 The Gathering Storm of Armageddon