hello, i asked a new but old friend how many people are still christians after leaving the watchtower's mind control agency, for statistical purposes do you mind if i do a survey and see how many of you are believers?.
please don't post if your not a believer out of respect for this poll, we need to sharpen each other's sword and help build each other up and meet new friends over the internet with faith in god or some other force of the universe.
i asked another person how we can still manage our faith after getting burned by the high group mind control, he had a few ideas but he's not really involved with god because of how life burned him.
Cofty - sorry new to the forum so not sure how I quote you on my phone.
anyway in response to you question what books I've read on evolution, not many books cover to cover, I have however studies it in great detail from research papers as part of my medical science degree at Edinburgh university. One of my courses focused on the origin and diversity of life. The first lecturer got up and said "as a result of your studies this year many of you will loose your faith"
hello, i asked a new but old friend how many people are still christians after leaving the watchtower's mind control agency, for statistical purposes do you mind if i do a survey and see how many of you are believers?.
please don't post if your not a believer out of respect for this poll, we need to sharpen each other's sword and help build each other up and meet new friends over the internet with faith in god or some other force of the universe.
i asked another person how we can still manage our faith after getting burned by the high group mind control, he had a few ideas but he's not really involved with god because of how life burned him.
I was never a baptised witness but did attend the Kingdom Hall and was in a relationship with a baptised witness for 3 years. It got to the point where we wanted to get married and she as good as said its not going to happen unless you become a committed witness. I never got 1914 it just never made sense to me but I always though by your fruits will you know them and no other group was preaching as much - well that's how I saw it at the time. I prayed for several days about it and couldn't get two scriptures out of my mind. When Jesus said "I am the way the truth and the life, no man comes to the father but my me" - so Jesus is the way, he doesn't have a way (theocratic organisation), the other is in Hosea where Jehovah said "there is no other saviour besides me" ironically I'd never believed in the trinity before praying about committing to JW.org
I would definitely consider myself Christian and for those who say atheism is the only logical conclusion.
Explain how the first living cell came into being using the laws of thermodynamics. Especially the second "things tend towards disorder." (I do accept evolution in terms of speciation or microevolution, I see macroevolution as little better than a semi-intellectual guess)
Also explain morality, and I don't mean self preservation or herd instinct but how and why we choose between these often opposing instincts.
also you of-course by not believing the historical narrative of the bible have to stop believing in every historical account from the time period because on pure historicity the bible blows everything else out of the water.
Also when's the last time you looked up at the sky and believed it was all created by chance?
so i have gotten into arguements with my wife in the past about this cult.
now a days after reading steve hassan books...i just try and avoid anything jdub with her.
try to keep her in authentic mode..(not sure she really has one).
Can we take credit for a gift God has given us?
Ephesians 2:
"8 you have been saved through faith, and this is not of your own doing; rather, it is God’s gift. 9 No, it is not a result of works, so that no one should have grounds for boasting. 10 We are God’s handiwork and were created in union with Christ Jesus for good works, which God determined in advance for us to walk in them."
If we therefor say that our good deeds increase our faith that's a bit like saying the fruit of a tree causes the roots to grow.
