Posts by MerryMagdalene

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Rutherford Exposed: The Story of Berta and Bonnie

by Farkel in

it was made by a women who in later years wore crotchless panties and bras which had holes in the nipple areas.

he not only knew the woman in question (she's now deceased), he has met her numerous times.

up until recently this secret of her year's long sexual affair with rutherford was kept by the family.

MerryMagdalene

I sure am looking forward to that!!! I am so tired of dead-ending every which way I turn. Or finding out really interesting stuff about peripheral characters that don't (yet) connect up to our main characters in viably meaningful ways.

If anyone is curious about such things, though, you can take these side roads through some power-and-money territory involving the president of Producers Oil Company (the company August H Balko, Jr was working for in the 1910 census), Walter Benona Sharp, who was a partner of Howard Hughes, Sr in a couple ventures:

http://www.rice.edu/fondren/woodson/mss/ms271.html

Sharp's son, Walter Bedford Sharp, married Patti Lummis and the Lummis family was related to the Rice family, and it was Ella Botts Rice that was Howard Hughes, Jr's first wife. His other son, Dudley Crawford Sharp had an early school friend by the name of James A Baker III whose long-time law partner was William Rice Lummis, administrator of Howard Hughes, Jr's estate over which people were still fighting as late as 1997. And one source said that the Sharp-Hughes Tool Company, which became the Hughes Tool Company after Sharp died in 1912, is now known as Enron.

http://www.ruf.rice.edu/~rhs/corner/fall95.html

http://www.willgriffin.com/apparent.htm http://www.willgriffin.com/hughes.htm

http://www.businessweek.com/1997/43/b3550076.htm

http://www.alternet.org/story/20012/

http://txdepot.railfan.net/Lagrange.html

Also, Judge James A Baker (the first) represented the infamous railroad robber baron, Jay Gould, in court, and Jay Gould had control of the railroad that August Balko, Jr likely worked for in 1920, La Grange, Texas (but that was some time after Gould had been ousted from the MK & T. So, as I said, I know the connections don't really mean anything for us here but it has been an interesting history lesson for me.

Looking forward to what comes next!

--Merry

p.s.-- does anyone know anything about Joe Isaac (poss.alt.sp. Isaacs, Isaack, Isaacks, Isaacke)? Covington said he was a great friend of the Judge and lived in Houston, Texas.

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Name Things That "Prove" JWs Have The "Truth".

by minimus in

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....this could be interesting.....

MerryMagdalene

*They are hated and persecuted by absolutely everyone (and this, by the way, has absolutely nothing to do with them seperating themselves as Godz Chozen Emissariez, refusing to participate in almost everything there is to participate in, constantly trying to draw attention to how much better and more blessed they are than everyone else while they try to sweep all evidence to the contrary under the rug, calling other religious organizations Whore, Harlot, a snare and a racket, pointing out everyone else's faults while minimizing their own, and basically being the most obnoxious and least fun little group on the playground).

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Prepare for the End Times !!!

by Brownboy in

revelations 17:12 (november 1st)

?and the ten horns that you saw mean ten kings, who have not yet received a kingdom, but they do receive authority as kings one hour with the wild beast.

these have one thought, and so they give their power and authority to the wild beast.

MerryMagdalene

I feel rather sad reading your posts, Brownboy. I wish you much peace and healing.

Judeo-Christian teachings can really mess with peoples' heads, hearts, and lives, and seem to me to do little more than prey upon their weaknesses, fears, desires, and instabilities.

The rest of you might appreciate this site: http://www.insolitology.com although some of what they listed made me feel this same sort of sadness, especially the Time Cube guy

--Merry

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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 10-24-04 WT Study

by blondie in

comments you will not hear at the october 24, 2004 wt study (september 15, 2004 issue)

review comments will be in black and parentheses ().

wt quotes will be in red and quotes "".

MerryMagdalene

I am SO looking forward to next week's review. Not just anyone can get away with putting on "the complete suit of armor" Roman-style. But perhaps they have become forward thinking enough to allow room for a certain amount of individual choice in such matters...(sisters, once again, will be afforded slightly less protection. sorry. and children? forget about it. no junior's sizes available. so what's new?)

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"Don't Believe Everything You Think"

by MerryMagdalene in

i recently saw the above on a bumpersticker and it seemed to express very succinctly something i have been experiencing in seeking out new info for farkel's berta & bonnie thread... i find myself stumbling across intriguing bits and pieces of decades old information and i get to thinking "wouldn't it be amazing if this person was connected in such and such a way with that person?

" and "if this is true then it might mean that..." and on and on.

i get very caught up in investigating and theorizing and, suddenly, the amazing tapestry i have been weaving in my head comes unravelled when one more bit of information comes to light and disproves the whole thing.

MerryMagdalene

Hello there--

I recently saw the above on a bumpersticker and it seemed to express very succinctly something I have been experiencing in seeking out new info for Farkel's Berta & Bonnie thread... I find myself stumbling across intriguing bits and pieces of decades old information and I get to thinking "Wouldn't it be amazing if this person was connected in such and such a way with that person?" and "If this is true then it might mean that..." and on and on. I get very caught up in investigating and theorizing and, suddenly, the amazing tapestry I have been weaving in my head comes unravelled when one more bit of information comes to light and disproves the whole thing. Terrible disappointment. Into the scrap heap. Then on goes the search.

Realizing this made it seem very likely to me that this is at least partly what happens when people try to investigate and interpret ancient holy books which seem to me to contain only jumbled up fragments of early beliefs and practices, contibruted throughout the centuries by a variety of people (kinda like the internet now). Elaborate theories and personal interpretations are continuously created and recreated by persons with varying degrees of intellectual capacity and imagination and with a variety of motives, good and bad. Then organizations are founded on a belief in what someone thinks is true and those beliefs must be perpetuated and protected at all costs or else all that passionate fabrication is for nothing.

That's my take on it at the moment. I don't think that there is anything wrong with such investigations in either case and they can actually be of great benefit as long as we can keep in mind the importance of not believing everything we think no matter how beautifully constructed and not labeling everything we think as truth, honoring everyone's freedom to learn and explore. People might be able that in groups but I'm not so sure they can in organizations, if that makes any sense.

Whatever your personal quests I hope they are as educational and inspiring as mine have been since coming to JWD !

--Merry

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Dolls/Stuffed animals.... what's your opinion?

by outbutnotdown in

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i had my two girls with me today.

they were as beautiful and loving and caring as ever.. they each had their own favorite dolls that they cared for much like i care/d for them.

it was beautiful to watch!!!!!!!!.

MerryMagdalene

Brad--

Love what you love. Take your peace and serenity wherever you can find it. Growing up doesn't have to mean growing out of absolutely everything associated with the joys and comforts of childhood... Does it? I never liked dolls much, but I adore stuffed animals and action figures and collectibles. So does my daughter, but sometimes I think that at least some of what I buy or make for her is, to some extent, also for me. That goes for movies, too. Share the joy !

--Merry

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The damn Egyptians liked way older women

by gumby in

buncha damn dirty old men i tell ya!.

that's right.....pharaoh liked 70 year old women and so did his buddies ( princes).

gen. chap.12 tells us when abraham entered egypt, the egyptians beheld the woman( sarah ), was "very fair".

MerryMagdalene

Gumby--The Munsters had Grampa...Grandmama was a member of the Addam's Family. And when those two got together, they could TANGO !!! Seriously, I have no doubt Grandmama and ol' Sarai herself knew a few tricks the younger chicks didn't and could make any man walk like an ee - gyp - shun

Here's a pic (courtesy of The Bible Story Book) of Pharoah dreaming of his Sarai...

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Rutherford Exposed: The Story of Berta and Bonnie

by Farkel in

it was made by a women who in later years wore crotchless panties and bras which had holes in the nipple areas.

he not only knew the woman in question (she's now deceased), he has met her numerous times.

up until recently this secret of her year's long sexual affair with rutherford was kept by the family.

MerryMagdalene

Leolaia (and any one else researching this whose "names" I don't know)--

I don't know if these 2 tidbits will help the search or not but...

1) There was an A.J. Boyd living in Washington County, Iowa sometime between 1902 and 1924 according to the papers of Charles A. Dewey (State of Iowa -vs- A.J. Boyd). www.lib.uiowa.edu/spec_coll/MSC/ToMsc150/MsC103/MsC103-dewey.html

2) Back to August Balko Jr.-- he would most likely been working as a clerk for the Missouri, Kansas & Texas Railway in La Grange, Texas 1920 as that was the RR in operation there at the time (the depot is now a video store). It was also known as "the Katy Railroad" and, after 1922, as the M-K-T (Missouri-Kansas-Texas Railroad).

I am also trying to trace out a possible Boyd family Iowa to Texas connection through these two names:

(1) Samuel F Boyd (wife: Caroline) who worked in Davenport, Scott Co., Iowa as Division Passenger Agent in 1910 for the Chicago, Rock Island & Texas Railway Company. It is said that the village of Boyd, Minnesota, La Qui Parie Co., was named for him when he was General Ticket Agent there for Minneapolis and St. Louis Railway System before going to Iowa. He is also said to have had at least one daughter, name(s) as yet unknown, and to have died in Iowa.

(2) H.S. Boyd, a railway executive with the CRI & T for whom the city of Boyd, Texas, Wise Co., was named around 1894-95. The CRI & T is also known as the Rock Island line. It was controlled by Jay Gould from 1873 - 1888 (when he was "ousted").

I haven't found any connection between this RR and the M-K-T (as I was half hoping). I don't yet know if these two men were related to each other or if it is just another coincidence that they worked for the same RR company and both had towns named after them. And I also don't yet know whether they were or weren't somehow connected to Bonnie Boyd, but I'm working on it. If anyone wants to join in...welcome !

-- the more the Merry-er

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In "The Truth"?

by rockhound in

while at assemblies we would often see friends" in the truth", and one of the questions they would almost always ask is, are your kids still "in the truth"?

it seemed the thing to ask, with so many falling away from" the truth".

reflecting on that expression "in the truth" i think that most witneses feel as i did, that the watchtower had pretty much cornered the market on "truth" from god's word, hence the feeling that if we stayed close the the watchtower organization, we without doubt had,or were in, or were closely associated with "the truth" .

MerryMagdalene

Heathen,

That must be why they said "any new book by the organization." Very important not to get the old light/past truth mixed up with the new light/present truth because then things become very confusing...or is that clear?

Crimeny!

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letter from mom/letter to mom

by MerryMagdalene in

if anybody feels up to wading through what follows and giving me any feedback on it, i would really appreciate it, but, if not, that's cool too.... letter from mom (9/29/04):.

my dear one,.

i guess you know no one on earth is as dear to me as you.

MerryMagdalene

Another update...

Mom finally answered the letter I posted here, plus another more casual, newsy one I wrote afterward. I received it Saturday. It was very short, completely ignored all the issues I raised, and simply said that I had taken away the last bit of hope she had that I would one day return to Jehovah and his "loving organization" and she would honor my wishes that she not share her religious beliefs with my daughter.

She also said that because she agrees with my being disfellowshipped, she will now treat me the way DFed people are supposed to be treated, so next time she comes to see her granddaughter maybe I could just busy myself with something else and not talk to her while she is at my house!!! (Who's disfellowshipped here? Me not talk to her?) Sorry, but I'm not playing that game!!!

I love her and my daughter adores her, but WTB&TS beliefs permeate every fiber of her being. I don't see how she will be able to fulfill her promise, especially as my daughter gets older. What is she going to do when the wee one chatters on happily about birthday parties (one of her favorite topics right now) and other life-affirming celebrations we indulge in? What about when it starts seeming a little odd that mommy and grammy very politely never speak to each other? Can't do it. Gotta find another way.

Thanks for letting me share my dilemmas with you. Thanks for caring. All my best to everyone out there going through the same or similar.

--Merry