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  Catholics are right if the Trinity is right

  by stillajwexelder in

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  if jesus is god then mary is the mother of god so the roman catholics are correct

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  Midget-Sasquatch

  Now what if Jesus were God, but came down only in the appearance of man, and not in the same fleshly materialistic body of the rest of us? The mortal Mary wouldn't be Mother of God in that case.
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  Evolutionary establishment tactics

  by hooberus in

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  wednesday evenings (august 24th) fox news program "the oreilly factor" featured an interview life after "intelligent design" with dr. richard sternberg, editor, of the peer-reviewed journal "proceedings of the biological society of washington.

  " dr. sternberg's home page discusses the recriminations he faced by certain members of the evolutionary establishment after publishing an arcticle by another person advocating the possibilty of intelligent design in the peer reviewed journal.

  http://www.rsternberg.net/

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  Midget-Sasquatch

  hooberus,

  Here is one (from ReMine):
  
  An intelligent designer is necessary for the origin of life from non-life.
  
  This is potentially falsifiable (for example by a demonstration that nautral processes are sufficient to account for life from non-life).

  Now thats the kind of hypothesis one can work with! I like that example.

  I also find it interesting that the subject of that particular hypothesis is in the field of abiogenesis. A field where, for now at least, there's relatively scant concrete information or data on which to test any hypotheses. I dare say thats why there are so many different naturalistic scenarios for the emergence of life, offered up by scientists --- not enough data collected to draw a valid conclusion on them. Yep, alot of properly formed hypotheses can stand unfalsified for now.

  What about the subject of evolution though (where we have a good deal more information)? Are there any falsifiable hypotheses put forward by IDers that I'm unaware of? I'll admit I haven't read much of their material

  then the resulting exclusion of ID arcticles from appearing in them should not then be presented as a some sort of evidence against ID (since ID is being excluded on methodological/philosophical grounds,
  rather than solely on data/evidence).

  I agree with you there. "Reality" shouldn't be just what any one "authority" holds it out to be, but on whats out there. I do believe though that ID has been assessed by scientists based on the data currently on hand. The whole idea is to reinfe and expand our understanding. I wonder: Are ID articles really excluded a priori, or do they simply not pass muster according to Occam's Razor? Here's what I mean. Regarding evolution, is an intelligent designer even needed, if one can see evidence for a process that mimics intelligence? (i.e. natural selection)?

  Probably should be getting off to bed.....maybe in a few more hours. Anyways you have a good one hooberus.
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  Do any Bible passages/stories make you emotional or cry

  by Cygnus in

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  absalom, a complete asshole, met an untimely death, and even though he caused untold trouble to his father, david still wept bitterly over his son, 'absalom,oh my son absalom!

  " that one still gets to me.. and at the end of one of rush's more emotional songs, distant early warning (1984), geddy calls out "absalom!

  absalom!

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  Midget-Sasquatch

  I've always liked the one about the woman who was going to be stoned for adultery in John 8:1-11

  7. When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them,
  "Let anyone among you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her."
  8. And once again he bent down and wrote on the ground.
  9. When they heard it, they went away, one by one, beginning with the elders;
  and Jesus was left alone with the woman standing before him.
  10. Jesus straightened up and said to her, "Woman, where are they? Has no one
  condemned you?"
  11 . She said, "No one, sir." And Jesus said, "Neither do I condemn you.
  Go your way, and from now on do not sin again."

  In religion class, we were also once told that, according to tradition, what Jesus was writing on the ground were the very sins of those that were ready to stone her.
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  Anyone read Da Vinci Code?

  by ESTEE in

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  has anyone read da vinci code?

  love and light,.

  estee

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  Midget-Sasquatch

  I had mixed thoughts on it. While the cloak and dagger aspect of it was a draw for me, there were too many mistakes that I was aware of that spoiled it a good deal.

  Not too long ago, I checked out a book from the library that pointed out all the historical mistakes having to do with scriptures and beliefs about Christ. It was an easy and very quick read. The author was Bart Ehrman. Here's the book:

  http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0195181409/102-9577673-8900948?v=glance

  I'd also check out his other books like Lost Christianities which I found very informative and (very important to me) easy to understand.
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  Similarities between Catholics and Jehovah's Witnesses!

  by inquirer in

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  http://www.bible.ca/jw-catholic.htm .

  -- great site in general check it out!

  1. centralized world-wide church government from which all official doctrine comes.

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  Midget-Sasquatch

  inquirer
  

  I agree that there are quite a bit of similarities in hierarchy and the way the leadership makes themselves an integral medium for the individual's salvation. My only quibble was with comparing the two on the idea of "progressive revelation". Only because I think it shows the degree of intellectually honesty or dishonesty. Catholicism has been quite constant with their doctrines. We all know the WTS' track record.

  I can't believe I'm agreeing that there's one thing on which the WTS is more liberal than the RC!

  Well, at least the JW's are allowed to wear condoms.

  I'm sure alot of people wouldn't quibble if the pope got "new light" about that.

  ithinkisee

  That quote from Paul Johnson's book was perfect and eerie.
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  Similarities between Catholics and Jehovah's Witnesses!

  by inquirer in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  http://www.bible.ca/jw-catholic.htm .

  -- great site in general check it out!

  1. centralized world-wide church government from which all official doctrine comes.

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  Midget-Sasquatch

  Both spew "New Light"?

  Alright give me all the examples from Roman Catholicism that you can come up with. Bear in mind they've been around for nearly two millenia. Even if you could come up with a handful, wouldn't that be like comparing a dripping faucet to a gushing fountain?
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  Evolutionary establishment tactics

  by hooberus in

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  wednesday evenings (august 24th) fox news program "the oreilly factor" featured an interview life after "intelligent design" with dr. richard sternberg, editor, of the peer-reviewed journal "proceedings of the biological society of washington.

  " dr. sternberg's home page discusses the recriminations he faced by certain members of the evolutionary establishment after publishing an arcticle by another person advocating the possibilty of intelligent design in the peer reviewed journal.

  http://www.rsternberg.net/

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  Midget-Sasquatch

  hooberus

  There shouldn't be any bias in scientific journals. I wholeheartedly agree with you on that. Having agendas doesn't have to mean a loss in all objectivity though. The scientific agenda I was thinking about was its trying to explain nature on strictly material processes and phenomena, without calling upon supernatural forces. IDers have a competing agenda to show a need for a supernatural creator.

  Of course new ideas should be allowed an opportunity to make there case. Seeing as how that article didn't even mention relevant evidence for the side of the issue being criticized (just to make the other side appear stronger?), I'd say it did a poor job of being an objective and analytical review. Also the arguments for the ID side didn't include any falsifiable material. It wouldn't be biased to keep that article from being printed until the pertinent changes were made.
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  Evolutionary establishment tactics

  by hooberus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  wednesday evenings (august 24th) fox news program "the oreilly factor" featured an interview life after "intelligent design" with dr. richard sternberg, editor, of the peer-reviewed journal "proceedings of the biological society of washington.

  " dr. sternberg's home page discusses the recriminations he faced by certain members of the evolutionary establishment after publishing an arcticle by another person advocating the possibilty of intelligent design in the peer reviewed journal.

  http://www.rsternberg.net/

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  Midget-Sasquatch

  IYou're right AA. He didn't make a sound editorial decision for that journal, even going so far as to put forward a competing agenda. And as AlanF has posted, he abused his position to do so. He really circumvented the self-checking mechanism thats supposed to be the heart of the process.

  Also as a review article, it should have presented the best and strongest evidence each side of the issue has to offer. It didn't do that. It chose to ignore some very good evidence against the editor's pet view. That was a failure in a key function for such an article and, as I see it, reason enough to not having it published as it was. I'd really like to know who were the peer reviewers and if their expertise included the Cambrian taxa. Poor choices as reviewers, but understandable if they had a vested interest in seeing that article published as well.
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  Evolutionary establishment tactics

  by hooberus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  wednesday evenings (august 24th) fox news program "the oreilly factor" featured an interview life after "intelligent design" with dr. richard sternberg, editor, of the peer-reviewed journal "proceedings of the biological society of washington.

  " dr. sternberg's home page discusses the recriminations he faced by certain members of the evolutionary establishment after publishing an arcticle by another person advocating the possibilty of intelligent design in the peer reviewed journal.

  http://www.rsternberg.net/

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  Midget-Sasquatch

  Yes. The evolutionary establishment is overly dogmatic and rabidly fanatical about their sacred cow Darwinism (note: minute variations in traits can account for the difference between sacred cows and regular ones; but they are always of the same bovine kind ). The generation of new functionally specific genetic information couldn't have come about that quickly by stochastic, blind processes alone. So they must have come from an outside source. Ergo:PANSPERMIA is the obvious explanation to the establishment and diversity of life on Earth. (www.panspermia.org) Many viral and bacterial sequences have been identified in your DNA and mine. Who are we really the children of?

  [ Edited to add: please in no way take this as an offense to you personally Hooberus. I rather enjoyed some of the past material you've brought up. This was just a snarky jab to show that its not just "ID proponents" who think they're being overlooked. Some panspermia proponents make the same claim. At least they have more persuasive evidence.]
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  JW Cartoons with kingdom melodies

  by POs Son in

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  ok guys, this one made me sick.

  its from a bookbinder who sells his stuff online to dubs... here is the link.

  sorry if you have to copy and paste it.. http://www.mckennabookcovers.com/first_page.html .

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  Midget-Sasquatch

  Oh brother, doesn't the marketing ever end with WTS and related stuff?!