Rs. pg 329
(6) It it truly separate from the world? Jesus said that his true followers would be "no part of the world." (John 15:19) To worship God in a manner that he approves requires that we keep ourselves "with out spot from the world." (Jas. 1:27) Can that be said of those whose clergy and other members are involved in politics, or whose lives are largely built around materialistic and fleshly desires? -- 1 John 2:15-17
Kwin
John 13:35 "By this all will know that you are my disciples, if you have love among yourselves."
Can YOU feel the love?
Kwin
http://www.ctnow.com/news/local/hc-jehovah1022.artoct22,0,3817289.story?coll=hc-headlines-local
reaching out to the shunned .
a seminar for those who have moved on.
Thank you Blondie.
I see there is a pre-requisite for their visit:
who may be inclined toward becoming reinstated.
How would they know either way if they haven't been in contact with them for a year?
Kwin
that's what my wife thinks anyway.
all i had to do was get that foot in the door.
once it was in it all just rushed through.
Thank you all for your kind thoughts! Mrs. Kwin read through your posts last night. She said though when she joins, she won't be known as Mrs. Kwin (she doesn't like my name ). Maybe we'll call her Mrs. Unkwin then??? Wadayathink?
You said,...then I started talking about how the JW view of apostates changed since all the info regarding 607 vs. 586 came out. She said she knew.Can you elaborate on what you mean by this?
I was getting at the fact that after all the stuff went on at HQ, there was a big push to get people not to listen. This was one of the first well educated, documented and somewhat public attacks on the org. so they changed their policies on those who were DA'd and their definition of what apostacy was to include those who even THINK that some JW beliefs are wrong. There was also a lot more Franz discusses this in the last couple of chapters of his book, which she had read (she cheated and skipped to the end, but I won't hold it against her).
Kwin
http://www.ctnow.com/news/local/hc-jehovah1022.artoct22,0,3817289.story?coll=hc-headlines-local
reaching out to the shunned .
a seminar for those who have moved on.
J.R. Brown, a national spokesman, said people who voluntarily withdraw from the church or become inactive are visited a few times a year by elders of their local congregations.
Really now!
Kwin
what religion was job?
he was the greatest in the orient, so he obviously wasn't an israelite yet he was considered a friend of jehovah.. the israelites at the time were god's chosen ones.
since job wasn't one of them, does this prove that god accepts more than one religion?
The Israelites at the time were God's chosen ones.says who? the Isrealites?
I guess going by the Mosaic account, it would be the Israelites opinion. Also JW doctrine.
The point that I'm getting at is this belief contradicts the JW teaching taken from Eph. 4: 5 "one Lord, one faith, one baptism". The JW's take this to mean that there is only one religion that is right. (Rs. pg 332 "What makes you think there is only one religion that is right?")
So, did Job practice the same religion as the Isrealites? If so, then how did he come to this belief? I think it would be safer to say that he didn't, that he just had faith in God. How was Job God's friend if there is only "one faith" that more then likely Job was no part of?
Anyhow how was he to know that the pig would cause so much trouble, causing future generations to swear off eating them?
He could have easily not gotten into this situation if he had just checked their feet before he finalised the deal.
Kwin
what religion was job?
he was the greatest in the orient, so he obviously wasn't an israelite yet he was considered a friend of jehovah.. the israelites at the time were god's chosen ones.
since job wasn't one of them, does this prove that god accepts more than one religion?
What religion was Job?
He was the greatest in the Orient, so he obviously wasn't an Israelite yet he was considered a friend of Jehovah.
The Israelites at the time were God's chosen ones. Since Job wasn't one of them, does this prove that God accepts more than one religion?
Any ideas?
Kwin
strange but great times downunder this week!.
ok, now when will it stop so's we can get back to summer?.
what we need is something to take our minds off the election weather, so settle back and let's go polling.. this weekend's poll question is:.
I was told a story one time about a person who had a smurf in bed and couldn't breathe. They took the kid's shirt off, and saw a shadow of a smurf on the kids chest.
I had a Cabbage Patch Kid, never heard any stories about them, however I wasn't permitted to have Trash Can Kids, or Garbage Can Kids (whatever they were called) trading cards because many times they had greusome depictions. I also had to throw out an Ewok book I had bought. I wanted to sell it to someone in my class, but my dad said that the demons in the book would transfer to the money so I had to throw it out.
Kwin
Blondie:
there is no scriptural standard for appealing in the first place. It implies that the holy spirit is not operating on the elders.
So why would they offer it, if it suggests that the system in place has failed or may fail. Wouldn't that open up possible legal woes for the cong. (WTS) from someone claiming that they were impropperly DF'd?
Why isn't there an appeal for someone who is reproved?
Kwin
here's a few quotes from the wts website concerning blood:.
i won't bore you with the entire article; i'll just list the things that caught my eye.. http://www.watchtower.org/library/hb/index.htm.
how can blood save your life?.
had a load of different doctors saying how much better it was to work that way.
When they were on screen did they have a banner run along the bottom:
"This is not a real doctor. It is an unpaid actor wanna-be from the laundry room impersinating a doctor. For real medical advise, please read the watchtower."
Or was that hidden in the credits?
Kwin
