Unbelievable. ; Wonder how that relative would feel if she got "smacked across the mouth" regularly for disagreeing with her "head". ; What a loving religion she practices.
Maybe she does and this is how she justifies it.
Kwin
great advice received from a close jw relative who we visited last week.
she said that husbands are the head of the family, and if the wife doesn't support him in serving jehovah then he should give her a good smack across the mouth, thats what she deserves.
if only adam had given eve a good smack across the mouth when she proposed eating the fruit, we wouldn't be in the mess we are in now!
Unbelievable. ; Wonder how that relative would feel if she got "smacked across the mouth" regularly for disagreeing with her "head". ; What a loving religion she practices.
Maybe she does and this is how she justifies it.
Kwin
in the final installment of my story, i am done with my local congregation now.
in the past month, i have been df'd, un-df'd attended a meeting where i shook everyones hand and smiled ... and now i have sent everyone in the hall this letter, roughly 60 addresses:.
open letter to the north congregation of jehovahs witnesses.
It's been almost a week since the letters would have appeared in mailboxes. No elders have called me. No friends have called about it. No one, just the unbaptized mate of a JW who happened to open the letter before his wife did (already posted about).
I wasn't really expecting much of a response. That would admit the possiblity of a problem in this "perfect" organization. Maybe in the future though, something will happen and remind them of this letter. The only thing I can really hope for or expect.
Kwin
i've been invited to a halloween party and i am so excited!!
i've never dressed up for halloween before and i need costume ideas please.
whatever i go as it will have to have wings, because........well just because.
Just the wings will do. But you have to invite me too!
Kwin
k theres this girl at my school, i absolutely fell in love with her, i'm serious to, it's not just a fling....it's love, her eyes, her smile, her personality, i truely love her, and recently she told me she couldn't go out with me because of her religion,(jw), she crushed my heart, .
now plzzzzz tell me.......when would she ever be allowed to date...cause this feeling for her will never die......i love her.
why would i get a feeling as important as this, if it could never be
Well, what I can say is that if you really, really love her do whatever you have to do. But know this, it's going to be an uphill battle for you, all the way and there's no guarantee how it's going to turn out in the end either. You could spend years converting (yes it takes years to indoctrinate you) and in the end she goes for someone else, or you could spend years attempting to un-indoctrinate her, and she may never leave. There is no easy road for you.
Love is a strong force, but the JW's fear of doing something wrong is much stronger. All they know is fear. That's how they're kept under control.
Kwin
k theres this girl at my school, i absolutely fell in love with her, i'm serious to, it's not just a fling....it's love, her eyes, her smile, her personality, i truely love her, and recently she told me she couldn't go out with me because of her religion,(jw), she crushed my heart, .
now plzzzzz tell me.......when would she ever be allowed to date...cause this feeling for her will never die......i love her.
why would i get a feeling as important as this, if it could never be
lets say the one in a billion chance of me bringing her out of it works.......wouldn't her parent or something renounce her or stuff like that?and how in the world would i convince her to come out, i already said what i could've
There, that's a much better question then, "Where do I sign up?"
The best way, is to educate yourself on what they teach, and WHY it is a bunch of BS. Once you do that, play possem and ask tough questions about the stuff that they're teaching. Ask lots, and lots, and lots of questions. Expect them to back EVERYTHING up, and don't take, "Let's talk about that later." for an answer as "later" will never come.
Yes, if she leaves the church, chances are her parents won't speak to her anymore. It is a cult after all.
Kwin
k theres this girl at my school, i absolutely fell in love with her, i'm serious to, it's not just a fling....it's love, her eyes, her smile, her personality, i truely love her, and recently she told me she couldn't go out with me because of her religion,(jw), she crushed my heart, .
now plzzzzz tell me.......when would she ever be allowed to date...cause this feeling for her will never die......i love her.
why would i get a feeling as important as this, if it could never be
Did you see post 2 on this thread?
For your next question ... don't do it.
No, I didn't edit it and add it. I just knew.
Then, take a peak at the next thing I posted:
Something else you might want to know, is you're dealing with someone in a cult
You really want to join a cult? Why don't you try to bring her out of it. It would be a lot more valient, and I'm sure she'd put out a lot more too. (just kidding. you're not really looking for that anyway, are you?)
Kwin
k theres this girl at my school, i absolutely fell in love with her, i'm serious to, it's not just a fling....it's love, her eyes, her smile, her personality, i truely love her, and recently she told me she couldn't go out with me because of her religion,(jw), she crushed my heart, .
now plzzzzz tell me.......when would she ever be allowed to date...cause this feeling for her will never die......i love her.
why would i get a feeling as important as this, if it could never be
How old are you? How old is she?
Something else you might want to know, is you're dealing with someone in a cult, so no matter what's going to happen in the future, it's not going to be your average every-day relationship. BTW, JW's don't like people to say they're in a cult, they don't know it yet.
Kwin
k theres this girl at my school, i absolutely fell in love with her, i'm serious to, it's not just a fling....it's love, her eyes, her smile, her personality, i truely love her, and recently she told me she couldn't go out with me because of her religion,(jw), she crushed my heart, .
now plzzzzz tell me.......when would she ever be allowed to date...cause this feeling for her will never die......i love her.
why would i get a feeling as important as this, if it could never be
She'll date you when you're of marrying age, and have converted to become a JW yourself.
For your next question ... don't do it.
Kwin
have any of you ever feel abandoned by "friends" because you dont associate (congregate) with them anymore?
there is a couple of 'friends' that i haven't talked to for about a year, (because i dont go to the meetings).
i dont have anything against them or the congregation.
Perhaps your friends haven't seen this on the official WT media website:
http://www.jw-media.org/beliefs/beliefsfaq.htm
KwinDo you shun former members?
Those who become inactive in the congregation, perhaps even drifting away from association with fellow believers, are not shunned. In fact, special effort is made to reach out to them and rekindle their spiritual interest. If, however, someone unrepentantly practices serious sins, such as drunkenness, stealing or adultery, he will be disfellowshipped and such an individual is avoided by former fellow-worshipers. Every effort is made to help wrongdoers. But if they are unrepentant, the congregation needs to be protected from their influence. The Bible clearly states: 'Remove the wicked man from among yourselves.' (1 Corinthians 5:13) Those who formally say they do not want to be part of the organization any more are also avoided. What of a man who is disfellowshipped but whose wife and children are still Jehovah's Witnesses? The spiritual ties he had with his family change, but blood ties remain. The marriage relationship and normal family affections and dealings can continue. As for disfellowshipped relatives not living in the same household, Jehovah's Witnesses apply the Bible's counsel: "Quit mixing with them." (1 Corinthians 5:11) Disfellowshipped individuals may continue to attend religious services and, if they wish, they may receive spiritual counsel from the elders with a view to their being restored. They are always welcome to return to the faith if they reject the improper course of conduct for which they were disfellowshipped.
some of you have asked me where the name "tall penguin" comes from.
well, i came across a book called "animal attraction" about 5 years ago.
it is a personality test which pegs you as a particular animal.