In my humble opinion, "anasazi" is speaking out of his "anas."
JK
gb anthony morris gave the final talk on friday's 2007 follow the christ dc.
in the talk he gives reasons for the r&f to trust the fds specifically the gb.. the talk is nauseating, but shows how desperate the gb has become.
they're losing control of the r&f and they know it.. jwd member booby originally posted this speech on the "gb solidifies ownership" thread.
In my humble opinion, "anasazi" is speaking out of his "anas."
JK
burn the ships: osama bin laden has long blonde hair and a tattoo of jesus on the left orb of his arse.. hs : no he has not...got long blonde hair i mean.. burn the ships: you admire osama so why should we believe you?
in fact as you admire osama why should we believe that god does not exist or that the republican party is not a gigantic cuban string vest?.
hs: where have i said i admired osama burn?.
It only took me 5 seconds of reading to find out I don't care.
JK
1/captives of a concept.....fantastic....thanks don...you freed my mind completely .
2/visions of glory...barbara harrison....fantastic insights......(god can't kill arnold) .
3/jehovah lives in brooklyn.....ricky francis.....he sums all jw's up brilliantly....love this book .
Prior to that, Paul Hoeffel's letter. Not a book, but an earth shattering moment for me.
JK
1/captives of a concept.....fantastic....thanks don...you freed my mind completely .
2/visions of glory...barbara harrison....fantastic insights......(god can't kill arnold) .
3/jehovah lives in brooklyn.....ricky francis.....he sums all jw's up brilliantly....love this book .
CoC, Ray rules!
JK
most of us who were in the jehovah's witnesses for some time realize that for years the watchtower society had always discouraged it's rank and file members from going to see therapists, or professional counselors if they had depression, or serious chemical depression.
the watchtower society always told us to go out in service more, do more personal study, be more regular at meetings - and essentially we would lose our depression , and everything would fall right back into place.
the old, " don't worry, be happy " cliche.
Flip,
Yes, I received similar "help" as others mentioned here. Except I had an elder that personally thought he was anointed to help me. His favorite thing to tell me is that he thought I was pathetic, and just needed to become a spiritual man. Oh, what warm fuzzies that gave me! Especially when he started seeing my wife at his apartment with no one else there. I guess rules are just for the "little people" that are pathetic.
JK
( one recent post indicated this 90% figure) .
i don't wish to debate the pro's and con's of atheism, just help me understand your personal.
reasonings for this huge difference in figures.
I fit somewhere between agnostic, and thinking something is out there, but do not need to understand it. 90% seems way to high on the atheists here.
JK
o. k. how do i start ?
i will preface the start of this first by saying this happened many years ago - in 1985 when i had just become a new father myself to my dear son flipper junior, i'll call him.
when i explain this to you, some of this may appear comical, in fact, now that i overcame it years ago, i can laugh at it, but when you see the totality of the story- when it happened then to me- it was no laughing matter.
Flip,
So sorry that this happened to you. If me and my Indiana JW buddies would have found out at the time, we would have come and helped you beat them to a bloody pulp.
JK
i became 'weak' in the early 80's after being treated badly by a body of elders.
i had not sinned.
quite the opposite.
Jeff,
I was DF'ed and came back a couple of years later by kissing some serious butt. They had me leave my support group that helped me while out, and within a few years got DF'ed again for the same problem. I was in a miserable place for 3 more years, until I did some research and ended up here. The most startling thing about being mentally free from the mind control, was that I was instantly free of the fear of dying at Armageddon.
So glad to be out,
JK
franky!!!.
thanks guys for all your suggestions, but i ended up choosing the one based on his race name franks bypass.. paul.
dig,
Franky is a great name for him, enjoy your new pet!
JK
....... only a bit of a fun killer...........she was naturally fun and evil.......but fought against it.........are most jw wives fun killers??????
?.........or is it just hardcore jw's...... all husbands, wives, and kids...........i do remember a few kid jw fun killers.......................................oompa.
this means did not hang out with the fun killer jw kids growing up............. i jus wanna have fun........like the girls.....(cindi lauper)........... my wife could eat the toast and drink the blood.......
Oomp,
I had a nickname for my last ex-JW wife:
"The Black Hole of Fun"
JK