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  Jesus Christ was a Horse Thief

  by belbab in

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  this post is and experiment.

  i am following a suggestion of almost athiest.

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  belbab

  Now What

  What took you so long to show up? Bravo! Bravo! Bravo!

  I mean it. I hope you stick around, and hold your ground. Or choose to be quiet or choose of your own accord and leave and I wish you well.

  If the posts in this thread are diabolic, then do not the Scriptures say, Resist the devil and he will flee from you.

  Let me tell you a little story. I told another little story on another post, but I can't direct you there now because I will lose this one.

  Back in the hungry thirties when I was a boy, and families were big because people wanted manpower for labor, the kids and our mother, became associated with an evangelical Christian group. Our old man , (we didn't have a father, we were too poor,) was a drunk, a gambler and a brawler. My mother said that once in a brawl, he banged a man's head on the sidewalk so bad that later he died.

  Us kids persuaded our old man to give up the booze and we were happy he did for a period of six months. What happened. Another religious man, who knows may a friend of Judge Rutherford or a Communist, came along and showed him all the texts in the Bible where it showed wine was allowed. (It may be this man who said that he could prove that Jesus was a horse thief, but I cannot remember exactly, it may have been someone else. )

  Guess what? He returned to the booze and finally died of it finally at the age of 72.

  If the Evangelists, that is the teachers of good news, had really told the truth of the good news, our old man, may have become our father. Nevertheless, I loved him, and do not hold hatred of him to this day.

  Is Jesus really a horse thief?

  This thread may contain content that is hazerdus to your health, viewer discretion is advised.

  Let the games go on. If JC can't endure the heat, let him leave the arena , or call down fire from heaven and give us a blast.

  belbab
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  Jesus Christ was a Horse Thief

  by belbab in

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  this post is and experiment.

  i am following a suggestion of almost athiest.

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  belbab

  So it is established then, he was a horsethief, after all a donkey is of the equinine species. But there are other extenuating circumstances that have to be considered.

  I don't know if the book of Revelations would stand up in pages of The WatchTower as evidence. After all it is a prophecy of future events. Or is it? And then it has fantastic stuff in it, Roy Rogers type ghost riders in the sky, with a rider spewing spitballs out of his mouth. Also he was wearing a white hat, everybody knows that horse thieves always wore black hats. And seven headed dragon galloping up out of the sea, with a red- robed prostitute riding side saddle while holding on to a goblet of wine, without spilling a drop. Check out the WT images.

  Of course before we could use Revelations as evidence we would have to get Leoliea to do a search and see if and when it was introduced into the true Catholicized authenticated Bible Canon.

  I think we will have to rely on Mark, as our main body of evidence. Of course we would have to consider that JC didn't really steal the colt himself, he got his buddies to do it.

  Also, if I prophesied that around next Christmas that I was going to steal a Sally- ann contribution kettle from the front of the liquor store and at the time of the next christmas, sent my boys out to steal the the kettle, and then when questionned about it, I testify that it was prophetised way in advance so I would not be held guilty, would that exonerate me?

  I think we have to check out whether, this colt riding thingy, was fore told, in the established Masoretic non-Greek hebrew text from centuries past.

  So I believe that there are still some debateable questions as to whether the Bible is an old violin upon which you can play any ole tune

  belbab, speaking truth with his hand on the Book
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  Jesus Christ was a Horse Thief

  by belbab in

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  this post is and experiment.

  i am following a suggestion of almost athiest.

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  belbab

  Another question.

  Is it OK to steal a glance at big boobies?

  Go to All Most Athiest current post in Humor section, they're on display there.

  belbab, creating havoc, stealing time.
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  Jesus Christ was a Horse Thief

  by belbab in

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  this post is and experiment.

  i am following a suggestion of almost athiest.

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  belbab

  Sorry Minimus, I was so exhilerated someone replied, that I forgot to acknowledge your post and answer your question.

  My reply is:

  That it soothes my conscience when I go out and steal something. You know like robbing Jeho

  by fudging on service report. Or like Ole Pappy Knorr, telling a Gilead class that if the single ones went out and got married then They were robbing Jehovah.

  Another thing. I cannot get hold of the most recent Watch Tower magazines. Sometimes wife steals them from her 89 year old mother and then she gives them to me. I ask her if it bothers her conscience, she says no, not at all. Should my Bible base consciousness be troubled?

  belbab, troubled
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  Jesus Christ was a Horse Thief

  by belbab in

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  this post is and experiment.

  i am following a suggestion of almost athiest.

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  belbab

  Hey, the experiment is already working. It took seven minutes.

  The man did say didn't he that He would come like a thief in the night.

  What is he stealing?
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  Jesus Christ was a Horse Thief

  by belbab in

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  this post is and experiment.

  i am following a suggestion of almost athiest.

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  belbab

  This post is and experiment. I am following a suggestion of Almost Athiest. You can find

  his thread yourself if you wish. If I direct you to it from here it will spoil the experiment.

  Here goes:

  In former times there used to be the expression:

  The Bible is an old violin,

  You can play any ole tune on it.

  So someone gave the example:

  Jesus was a horse thief.

  Is this true. What do you think?

  belbab
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  All Scripture is Inspired

  by belbab in

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  all scripture is inspired of god and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, 17 that the man of god may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work.

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  belbab

  Dave, right on, sees comments below.

  Leoliea, you sure know how to water the camels. And drawn from such a deep well too. Thank God, you managed to escape from the taliban-like thought police before they put a halter and burka on you.

  From the links you directed me to, I see that there is no fixed boundary whatsoever, between Holy Scripture, semi-wholly scripture, engravings on an ancient tyrant’s wall or plain ole down-to-earth graffiti in a public privy. And the time frame is from the days of Enoch down to the first and second centuries and no doubt you would continue it down to our day.

  For discussion purposes of 2 Tim 3:14-16, I have copied the following from Nark’s post from the second link, which expresses concisely, what I was trying to say in this thread.

  Like (slightly caricaturing) "anything you can find anywhere which is upbuilding to you and seems to confirm your faith is inspired of God and beneficial".

  Paul reminds Timothy, that from infant sacred writings you have known, the (ones) being able you to make wise into salvation through faith. (WT interlinear) (I need help with the Greek here, does the (ones) refer back to sacred writings or are sacred writings without an article)

  In any case, it would not be reasonable to believe that Timothy’s grandmother and mother would have access to all the many writings especially since many of them had not even been written. Whatever part they did have, would have been sufficient to establish their faith.

  While Paul was writing to Timothy, was he telling him that what he was writing was part of All Scripture? He did tell him he was an apostle, but does that make his writings God inspired and hence automatically a part of the accepted Canon of his day.

  In 2 Cor. 4:4 Paul says that the god of the age this blinded the mental powers of the unbelievers. (WT interlinear). Cannot this god (theos) use god-breathed scriptures to accomplish his designs?

  1John 4:1 Loved (ones) not to every spirit be you believing, but to be proving the spirits if out the God it is. (WT interlinear)

  If any of my words here are in error, diabolic, that is in opposition of what someone else holds sacred, would they not be useful for setting me straight in harmony with other accepted writings? Can I go against the orthodox consensus?

  Upon what basis is any scripture called Holy? Who chooses the bible canon? Many of the Writings Leoliea has listed survived because some group made them sacred in their eyes and preserved them in isolated places. The Nag Hammadi writings were carefully hidden so they would not be destroyed because they were considered sacred or holy by somebody, but others thought they were garbage and destined for burning. Thank God for diversity.

  Mdb . I realize that reading 2Tim 3:14-16 can have different meanings for different readers. It is not easy to switch meanings. As I read these verses my mind switches from one to the other. At times I wonder which opinion will prevail. From between expressed differences of opinion what is so will flow forth eventually.

  belbab, I shall return.
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  Looking for secular proof for 609 BC...

  by AuldSoul in

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  viewing jeremiah from the standpoint of the world powers, it makes perfect sense that the 70 years would apply to babylon's ascendancy as the isaiah's prochecy book stated, instead of applying to jerusalem.

  *** ip-1 chap.

  19 pp.

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  belbab

  Auld Soul,

  Can I refer you to the Celebrated One, namely, Scholar.

  Scholar, Scholar, where are you?

  We need you, honest.

  belbab, popcorn anyone?
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  All Scripture is Inspired

  by belbab in

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  all scripture is inspired of god and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, 17 that the man of god may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work.

  new world translation .

  question: .

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  belbab

  All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work. New World Translation

  Question:

  All Scripture is interpreted by the Watchtower as only referring to the Holy Scriptures, and by Holy Scriptures they mean the canon of the Bible which is in their translation. In view of the fact that the writings of the Greek Scriptures have quotes from other non canonical books does Paul"s All Scripture only refer to Holy Scriptures?

  The adjective Holy implies that there exist scriptures that are not so holy.

  In the previous verse 15 the Greek text uses the term Holy Scriptures. The word for scriptures is not the same as the word for scriptures in verse 16.

  In verse 16 cited above the word Holy is not there.

  I am investigating whether all scripture, written down through history, whether on clay tablets, stone papyrus or paper or online is not beneficial for teaching.

  What other references of quotes in the Bible indicate that the writers used other writings for there teachings?

  I hope I have made my question clear.

  belbab
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  Bethel Getting Paranoid, Tightening Screws

  by AlanF in

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  i have it from solid sources that brooklyn and patterson are now recording all incoming telephone calls.. a word to the wise if you have friends there you talk to.. alanf

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  belbab

  Thanks Angharad, I'm glad to hear it, and I will pass it on down the line.

  belbab