Logicandreason

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  crucifixation or upright stake

  by cakes in

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  hi everyone, i'm new :) i know jesus died on an upright stake and not a cross but i don't know where to find the info on where or when the idea of the crucifixation orginated from.

  can someone help me on this please?

  thanks in advanced :)

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  Logicandreason

  Werent the Romans notorious for thier Crucifictions?

  Dude, havent u ever seen Spartacus?
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  Lunatics

  by Nat-Oz in

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  man they are cunning little people - they make you drop everything that is good and normal in your life, make you turn against your family and friends, then build you up to think you are wonderful, then once you leave them, you are left in limbo with nothing for you either side of the fence.

  i feel numb and really have no trust in anyone now.

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  They were never your freinds to begin with. To hell with em. Trust me, you did yourself a favor. Now you are a free minded, evil, apostate like us. Heh heh heh.
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  Married to a JW, how do you handle teaching the kids?

  by AlmostAtheist in

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  i'm fading away from jw's, and i hope my dub wife will fade with me and we can teach our children to be free thinking humans, not mindless automatons.

  but there is certainly the possibility that my "falling away" will spark something in my wife to make her take the jw religion more seriously and she'll wind up going the other way.

  for all i know, she'll turn me in and get me disfellowshipped.. surely some of you are already in this situation.

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  Good luck man. When my mother became a witness, it became almost impossible for my parents to agree on how we were to be brought up. My mom and dad fought endlessly becuase my brothers and I were in Catholic school. Neither of them won though. It might be a bumpy road for all of you at this point. But if you have brought them up well so far, they will be able to decide for themselves eventually what they want to do. I did, and now I am twenty four years old, married, and taking care of my wife and I very well with hopes of having children of my own. So I can bring them up right. Eventually, it will be all up to them. The children that is, no matter how much you guys fight over it. (and hopefully you dont). Hope that helped.

  Peace

  J
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  Hi

  by Logicandreason in

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  i am not a former jw, but my mother has been one for years and as you all know, that affected me as well.

  i was raised catholic in a nice part of queens ny, and for the most part i never had a problem with my faith.

  when i turned ten or so, my mother became entrenched in the jehova witnesses, and has not looked back since.

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  they can be quite a scary bunch, of that I am absolutely sure.
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  KH in corona queens.

  by Logicandreason in

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  hey r there any former jw/s that attended the kingdom hall in corona queens?

  i was just curious, thats where my mother still goes.

  i just wanted to see how many people i knew back then have come to the same conclusions that i have in the past ten years.

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  Thanks for the welcome again. I see they edited out my name and stuff. Cool beans. Peace.
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  Hi

  by Logicandreason in

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  i am not a former jw, but my mother has been one for years and as you all know, that affected me as well.

  i was raised catholic in a nice part of queens ny, and for the most part i never had a problem with my faith.

  when i turned ten or so, my mother became entrenched in the jehova witnesses, and has not looked back since.

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  Logicandreason

  My pleasure, theres a lot more where that came from.
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  KH in corona queens.

  by Logicandreason in

  1. jw
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  hey r there any former jw/s that attended the kingdom hall in corona queens?

  i was just curious, thats where my mother still goes.

  i just wanted to see how many people i knew back then have come to the same conclusions that i have in the past ten years.

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  Hey R there any former JW/s that attended the Kingdom Hall in Corona Queens? I was just curious, thats where my mother still goes. I just wanted to see how many people I knew back then have come to the same conclusions that I have in the past ten years. If indeed there is someone who might have a faint recollection of three brothers bored to tears week after week, (my brothers and I), give me a holla. I would love to talk to ya. She was a member of the Spanish speaking congregation. Send me a private message if ya think ya know who it is. i wont reveal her name or mine unless someone surfaces.....wait a minute, if you see my profile then you will know my name. FINE......Jay Jones, my moms name is [edit] and I have two brothers named [edit] and [edit]. There, are ya happy now?? I doubt anyone will surface, but I thought I would givei t a try.

  Peace.
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  Hi

  by Logicandreason in

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  i am not a former jw, but my mother has been one for years and as you all know, that affected me as well.

  i was raised catholic in a nice part of queens ny, and for the most part i never had a problem with my faith.

  when i turned ten or so, my mother became entrenched in the jehova witnesses, and has not looked back since.

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  Oh, by the way. Is there anyone here familiar with the KH in corona queens. That is the one my mother goes to. She is in the spanish congregation, or one of them, I think. I just wanna see if there is anyone I know here who has come to the same realizations as I have from that particular section of queens. Thanks alot.

  Peace
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  Hi

  by Logicandreason in

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  i am not a former jw, but my mother has been one for years and as you all know, that affected me as well.

  i was raised catholic in a nice part of queens ny, and for the most part i never had a problem with my faith.

  when i turned ten or so, my mother became entrenched in the jehova witnesses, and has not looked back since.

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  Logicandreason

  Thanks for the warm welcome. I have a theory on why the JW's are so against the cross. I believe that they do this to further distance themselves from other world religions. What they have done is eliminate the one symbol that emcompasses everything that Christianity in all of its forms stands for. And how can they say that Christ was impaled on a stake, when it is a historic fact that the Romans were notorious for crucifying their enemies. Didnt they crucify thousands of fugitive slaves along the Apien way? As the days go by, I am more and more convinced that there is something dreadfully devious about this organization. Thank you all for making me feel at home.
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  Hi

  by Logicandreason in

  1. jw
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  i am not a former jw, but my mother has been one for years and as you all know, that affected me as well.

  i was raised catholic in a nice part of queens ny, and for the most part i never had a problem with my faith.

  when i turned ten or so, my mother became entrenched in the jehova witnesses, and has not looked back since.

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  Logicandreason

  Hello all. I am not a former JW, but my mother has been one for years and as you all know, that affected me as well. I was raised catholic in a nice part of Queens NY, and for the most part I never had a problem with my faith. When I turned ten or so, my mother became entrenched in the Jehova witnesses, and has not looked back since. Even as a child I sensed there was something subtly wrong with them. My mother attempted to make the rest of my family convert as well, and I always got dragged along with my two brothers to their KH in corona queens. I sat for what felt like days through their meetings watching the clock and waiting for the damn thing to end. While I cant say that I was ever treated badly by them in the three years that I had to be involved with them. i will say that durring these tender years, I suffered a great deal in terms of confussion, and fear. I feared that my soul was eternally doomed, and that my mother and the witnesses were right all along, and I was indeed going to die. I had felt like this for years after I decided not to go to the meetings with my mother anymore. Even to this day, the images that I was shown in thier numerous publications send a chill up my spine. My mother had made me beleive that the sign of the cross was evil, and to this day the sight of a cross makes me feel a sublte feeling of fear. This must be carried over from when I was a child.

  I love my mother very much, and I dont hate her for trying to convert me and my family. After all, SHE beleives that the only way to survive, "ARMEGGEDON" is thorugh them, so naturally she will do her best to try and save us, even though we all know the truth about this organization, (notice how I use the term "organization" instead of religion.

  I just wanted to thank the good folks here on this site for helping people who have been touched by this group. My experience may not have been the worst, and I made it out without too many wounds, but It still affects me in a small way. Then info provided here has helped me further solidify the desicion I made years ago, and I am glad I have it at my disposal.

  Jay Jones.