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  Culture Wars

  by Victor in

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  with things going to hell in a hand basket, i’ve taken an interest in the clashes of mindsets.

  this of course takes me back to my own evolutionary mindset pre and post jw life of two decades.

  if you overlay the core beliefs of memetic tribes as postulated by the authors, i’m curious what the median tribe of jwd would be?

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  With things going to hell in a hand basket, I’ve taken an interest in the clashes of mindsets. This of course takes me back to my own evolutionary mindset pre and post JW life of two decades. If you overlay the core beliefs of memetic tribes as postulated by the authors, I’m curious what the median tribe of JWD would be? Which group or combination of groups would you identify with? Below is the article that explains the traits.

  https://medium.com/s/world-wide-wtf/memetic-tribes-and-culture-war-2-0-14705c43f6bb
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  Randy Waters

  by Victor in

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  if you live in san antonio and would like to help me help randy waters please send me a pm.

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  I was very explicit looking for San Antonio residents to speak with so I can make the connection. Tuba dub I’d be happy to get on zoom with you.
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  Randy Waters

  by Victor in

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  if you live in san antonio and would like to help me help randy waters please send me a pm.

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  I was contacted by a friend of Randy, also an ex JW, because he thought I still lived in San Antonio. Since I no longer live there, I could not help. I am not at liberty to discuss this problem in public.
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  Randy Waters

  by Victor in

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  if you live in san antonio and would like to help me help randy waters please send me a pm.

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  If you live in San Antonio and would like to help me help Randy waters please send me a pm.
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  Misinformation in CoC

  by ICBehindtheCurtain in

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  2. bible

  hello everyone, i know that many here like me have read ray's book crisis of consience, i was very impressed with it, it helped open my eyes to the hypocrisy and double standards of the wts, and ray gave me the impresion of being a very loving and kind man, not the demonized apostate we were all lead to believe.

  but, i noticed something that wasn't quite correct when i was reading the part that spoke of then brother rene vazquez, he makes it seem like all rene did was have private conversations with ray and nothing else, this is not true, i for a fact know that this was not all that happened.

  in a ms meeting on tuesday back in 1980, rene was conducting a part and he went up to the stage with only his bible, he started saying that all we needed was the bible, that we would no longer be using other publications by the wts .

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  I think misinformation is a stretch of the facts. From reading both of Ray’s books, they were both memoirs/commentary rather than historical fact checked documentaries. With this genere, an author has latitude that is generalized (leaving out details) and personal bias to frame the narrative to their perspective at the time of writing.
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  JWD a Dysfunctional Place?

  by Victor_E in

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  with the recent blood baths we have seen in this forum it got me wondering of how you can objectively understand it and more importantly not let it affect you if you so choose.

  what i write is not meant to be taken as gospel truth since there is no gospel truth nor is it my intention to get on my soap box since i left it when i walked out of the kingdom hall.

  most of what i have to say is subjective based on personal experience and i feel no need or desire to debate anyone about anything i write.

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  Simon, to date, you have the longest running forum of ex JW,s so you must be doing something right, year after year. Thanks for the memories 😀

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  JWD a Dysfunctional Place?

  by Victor_E in

  1. jw
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  with the recent blood baths we have seen in this forum it got me wondering of how you can objectively understand it and more importantly not let it affect you if you so choose.

  what i write is not meant to be taken as gospel truth since there is no gospel truth nor is it my intention to get on my soap box since i left it when i walked out of the kingdom hall.

  most of what i have to say is subjective based on personal experience and i feel no need or desire to debate anyone about anything i write.

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  Longhairgal I never kept up with anyone from the forums. I drop in every few years to find some are dead. One that comes to mind is Farkel. My impression of him based solely on his postings was that he was deeply wounded and never healed to the extent of rising above his JW experience.

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  JWD a Dysfunctional Place?

  by Victor_E in

  1. jw
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  with the recent blood baths we have seen in this forum it got me wondering of how you can objectively understand it and more importantly not let it affect you if you so choose.

  what i write is not meant to be taken as gospel truth since there is no gospel truth nor is it my intention to get on my soap box since i left it when i walked out of the kingdom hall.

  most of what i have to say is subjective based on personal experience and i feel no need or desire to debate anyone about anything i write.

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  Blues I know this is child's play. In the old days pre JWD, H2O and other forums it was a constant flame wars I even jumped in a few with the Vikings lol
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  Name one POSITIVE thing you took from your experience as a Witness

  by geodude in

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  2. experiences

  i was thinking about this at work the other day, and realized the one positive thing i can truly credit the jws with: .

  i have no fear of public speaking.

  i was a shy kid, fat, clumsy, with crooked glasses and worse teeth, who wore hand-me-downs in one of the wealthiest counties in all of america, who sat still while classmates got up to salute the flag or recite the pledge of allegiance.

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  In my experience how to identify cultish dynamics in any group or organization and how to navigate this powerplay.

  I can identify with you fearlessness of public speaking. I was able to take it to a professional level by taking the Dale Carnegie Course on public speaking with a focuses on your experience and not parroting the ole centuries old tripe.

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  JWD a Dysfunctional Place?

  by Victor_E in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  with the recent blood baths we have seen in this forum it got me wondering of how you can objectively understand it and more importantly not let it affect you if you so choose.

  what i write is not meant to be taken as gospel truth since there is no gospel truth nor is it my intention to get on my soap box since i left it when i walked out of the kingdom hall.

  most of what i have to say is subjective based on personal experience and i feel no need or desire to debate anyone about anything i write.

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  18 Years ago JWD was a "Fight Club" I've seen it all over 25 years being a part of exiting JW groups