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  The Divided States of America

  by Victor in

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  2. beliefs

  the fault lines that have always existed in america were laid bare with the current multiple crises facing our nation.

  this explains in part the polarizing tribalism that cannot get the horse back in the barn of decency and common sense.

  if you want to read up on this history check out this article .

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  Victor

  Tottenkof that is a broad generalization. What evidence do you have to reach your conclusion?
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  The Divided States of America

  by Victor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the fault lines that have always existed in america were laid bare with the current multiple crises facing our nation.

  this explains in part the polarizing tribalism that cannot get the horse back in the barn of decency and common sense.

  if you want to read up on this history check out this article .

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  Victor

  The fault lines that have always existed in America were laid bare with the current multiple crises facing our nation. This explains in part the polarizing tribalism that cannot get the horse back in the barn of decency and common sense. If you want to read up on this history check out this article

  https://medium.com/s/balkanized-america/welcome-back-to-the-divided-states-of-america-ff3522597689

  It reminds me of XJW 1.0 :)
  
  
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  Culture Wars

  by Victor in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  with things going to hell in a hand basket, i’ve taken an interest in the clashes of mindsets.

  this of course takes me back to my own evolutionary mindset pre and post jw life of two decades.

  if you overlay the core beliefs of memetic tribes as postulated by the authors, i’m curious what the median tribe of jwd would be?

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  Victor

  Fink, I don't disagree with your DT comment but the culture wars have existed since the founding of the country. DT has exploited it to get into power and that power is now collapsing on itself.
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  Culture Wars

  by Victor in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  with things going to hell in a hand basket, i’ve taken an interest in the clashes of mindsets.

  this of course takes me back to my own evolutionary mindset pre and post jw life of two decades.

  if you overlay the core beliefs of memetic tribes as postulated by the authors, i’m curious what the median tribe of jwd would be?

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  I finally made it back to read your replies. Thank you GreatTeacher and slim boy fat for your thoughtful analysis. Glad you like the article dubstepped.

  In my opinion, the U.S. was founded as a prototype of governance. It was functional until it wasn’t. The rise of grievance politics destroyed the norms that used to pacify and masses. Social media weaponized voices and it became a free for all, everyone having a say.

  Along this thread you might enjoy this article that expalins the blind never ending battles people engage in online

  https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2020/01/16/the-internet-of-beefs/
  
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  Culture Wars

  by Victor in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  with things going to hell in a hand basket, i’ve taken an interest in the clashes of mindsets.

  this of course takes me back to my own evolutionary mindset pre and post jw life of two decades.

  if you overlay the core beliefs of memetic tribes as postulated by the authors, i’m curious what the median tribe of jwd would be?

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  Victor

  Finkelstein, it actually goes further back to Nixon’s southern strategy and some would argue to the start of the New Deal with Roosevelt. Newt Gingrich was the early provocateur of “race to bottom of the brain stem” politics. But those are just details :)
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  Culture Wars

  by Victor in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  with things going to hell in a hand basket, i’ve taken an interest in the clashes of mindsets.

  this of course takes me back to my own evolutionary mindset pre and post jw life of two decades.

  if you overlay the core beliefs of memetic tribes as postulated by the authors, i’m curious what the median tribe of jwd would be?

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  Victor

  With things going to hell in a hand basket, I’ve taken an interest in the clashes of mindsets. This of course takes me back to my own evolutionary mindset pre and post JW life of two decades. If you overlay the core beliefs of memetic tribes as postulated by the authors, I’m curious what the median tribe of JWD would be? Which group or combination of groups would you identify with? Below is the article that explains the traits.

  https://medium.com/s/world-wide-wtf/memetic-tribes-and-culture-war-2-0-14705c43f6bb
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  Randy Waters

  by Victor in

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  2. friends

  if you live in san antonio and would like to help me help randy waters please send me a pm.

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  I was very explicit looking for San Antonio residents to speak with so I can make the connection. Tuba dub I’d be happy to get on zoom with you.
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  Randy Waters

  by Victor in

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  if you live in san antonio and would like to help me help randy waters please send me a pm.

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  I was contacted by a friend of Randy, also an ex JW, because he thought I still lived in San Antonio. Since I no longer live there, I could not help. I am not at liberty to discuss this problem in public.
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  Randy Waters

  by Victor in

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  if you live in san antonio and would like to help me help randy waters please send me a pm.

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  If you live in San Antonio and would like to help me help Randy waters please send me a pm.
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  Misinformation in CoC

  by ICBehindtheCurtain in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hello everyone, i know that many here like me have read ray's book crisis of consience, i was very impressed with it, it helped open my eyes to the hypocrisy and double standards of the wts, and ray gave me the impresion of being a very loving and kind man, not the demonized apostate we were all lead to believe.

  but, i noticed something that wasn't quite correct when i was reading the part that spoke of then brother rene vazquez, he makes it seem like all rene did was have private conversations with ray and nothing else, this is not true, i for a fact know that this was not all that happened.

  in a ms meeting on tuesday back in 1980, rene was conducting a part and he went up to the stage with only his bible, he started saying that all we needed was the bible, that we would no longer be using other publications by the wts .

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  I think misinformation is a stretch of the facts. From reading both of Ray’s books, they were both memoirs/commentary rather than historical fact checked documentaries. With this genere, an author has latitude that is generalized (leaving out details) and personal bias to frame the narrative to their perspective at the time of writing.
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