Posts by wiegel

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Did You Ever Think You'd No Longer Be A Witness?

by minimus in

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did you ever dream that you'd be posting here too?

Watchtower and the UN-latest development.

by apocalypse in

looks like everyone missed it.

i will clue everyone in.

first, in the way of history, the wtbts got linked up with the un as an ngo (non-governmental organization).to do so, the watchtower had to conform to the rules.

wow! It is just like toto pulling the curtain aside.............looking at the wizard on the screen and seeing the man behind the curtain. as a witness you could never see these connections because we only ever knew one side. now it seems all so transparent......

trudy

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Why is the Watchtower Society modelled on the Old Testament?

by truthseeker in

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it is a fact, that the watchtower have relegated jesus christ to "just another servant of jehovah.

got a copy of "the greatest man who ever lived" book?

the only book they publish dedicated to jesus, doesn't even have his name on it.

wiegel

yup yup yup - it's ALWAYS an old testament example. Now that I've been away long enough I can see that so clearly and wonder - WTF????

trudy

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Were You Always Afraid To Do Something Wrong As A Witness?

by minimus in

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friends

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jws are always being reminded that you "could" stumble someone.

you had to continuously question yourself about possibly offending another (weak) christian's conscience.....were you always worried that you were going to get into trouble because you might've screwed up somehow??.

wiegel

YES YES YES....I always wondered if the holy spirit had skipped over my old congregation because of me....it was ALWAYS ME, you know..(thanks to this place I have learned that I was basically an organization angel, telling the elders EVERY f'ing thing I did and feeling so wicked - oh well - it's over)

Fear

Obligation

Guilt

It is wonderful to be out of the FOG!

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New Here.....And Grieving

by evita in

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friends

i have been lurking for quite a few months.

i have been trying to get up enough nerve to tell you my whole story but am finding it painful and scary to write about.

so here's the shorter version until i get brave enough to spill all the details.

wiegel

Welcome, Evita! I am so sorry to hear about your mom, and I do know how hard certain family relationships suffer when we "fade" or "leave". You will find a wonderful support group here, as you seem to already know. I have been visiting this site for over 4 years and it has helped me in my transition (believer >>>>> unbeliever) immensely. Take care and feel free to talk about how you REALLY feel anytime. There are always some people here who understand and can help.

Warmly,

Trudy

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Hello, all...

by Apathy in

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friends

ish.

i've been lurking sorta kinda and in the chat a bit, but anyways, i thought i'd formally introduce myself.

not really, but i'm paranoid, so you can call me 'thy.

wiegel

Welcome, Thy, it is great to have you here. Since the teens in my family no longer talk to me, it is great to get the "younger" view on things. You are smart and you are brave and your power of reason is well-developed. Your mom has done a great job in raising you, even though you disagree (in itself a sign that you think for YOURself!).

Trudy

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Are the Society planning a 'Pledge of Allegiance'? IT MAY BE TRUE!

by nicolaou in

i've just learned from a trusted contact at thewatchtower.org 'norris', that the society intend to put a resolution to the congregations shortly - though definately not at the 'special talk' meeting next month.. here's the scary bit.

this resolution needs to be responded to by all baptized jehovah's witnesses.

we have not been able to get hold of the wording but have been informed it is intended to provide the brotherhood with the opportunity to affirm their loyalty to jehovah and his organization.

wiegel

...some things are just not nice...

will avoid this poster's postings post this post which nearly sent me postal..........amen

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Did you feel guilty when you did your first post on the forum???

by Es in

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hello all, hope everyone is well,.

as i read many posts there seems to be many that "closet" read and it isnt till many months or even years that they actually post something.

was just wondering how long it took other people to post and did they feel guilty?.

wiegel

No, I did not feel guilty when I made my first post.

However, I "lurked" for four years before I posted. I WAS terrified during the first few months that someone somehow was gonna track me down by my IP address.

More than the TMS ever did, this forum is helping me learn how to express what I believe and how I feel and how to have an open mind toward those with whom I disagree.

trudy

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Was it worth meeting with the judicial committee?

by 24k in

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for those of you who met with a judicial committee and were subsequently da'd or df'd, was it worth the time and effort?

did the elders let you speak your piece, or were they only interested in hearing that key word or phrase that would allow them to act?

was there genuine interest shown, proboing questions asked, did they really want to know how you felt?

wiegel

Walter - You're too much! Where did you learn to rationalize like that? hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...............

trudy

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I still think it might be the truth - what is wrong with me?

by slimboyfat in

apostate literature - i have read the lot.

you name it - c of c, gentile times reconsidered, thirty tears a watchtower slave, the orwellian world of jehovah's witness, apocalypse delayed, and the freeminds and watchtower observer sites, so on and so on.

and i have been reading the posts on this site regularly pretty much since it started, and hourglass before it.

wiegel

Valis - Obtuse - one of my favorite words. It sounds just like it means.