Good post. You said "recently af CO" was given a talk about the subject. Could you say when and where. Is there a print of the speak?
Bereoa
i posted a discussion on the bible research page with the same subject name.
it involves the 'quiet' new doctrine of the co, and i am sure he's not alone.
Good post. You said "recently af CO" was given a talk about the subject. Could you say when and where. Is there a print of the speak?
Bereoa
either we like it or not, were in a war.
an information-war; where the ones wanting to expose the watchtower are on the one side of the frontline the watchtower and their henchmen on the other.
in any war some kind of an intelligence service is essential, and this war is no different than any other war.
hej kent - min norske ven
Så du behøver soldater, men tillige spioner bag fjendens linier. Så længe du holder dig til "proven facts" har jeg al sympati for din mission. Jeg selv er ældste i Scandinavien og modtager en del information. Det meste af denne information er dog efter min mening total ligegyldige og praktiske ting, men engang imellem "popper' der også mere vidtgående information op.
Jeg ved dog ikke hvor længe min ældstestatus bliver ved, da jeg stærkt overvejer at gå af. Grunden er forkastelse af kronologi og myndighedsberettigelse af GB.
Jeg er enig i at "facts can do no harm to real truth"
bereoa
it's been 14 years since i was anathmatised at 17 years of age, i was never baptised but they still marked me as dissaproved asociation,it had the same effect as being dissfellowshiped.
this tore my family apart i was satan's child acording to my stepfather want-a-be.
the elders suggested that because i was haveing sexual relations with worldy girls and drinking that it would lead to drug addition jail and homosexuality and destruction at armageton.
Leave if posible the pain behind you. They will not listen to you and you will have no respons.
By the way I love your name. I was a big fan of Senna. What at bad F1 race day back on Imola in 1994.
Beroea
i was just wondering what everyone's username meant.
i have my own guesses (sixofnine, silentlambs, slayerlayer-i'm almost afraid :o), amazing-enough said!,mommy, fredhall-is that your name?, ozziepost-from downunder, and the list goes on!
please share!!
My name came from Act. 17:11. "....for they "Beroea" received the word with the greatest eagerness of mind, carefylly examining the Scriptures daily AS TO WHETHER THESE THINGS WERE SO".
Thats just what I'm doing according to the Borg.
Beroea
another game.
hvem er hjrvede.
hvorfor skal vi som bevger os pa trsklen til et opgr mod tidligere tnkning efter mange ar i jw verden kunne komme videre.
Another game. Hvem er højrøvede
Let try it another way. Hvorfor skal vi som bevæger os på tærsklen til et opgør mod tidligere tænkning efter mange år I JW verden kunne komme videre. Vi har gjort op med mange ting og ønsker at komme videre og ikke hænge fast i gamle fordomme. Det er nemt at blive vred på alle og sige de alle er idioter og vi selv kun er ofre for andre.
Ok that a game. How do you response
Beroea
does unkind talks make you a better person?.
i notice a tendency to use very rough words describing each other and their posts.
some may think that if we can make other people thing unworthy we are the ones on the top.
Does unkind talks make you a better person?
I notice a tendency to use very rough words describing each other and their posts. Why is that way? Some may think that if we can make other people thing unworthy we are the ones on the top. So we look down at others. Some or us from Europe not using English daily are maybe using the language in at funny way to.
Why not just start looking at your own. How are you as a person deep inside - and how is the best way to get on going? If we look at others with positive eyes we maybe forget our own troubles.
Live after loosing the “faith” and try to find a new platform in live isn’t easy and a lot of disappointing things are to follow, but we must try to look at life with positive eye and not just feel sorrow.
Bereoa
do you have a circle life after being a jw?.
i been wondering about the fact so it seems - that so many after breaking and leaving - a sometime long relationship with the borg - seams to go back to old king of thinking.
sometimes just with others words.. as jw we look/looked at the world with eyes teach by the borg.
Do you have a circle life after being a jw?
I been wondering about the fact – so it seems - that so many after breaking and leaving - a sometime long relationship with the “Borg” - seams to go back to old king of thinking. Sometimes just with others words.
As JW we look/looked at the world with eyes teach by the “Borg”. But sometimes leaving we just repeat the same old kind of word. Just repeating all the old way of thinking or using methods and words we thought we had left.
Anger is too much a controlling factor. Anger is able to bring some goods – but very often it just bring destruction and an bitterness.
A dangerous way to go on living.
Beroea
i dont know if some of you remember but about 8 months ago i recieved a telephone call from the luvvin bruvvers and they wanted to talk to me re my "apostate" veiws.
i told them that i would take legal action against them and to only contact me through letter.
i recieved this today.
You did it right so fare. You haven’t told anything and refuse to part in the games and return the subject right in their faces. They would love to have some words or opinions making them able to nail you but you haven’t given anything. That’s very frustrating from their point of wives. They for sure have been told to look very careful to find some things at you, but to no good. They haven’t been able to find anything.
But please pay attention to the kind words and remember this is only to cover the real purpose. They will still try to find something to nail you. If you let some words come out to others – they will get you. So don’t do it. Be very careful.
Lets start a game. Try to go to a single or two meetings. Show them you are not hiding and have the “balls” to look them right in their yes. But don’t tell anything.
Have a nice game but be careful
Beroea
we tend to stick to our old homes.
it doesnt matter how weak and unable to protect against the winter storms and the heat of the summer it is its still our home.
we remember being a child in the garden and playing in the trees and a lot of good memories.
Kill the messenger
That’s what we do most. We tend to stick to our old homes. It doesn’t matter how weak and unable to protect against the winter storms and the heat of the summer it is – it’s still our home. We remember being a child in the garden and playing in the trees and a lot of good memories. (The sad ones are nearly forgotten).
If someone says our home are weak and bad maintained we kill the person saying that. We don’t like the message - so we kill the messenger.
Attracting a home is the most fundamental attach you can do so it’s only natural to expect a lot of rejecting. The sentence of “where ever I lay my hat – that’s my home" are anyway the road to make people realise the real world and face it – not as an enemy – but as a challenge.
That’s really difficult to most of us - whatever we are still inside or have left. We still try to look at the world and people from that basis point of view. It’s a long process – and some (maybe most) never get though this – to leave the old home and build a new one. If we get to an understanding that our old home are weak - we focus on that and became angry and bitter. We destroy the future and reject to build up power to create a new live and see new opportunities. Many try making the reality fit to our picture of the world – even it’s just a delusion
I’m too stick to that prison with many others. But as beginning we must face your own situation and look for methods to change that. That’s the way out of the prison, anger and destruction.
Have you faced yours and are prepare to put your hat wherever you lay it????????????
Love from
beroea
iam trying to work out how many of u are proper witnesses?
Dear Sue
Thanks for you post. I do understand your confuse about JW reality. I’m inside and very active even as elder, but remember what matters are to be a friend to God/Jesus not men.
I think you must be preparing to meet some real statement about being a Christian of the very pure kind. If you are not preparing to meet opinion against you own and unable to argument for that – don’t go to this place.
It’s not to break you down. Only to make you use your own brain in a common way. Please let you conscience and thinking do the way according to the word of the Bible.
The truth is in the Bible not in the mouth of men.
beroea