How will you bring your brothers in the field service?
MAHABA
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Quick Quiz: First with the right answer wins!
by cab1000 inquestion:.
while in the "truth", what was the first thing said when a fellow congregation member bought a new or used two door car?.
there is no prize.
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Big Brother
by MAHABA inabsolutely scandalous!
anybody on the net can have access to all the data written on your passeport!
http://www.scrolllock.nl/passport/
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MAHABA
Try with USA, it will work!
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Big Brother
by MAHABA inabsolutely scandalous!
anybody on the net can have access to all the data written on your passeport!
http://www.scrolllock.nl/passport/
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MAHABA
Absolutely scandalous!
Anybody on the net can have access to all the data written on your passeport!
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Tell us about you
by kls inso many posters and most communicate either on this site or have the pleasure to meet in person and know much of some posters lives ,but for thos who don't ( like me ) let's share some of our lives with others,,, .
are you married or single?
= me married .
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MAHABA
Are you married or single? = Me married Do you have children ? = 1 Boy, 19 Do you have pets? = two dogs , a big one and a small One, and 10.000.000 dust mites in my bed. What are your hobbies? = photography (people and landscape), writing(in French),information technology,Classical Music. Are you a grandparent? = no.
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Witness Mentality
by minimus inwhat does that mean to you?
describe an example of "witness mentality".
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Are you Living or Existing?
by Golf indoes your life have a purpose or are you just existing?
over the years i've learned to extract the good out of bad situations and it has given me a different perspective on life.
life is all about learning.
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MAHABA
One of the things I've come to learn is not to expect anything from anybody and this way you don't get disappointed.
And in not expecting anything from anybody, That is to say, in giving, only giving, (of our attention, warmth, love, money???) we are tremendously pay pack, rewarded by the slightest mark of appreciation or concern.
Ivan
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Ozzie's 125th Weekend Poll
by ozziepost inso how's things?
been really humid in new south these past few days with afternoon storms.
right now the refreshing rain is falling and mrs ozzie and i are enjoying a(nother) box of ferrero rocher chocs.
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MAHABA
W rongly T aught ByT he Slave
-Their lake of humility,(governing body) never recognizing that they where wrong.
-The Elders. Saying and deeds.
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-Too legalistic behaviour.
-Despise of people of the outside.
-The Faithful and discreet slave ( erratic inerrancy ?)
-Their Collective Pope (F&DS)
-Their (too) long-lasting ,not hurry to disappear so-called remnant.
-The minus emphasis on Jesus.
-The, how do you say that, predication bag?
-Short cut hairs.
-Holiness through the wearing of a suit view.
-Their ?If you don?t have the correct view on spirituals matter, that is to say, the F&DS view, pray God , call the elders, read our publications, maybe you will be able to be enlightened again and delivered from the snare of the Devil?. So to summarize, the demonization of all form of though which is not ?Stamped? WTB&TS
-Before them no hope, Beyond them no salvation.
-Their Shilly-shallying, valse à l?envers, beat to windward way of explanation of prophecies .
-The way there are shunning thinking abilities of their fellow believers.
Ivan
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Anyone heard of Jehovah-Jirah?
by IronGland ini was watching robert tilton the other night(yes he's back) and he was asking everyone to send him $1000 even if they dont have it and they will be blessed by the lord jehovah-jirah.
any ideas?
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MAHABA
Folowing are a tranliteration of gen22:14 ,gen 22:8 and a few commentaries on gen :22:14.
BBE Genesis
BHT Genesis wayyiqrä´ ´abrähäm ?ë|m-hammäqôm hahû´ yhwh(´ädönäy) yir´è ´á?er yë´ämër hayyôm Bühar yhwh(´ädönäy) yërä´è
( he is being said the day in mountain of Yawheh he shall be seen )
BBE
Genesis 22:8 And Abraham said, God himself will give the lamb for the burned offering: so they went on together.BHT
Genesis 22:8 wayyöº´mer ´abrähäm ´élöhîm yir´è-llô( he shall see for himself)haSSè lü`ölâ Bünî wayyëlkû ?ünêhem yaHDäwJewish Antiquities :Josephus
but on the third day, as soon as he saw the mountain, he left those servants that were with him till then in the plain, and, having his son alone with him, he came to the mountain. It was that mountain upon which King David later built the temple. {b} (227) Now they had brought with them everything necessary for a sacrifice excepting the animal that was to be offered only. Now Isaac was twenty-five years old. And as he was building the altar, he asked his father what he was about to offer, since there was no animal there for an oblation: to which it was answered, ?That God would provide himself an oblation, he being able to make a plentiful provision for men out of what they have not, and to deprive others of what they already have, when they put too much trust therein; that, therefore, if God pleased to be present and propitious at this sacrifice, he would provide himself an oblation.?
3. (228) As soon as the altar was prepared, and Abraham had laid on the wood, and all things were entirely ready, he said to his son, ?O son! I poured out a vast number of prayers that I might have you for my son; when you came into the world, there was nothing that could contribute to your support for which I was not greatly solicitous, nor anything wherein I thought myself happier than to see you grown up to a man?s estate, and that I might leave you at my death the successor to my dominion; (229) but since it was by God?s will that I became your father, and it is now his will that I relinquish you, bear this consecration to God with a generous mind; for I resign you up to God, who has thought fit now to require this testimony of honour to himself, on account of the favours he has conferred on me, in being to me a supporter and defender. (230) Accordingly you, my son, will now die, not in any common way of going out of the world, but sent to God, the Father of all men, beforehand, by your own father, in the nature of a sacrifice. I suppose he thinks you worthy to get clear of this world neither by disease, neither by war, nor by any other severe way, by which death usually comes upon men, (231) but so that he will receive your soul with prayers and holy offices of religion, and will place you near to himself, and you will be there to me a help and supporter in my old age; on which account I principally brought you up, and you will thereby procure me God for my Comforter instead of yourself.?
4. (232) Now Isaac was of such a generous disposition as became the son of such a father, and was pleased with this discourse; and said, ?That he was not worthy to be born at first, if he should reject the determination of God and of his father, and should not resign himself up readily to both their pleasures; since it would have been unjust if he had not obeyed, even if his father alone had so resolved.? So he went immediately to the altar to be sacrificed. (233) And the deed had been done if God had not opposed it; for he called loudly to Abraham by his name, and forbade him to slay his son; and said, ?It was not out of a desire of human blood that he was commanded to slay his son, nor was he willing that he should be taken away from him whom he had made his father, but to try the temper of his mind, whether he would be obedient to such a command. (234) Since, therefore, he now was satisfied as to his alacrity, and the surprising readiness he showed in his piety, he was delighted in having bestowed such blessings upon him; and that he would not be wanting in all sort of concern about him, and in bestowing other children upon him; and that his son should live to a very great age; that he should live a happy life, and bequeath a large estate to his children, who should be good and legitimate.? (235) He foretold, also, that his family should increase into many nations; {c} and that those patriarchs should leave behind them an everlasting name; that they should obtain the possession of the land of Canaan, and be envied by all men. When God had said this, he produced for them a ram, which did not appear before, for the sacrifice. (236) So Abraham and Isaac receiving each other unexpectedly, and having obtained the promises of such great blessings, embraced one another; and when they had sacrificed, they returned to Sarah, and lived happily together, God affording them his assistance in all things they desired.
{a} Note, that both here and #Heb 11:17, Isaac is called Abraham?s only begotten son, though he at the same time had another son, Ishmael. The Septuagint expresses the true meaning, by rendering the text the beloved son.
{b} Here is an obvious error in the copies, which say that King David afterward built the temple on this Mount Moriah, while it was certainly no other than King Solomon who built that temple, as indeed Procopius cites it from Josephus. For it was for certain David, and not Solomon, who built the first altar there, as we learn, #2Sa 24:18-25 1Ch -27 {See Jospehus Antiq. 7.13.4 111 @@ "(334)"}
Gen_22:13-14(Barnes)
A ram behind. - For ?behind? we have ?one? in the Samaritan, the Septuagint, Onkelos, and some MSS. But neither a ?single ram? nor a ?certain ram? adds anything suitable to the sense. We therefore retain the received reading. The voice from heaven was heard from behind Abraham, who, on turning back and lifting up his eyes, saw the ram. This Abraham took and offered as a substitute for Isaac. Both in the intention and in the act he rises to a higher resemblance to God. He withholds not his only son in intent, and yet in fact he offers a substitute for his son. ?Jehovah-jireh?, the Lord will provide, is a deeply significant name. He who provided the ram caught in the thicket will provide the really atoning victim of which the ram was the type. In this event we can imagine Abraham seeing the day of that pre-eminent seed who should in the fullness of time actually take away sin by the sacrifice of himself. ?In the mount of the Lord he will be seen.? This proverb remained as a monument of this transaction in the time of the sacred writer. The mount of the Lord here means the very height of the trial into which he brings his saints. There he will certainly appear in due time for their deliverance.
Gen ? (Clarke)
Jehovah - jireh - יהוה יראה Yehovah - yireh , literally interpreted in the margin, The Lord will see; that is, God will take care that every thing shall be done that is necessary for the comfort and support of them who trust in him: hence the words are usually translated, The Lord will provide; so our translators, Gen_22:8, אלהים יראה Elohim yireh , God will provide; because his eye ever affects his heart, and the wants he sees his hand is ever ready to supply. But all this seems to have been done under a Divine Impulse, and the words to have been spoken prophetically; hence Houbigant and some others render the words thus: Dominus videbitur, the Lord shall be seen; and this translation the following clause seems to require, As it is said to this day, בהר יהוה יראה behar Yehovah yeraeh , On This Mount The Lord Shall Be Seen. From this it appears that the sacrifice offered by Abraham was understood to be a representative one, and a tradition was kept up that Jehovah should be seen in a sacrificial way on this mount. And this renders the opinion stated on Gen_22:1 more than probable, viz., that Abraham offered Isaac on that very mountain on which, in the fullness of time, Jesus suffered. See Bishop Warburton.
Gen ?(Wesley) And Abraham called the place Jehovah - jireh - The Lord will provide. Probably alluding to what he had said, Gen_22:8. God will provide himself a lamb - This was purely the Lord's doing: let it be recorded for the generations to come; that the Lord will see; he will always have his eyes upon his people in their straits, that he may come in with seasonable succour in the critical juncture. And that he will be seen, be seen in the mount, in he greatest perplexities of his people; he will not only manifest but magnify his wisdom, power and goodness in their deliverance. Where God sees and provides, he should be seen and praised. And perhaps it may refer to God manifest in the flesh.
(Henry)Jehovah-jireh, The Lord will provide (Gen_22:14), probably alluding to what he had said (Gen_22:8), God will provide himself a lamb. I was not owing to any contrivance of Abraham, nor was it in answer to his prayer, though he was a distinguished intercessor; but it was purely the Lord's doing. Let it be recorded for the generations to come, 1. That the Lord will see; he will always have his eye upon his people in their straits and distresses, that he may come in with seasonable succour in the critical juncture. 2. That he will be seen, be seen in the mount, in the greatest perplexities of his people. He will not only manifest, but magnify, his wisdom, power, and goodness, in their deliverance. Where God sees and provides, he should be seen and praised. And, perhaps, it may refer to God manifest in the flesh.
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What I feel about jehovahs-witness.com
by inquirer ini knew about this site ages ago.
and i always thought it was a good site.
there's always an interesting discussion here and there.
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MAHABA
Thank you for your warm welcome. Use and abuse of Kingdom hole. No copyright. Et bonne journée à toi, Française? from a fellow unbieliver(in the WT) of the international post-Mirador brotherhood.
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What I feel about jehovahs-witness.com
by inquirer ini knew about this site ages ago.
and i always thought it was a good site.
there's always an interesting discussion here and there.
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MAHABA
It's OK!