something i have been wondering about lately.. whether you believe in god or not, are a christian or some other religion or no religion at all, i'd be interested in your opinion.. according to those who believe in the bible including most christians, god condemns the use of 'special' powers/abilities.
for example, esp, tarot, astrology, consulting a medium, spells etc.
however, if god created us, did he not give us the ability to develop and use such powers?
>Berten, are you suggesting that supernatural talents have been demonstrated and that the evidence was rejected out of hand by skeptics? >Details, please.
No,I am suggesting that "Skeptics" are just as much "believers" as those that don't call themselves "Skeptics".
They just don't allow "paranormal phenomena" into their beliefsystem...
something i have been wondering about lately.. whether you believe in god or not, are a christian or some other religion or no religion at all, i'd be interested in your opinion.. according to those who believe in the bible including most christians, god condemns the use of 'special' powers/abilities.
for example, esp, tarot, astrology, consulting a medium, spells etc.
however, if god created us, did he not give us the ability to develop and use such powers?
>I'm a skeptic and don't believe in any special powers. I believe in coincidences though. If a special power was real
But *what* is "real"?
>then it could be validated by a controlled test. So far that hasn't happened...
And it never will,because a "skeptic" also *believes*:
He believes that "paranormal" things cannot happen,so they do not exist in his belief -"matrix".
(Why is a skeptic's house never haunted?)
any of you try giving up carbs?
i have a slamming headache from restricting my carb intake...anyone experience this and when does the headache subside?
Anyone seen the "Horizon" documentary on the Atkins diet?
Check their forum on http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/horizon/
The reason it works is because your appetite lessens,so a smaller amount of calories are entering your body...
i saw the photodrama of creation in bethel in color.
i didnt care for it.
2001
ive seen the one with kevin costner.
"perfect world" i think, any others?
>I've never seen this but it came up on a search on the internet movie database.
>Isis
The movie is called "Uitgesloten" (Disfellowshiped).I've seen it on Dutch television and it gives
a quite accurate picture on how the disfellowshiped are treated by JW's.
As far as I know,this is the only movie where JW's are the main part o/t story...
ive seen the one with kevin costner.
"perfect world" i think, any others?
If I'm not mistaken there was this woman in the movie "Blue Velvet" who pretended to be a JW,
so as to be able to enter one's apartment...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3333995.stm
us ready to seize gulf oil in 1973 by paul reynolds .
bbc news online world affairs correspondent .
>...Is it your contention, then, that these "weapons dealers" run the US? If so...where's the proof?
So I guess that in your opinion the dealers have *no* influence at all on US war policy? Yeah right :-)
As for proof;just look at the new *toys* they got to try out at last year's war in Iraq...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3333995.stm
us ready to seize gulf oil in 1973 by paul reynolds .
bbc news online world affairs correspondent .
>...Modern war is NEVER profitable...ever.
Except for the weapons dealers of course :-)
first of all, i would like to thank everyone who responded to my first posting regarding the hidden images thing.
i will admit that, after re-reading my initial post, i sounded like some sort of a paranoid alarmist, and i really did deserve the flack i received from some of you folks.. let me just say that there probably isn't a single x-jw who doesn't feel as though they have been duped to some degree with regard to the so-called "bible truth" they received while serving the organization.
many x-jws firmly use the terms "manipulation", "fear", "deception", and even more .
>...someone just trying to amuse themselves in the art department. >I would imagine after working in the art department at bethel for a >few years one would try to find something/anything to amuse themselves... These illustrations stretch over several years,and you really believe that all this time those "funny" guys at the art department are/were getting away with having their fun without being called to order?This in such a heavily controlled environment like the WTS?
first of all, i would like to thank everyone who responded to my first posting regarding the hidden images thing.
i will admit that, after re-reading my initial post, i sounded like some sort of a paranoid alarmist, and i really did deserve the flack i received from some of you folks.. let me just say that there probably isn't a single x-jw who doesn't feel as though they have been duped to some degree with regard to the so-called "bible truth" they received while serving the organization.
many x-jws firmly use the terms "manipulation", "fear", "deception", and even more .
This link might interest you,in case you did not know it already:
http://www.davidicke.net/mindcontrol/subliminal/jw/sjw091900.html
