okay, okay...let's not get all testy here and generalize and put people into groups that's not what the thread is about.
StillAwitness- I understand what you're saying. It's true many people don't know Francois-Dominique Toussaint L'Ouverture or Marcus Garvey were. But most people don't know who W.E.B. Du Bois, Martin Delany, Medgar Evers, Eldridge Cleaver, Shirley Anita St. Hill Chisholm, Sojourner Truth, Phillis Wheatley, Robert L. Hill, George Washington Bush, Asa Philip Randolph, Oscar De Priest, Oscar Micheaux, P.B.S. Pinchback, Jean-Baptiste Pointe du Sable, Marvel Cooke, Frederick Douglass, Arthur Mitchell, Oscar Dunn, Crispus Attucks, Angela Davis, Benjamin Banneker,Charles Chesnutt, Vivien Thomas, Ralph Bunche, Peter Spencer, Nat Turner, Sgt. William H. Carney, Robert Rillieux...and many more...see what I'm saying stillAw?? These are all african americans listed and it's a very short list. Don't say screw black American history....since that's exactly what this thread is about.
Like I said before, I'd like it if African American history was just the same as the rest of american history but looking at my nephew's history book I see it's not...and as lisaBObeesa pointed out, so maybe there's a need for black history month...although as Mrs. Jones and Chris Rock observed, it is the shortest month in the year...odd. And not just that--my younger nephew was excited the other day (after his last day of school before the holiday break) because his teacher said that when they got back they were going to start preparing for a school presentation about black history. He's part african american but he doesn't have his heritage brought up but once a year. It's just kind of depressing to me that this happens.
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Black History Month? Is it separation or just realistic?
by under74 inso i got to thinking after seeing 60 minutes this last week.
morgan freeman said black history month is "ridiculous" and pointed out that it keeps african-americans seperated from other americans.
i guess my thinking is that the school text books haven't really changed since i was in school.
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Do you know where the first person you had sex with, lives now?
by free2beme ini was actually baptized in my early 20's, so i spent some time as a teen and early twenties doing things that were not witness-like.
one of those things was sex out of marriage and to be honest, i have no regrets.
i have wondered though sometimes, where is that person i shared such a landmark moment with in life.
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No, have no idea where he is or what he does. It was a long time ago, we were both teenagers, and I never felt the need to keep up with his ongoings.
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Black History Month? Is it separation or just realistic?
by under74 inso i got to thinking after seeing 60 minutes this last week.
morgan freeman said black history month is "ridiculous" and pointed out that it keeps african-americans seperated from other americans.
i guess my thinking is that the school text books haven't really changed since i was in school.
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They have black History Month in Germany?? :)
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Black History Month? Is it separation or just realistic?
by under74 inso i got to thinking after seeing 60 minutes this last week.
morgan freeman said black history month is "ridiculous" and pointed out that it keeps african-americans seperated from other americans.
i guess my thinking is that the school text books haven't really changed since i was in school.
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So I got to thinking after seeing 60 minutes this last week. Morgan Freeman said Black History month is "ridiculous" and pointed out that it keeps African-Americans seperated from other Americans.
I guess my thinking is that the school text books haven't really changed since I was in school. My nephew who's in 7th grade showed me his history book for school and it seems no different from when I was in 5th grade--a paragraph about Harriet Tubman, one sentence about George Washington Carver, a page about Rosa Parks and Martin Luther King and one sentence about Malcolm X. This I think shows how little people in the US know about what an impact African Americans have had in this country. So I don't know...I think african american history should be the same as regular american history...the same way I think Borders shouldn't have a seperate section for African American authors. At the same time as far as history goes I don't think anything can change until textbooks and those teaching history become more educated on the matter.
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Dear Santa
by Frannie Banannie input this into your browser or click on the link, it's hysterical!
http://members.aol.com/frogiearno/dearsanta.htm
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here's my results-
Dear Santa,
I have been a good girl.
It really wasn't my fault what happened at mark's Office party. It was fiona who spiked the punch with too much whiskey. I can't help it if I drank 7 glasses. It was so good---smelled and tasted just like sage.
I thought it was funny when I put dennis's shirt on my head and danced the salsa on the chair while singing `purple rain'. I didn't mean to break mark's ham raidio and don't know why mark would accuse me of involuntary manslaughter.
I don't remember calling henry's wife a fabulous hog---even though she looked like one with red eye shadow and lavender lipstick!
And when I threw up on lynn's husband's elbow, it was only because I ate too much of that pita bread.
After all that fun, I admit I was a little tired. So I fell asleep on my way home and drove my SUV through my neighbor's closet. I don't think that was any reason for my neighbor to call me a unable bobcat and have me arrested for assault!
So, Santa...here I sit in my jail cell on Christmas Eve, all ugliest and uglier. And I'm really not to blame for any of this meanest stuff. Please bring me what I want the most---bail money!
Sincerely and very yours,
under74 (Really a nice girl!)
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What are your children doing on the internet?
by TD in---stories like this make my trigger finger twitch.
boy's web cam opens portal to a grim worldby kurt eichenwald the new york times .
monday, december 19, 2005. .
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it's very disturbing. I thought the reply from Slate was interesting as well...not sure I totally agree but I think it's interesting-- slate article
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SO...what do you all think???
by under74 insome of you know there was a big blow up with my family at thanksgiving because i started a thread about it.
others that don't know...please look up my past post if you're curious.
but in brief my older brother had a major anger tantrum (shoving me because i disagreed with him, punching the wall)....nothing new, he's been having a lot of these fits over the past 2 years.
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Dansk- Thank you. You're right, he does need help and it's true that he's not going to see this by our family trying to point this out. So I'm just going to do like you said.
billygoat- Sometimes all you can do is make animal comparisons, right? They tend to live on instincts rather than cool headed reasoning. Thanks for your input, it's very much appreciated.
jgnat- Ya, true. Thing is everyone sees it...but to keep peace with him there's a lot of ignoring bad behavior. It's not my sister-in-law...my younger sister is the one that initiated the talking on Saturday and my older sister is the one that ended up taking all the blame in order to avoid another rage. Thing is, with my older sister--a lot of these major outbursts (around the family--they've happenned elsewhere) have had to do with my older brother wanting to discipline her kids. But it's not just about punishing it's like he wants just as much say in what happens to them as she does even though he's their uncle. He doesn't see that there's a line between being a parent and being an uncle.
No worries about them guilting me. I think the 2 that have tried to do this are my younger sister and my mom. But so I'm going to do what you say and only talk to them about it when they've initiated it. Until then I'm just going to back off and have a good holiday. Thanks for the advice.
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SO...what do you all think???
by under74 insome of you know there was a big blow up with my family at thanksgiving because i started a thread about it.
others that don't know...please look up my past post if you're curious.
but in brief my older brother had a major anger tantrum (shoving me because i disagreed with him, punching the wall)....nothing new, he's been having a lot of these fits over the past 2 years.
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Thanks everyone. I know others in the family want him to get help before his rages are becoming more frequent but also just want to get through the holidays...I think I'm just going to throw my hands up and get on with Christmas.
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The Life of an Atheist and Agnostic
by Golf in.
what do you base your hopes,dreams,aspirations and your eventuality on?
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I think I have many of the same hopes and dreams as believers (have a good life and have many joys)...I just don't think that if things go bad that it'll all be sorted out later in heaven or after armegeddon. I have to sort it all out now if I can or do it now and not wait.
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SO...what do you all think???
by under74 insome of you know there was a big blow up with my family at thanksgiving because i started a thread about it.
others that don't know...please look up my past post if you're curious.
but in brief my older brother had a major anger tantrum (shoving me because i disagreed with him, punching the wall)....nothing new, he's been having a lot of these fits over the past 2 years.
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Some of you know there was a big blow up with my family at Thanksgiving because I started a thread about it. Others that don't know...please look up my past post if you're curious. BUT in brief my older brother had a major anger tantrum (shoving me because I disagreed with him, punching the wall)....nothing new, he's been having a lot of these fits over the past 2 years.
So Saturday, we all got together because my cousin, his wife and newborn were visiting. First time I've seen or spoken to my older brother since Thanksgiving. Anyway, everything was, a little tense, but okay while my cousin and his family were there. They left and a while later my younger sister starts trying to get all of us at the table...you know...I'll give her credit for raising the subject but she basically in her non-rational-"I don't want this to ruin MY christmas"-way tried to spread blame around. This was fine with my older brother because he didn't have to take any real responsibility. Ended up where my older sister apoligized to him instead of him apologizing to her.
When it came to me he kept saying I was a "man-hater"--which I think means if I disagree with him and say so to his face, I hate all men...and yes, i was insensitive and started laughing everytime he said it. But what can you do with someone who refuses to see you as a person rather than a gender? For christsake, my 2 closest friends for the past 10 years are male. I don't have gender issues...I have issues with him having gender issues. Please ask if you need more explanation.
I left mid-way through the conversation after my older sister started taking blame for his rages--most of which have had nothing to do with her or anyone in our family. I heard through my other brother that the conversation kept going back to him saying he blew up at Thanksgiving because me and my mother kept "egging him on" and "we hated men."
I don't even know what to say anymore...not just to him but also to the rest of my family. I know everyone just wants things to be okay for Christmas and so do I, but I just can't deal with him anymore. He only takes responsibility for so much...but always in some way ends up blaming others for causing him to get "angry"--he says "angry" I say "raving crazy."
I don't know what to do anymore. We tried a just after Thanksgiving to talk to my brother (he wouldn't talk to me though) about what happened at Thanksgiving (and in a non-accusing way) but it always ends up being someone elses fault.
I don't know what to do. Anyone have advice?