I don't like Justin...he's too full of himself...plus he's related to samuel L Jackson, so I don't think it's fair:P
I think Nikki made it becuase she had a better look, that's pretty much it.
am i the only shmuck on this board watching this every week?
please say i'm not.
I don't like Justin...he's too full of himself...plus he's related to samuel L Jackson, so I don't think it's fair:P
I think Nikki made it becuase she had a better look, that's pretty much it.
i hate to see people get banned or silenced - even the people who are causing trouble.
when it comes to regulations, i could almost be described as libertarian.
because of this i would like to make a proposal - instead of leaving the banning power in the hands of a central authority, i propose that banning be placed in the hands of the individual.
What other reason is needed?
One that was in clear violation of the terms of agreement I agreed upon when registering.
I don't need to insinuate that which I can clearly state. I think that, in this instance, your point of view is illogical and irrational, in that you are creating issues of freedom of speech where none exist.
I say insinuate because if I yell 'personal attack' you'll be all over me.
Hmmm...when have i created issues of free speech? You put Dans words in my mouth. A few people seem to confuse agreeing with the right to say something with agreeing with what is said. I have only ever stated it as an issue of closed mindedness.
i hate to see people get banned or silenced - even the people who are causing trouble.
when it comes to regulations, i could almost be described as libertarian.
because of this i would like to make a proposal - instead of leaving the banning power in the hands of a central authority, i propose that banning be placed in the hands of the individual.
Lilac-much of my last statement shows I have no wish to bring this up and was commenting on something else.
I personally am involved with the graffiti scene and wanted to post a comment in regards to a comment refering to it
Someone else chose to raise the topic again and I also stated that I'm over it.
You're beating a dead horse. I've already been here. I'm more interested in the analogy I commented on and it's poster now.
Read my posts before you comment please.
I'm a consenting adult and I chose to post here just like you. geez!
You do realise you just add to it by making your comment.
i hate to see people get banned or silenced - even the people who are causing trouble.
when it comes to regulations, i could almost be described as libertarian.
because of this i would like to make a proposal - instead of leaving the banning power in the hands of a central authority, i propose that banning be placed in the hands of the individual.
Nope. Simon is currently using his domain property as a discussion forum. This is entirely his choice, and because the domain is his private property he can change this at any time. He could change it tomorrow to a Britney Spears fan site, and that would be entirely within his prerogatives. If this site was public, it would hardly be owned by one person in that way would it? Also, if this site was public, you wouldn't have to register to become a member to use it. Simon has a domain and he currently chooses to let others post messages to it. That is the bottom line, and everything else is pie in the sky.
But simon has granted public access to his 'property' much like a mall. Everything is owned by someone, even that which is open to the public. Sure I registered, but i guess i missed the clause about bugging the wrong person getting you expelled. I have yet to hear a clear and consise reason for Dans demise on this board other than he annoyed it's owner. This is petty. I will complain. I am within the terms of the registering agreement to do so, since I have to watch that now.
If you owned the wall, you could do whatever you liked, within the laws of the land. Just because people object, doesn't mean their objections have any logical or rational basis.
Things aren't that black and white and you know it. I could go on for ever with this back and forth of how this instance would make your past comment invalid and this instance makes my comment invalid but I'm just not that bothered. I personally am involved with the graffiti scene and wanted to post a comment in regards to a comment refering to it. But of course you've got to pick appart what i say and bring up things I've posted else where, in what I can only think is some attempt to get me to break down and say how right you all are and how illogical all I have spoken on this matter was. Well I'm quite fond of my convictions and feel, in this instance, that i do have a valid view point. You're beating a dead horse. I've already been here. I'm more interested in the analogy I commented on and it's poster now.
Your level of tiredness has no relevance to the value and accuracy of the analogy.
Boy...you'll grasp at anything won't you. This is getting silly.
I don't find it to be a logical analogy at all. When everyone parrots the same phrase it just doesn't seem like they're thinking before they type. But then I'm illogical, irrational and irrelivant by your insinuations.
i hate to see people get banned or silenced - even the people who are causing trouble.
when it comes to regulations, i could almost be described as libertarian.
because of this i would like to make a proposal - instead of leaving the banning power in the hands of a central authority, i propose that banning be placed in the hands of the individual.
If you were advocating to do it specifically to Jan H i would want to know why before commiting to either side.
i hate to see people get banned or silenced - even the people who are causing trouble.
when it comes to regulations, i could almost be described as libertarian.
because of this i would like to make a proposal - instead of leaving the banning power in the hands of a central authority, i propose that banning be placed in the hands of the individual.
Actually nothing on the web is private and your going to get in sticky water trying to censor it. Simon has created a public forum. If I put up a free wall( a wall designed for graffiti artist) and then someone tags(writes) something I don't like, so I make up a rule so I can get rid of it, I would think that people would object to that too.I am getting so tired of this 'you walked into his house' analogy.
Naeblis said it best:
" I don't remember forcing Simon to open this board, and if he wasn't here there would be another one so I don't particularly feel any great debt to Simon for the volunteer work he does of his own accord. He opened this board and let people post wahtever they wanted, that was part of the lure here as we laughed at the poor witnesses that had their words edited and censored by the JW Nazi moderators, so now he wants to change that all the while I'm told that "we're lucky this board is even here"
Edited by - Bgurltryal on 19 August 2002 19:11:9
Edited by - Bgurltryal on 19 August 2002 19:33:24
i hate to see people get banned or silenced - even the people who are causing trouble.
when it comes to regulations, i could almost be described as libertarian.
because of this i would like to make a proposal - instead of leaving the banning power in the hands of a central authority, i propose that banning be placed in the hands of the individual.
Actually...it's not protected under free speech as it's considered vandalism and infringes on private property laws.
i am being very serious here, i am having some thoughts on the subject of sex.
what is it that determines the way you view sex?
is it upbringing, or genes?
Every ex-JW I've met around my age (23) is extremely sexual or they're sexually confused.
looking at this board and the various kinds of thoughts, beliefs, maturity levels, insecurities, as well as an individuals time span on this board one main dilemma seems to keep popping up, that dilemma is freedom of expression verses the possible alienation of a new poster fresh out of the jw mindset.. the board wars (or being able to express a controversial and contrary opinion) and the use of colorful language (my personal favorite) seem to be jeopardized because of the concern of possibly loosing or offending an important new poster who we all have to agree means something to us all (we were all there once in our lives).
the dilemma seems to ride on personal freedoms of old and established poster who are not easily offended by controversial things and the sensitivity of those who are experiencing the real world for possibly the first time in their lives and have just made a dramatic life change.. i personally am very concerned about a new poster who is confused and looking for some answers, i think most of us are.
i completely understand simon's wishes to try and not offend them.
Also, if a poster gets out of hand, instead of deleting their account, You give them a warning and if they persist, you just send them back to babyland and start their level of posts back at 1. If they persist then you delete their account. If they are a troll and they want to use several new account names and play games, they will never get up to 250 posts and thus will stay out of the more controversial threads. If they are a troll and we cannot see that fact within 250 posts then possibly they are not a troll or we are just too stupid to see that they are.
I like this idea. One should get a warning and explenation of exactly what one is doing wrong before one is simply wiped from exhistance, in my opinon.
where are the most reasonable people these days?
i continue to learn about relationships and i've learned a lot from dating.
you never know until you've spent time with someone whether or not they will be there for you in the long run.
It's in the dating, relationships & sex forum so it's fine. I don't quite understand your question though.