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FDS claims to be a spirit medium.... are they?

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the former board of directors, now the back seat drivers via a group of minions, claim to be spirit mediums.

pick up any watchtower magazine, and in one of the two (or sometimes three) articles, somewhere will be the ever repeated -like a broken record- phrase, the "faithful and discreet slave" followed by matthew 24:45.. the watchtower synod then, claims to have "special knowledge" as it's called, and say that they are the only approved "communication" with god, who we all know dwells in the spirit realm.. therefore, the governing body lays claim to being a 'go-between' or "medium" between man and god (the spirit).

there's no two ways about it, they even use the term "channel", which means they are "channeling".. taking it one step farther, to consult the watchtower magazine would then be to consult "a spirit medium" making watchtower readers ones who consult spirit mediums.. what then does the bible teach about those who would lay claim to being "spirit mediums", as well as those who would "consult" them?

biblexaminer

Because a "spirit medium" is defined as someone who claims to be able to communicate with the spirits of dead humans.

Interesting, but where did you get this definition? Dead humans are not spirits. They are dead. In the Bible, which JWs claim to believe in, a spirit is clearly ALIVE, and is a demon, or fallen angel.

In the Bible, there were many approved spirit mediums. They were called prophets. A prophet is an approved communication with the spirit realm, and IS BACKED UP BY WORKS.

The GB losers claim to be prophets, but since their claim is false, they are reduced to the ranks of a crystal ball-gazing "spirit medium".

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FDS claims to be a spirit medium.... are they?

by biblexaminer in

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the former board of directors, now the back seat drivers via a group of minions, claim to be spirit mediums.

pick up any watchtower magazine, and in one of the two (or sometimes three) articles, somewhere will be the ever repeated -like a broken record- phrase, the "faithful and discreet slave" followed by matthew 24:45.. the watchtower synod then, claims to have "special knowledge" as it's called, and say that they are the only approved "communication" with god, who we all know dwells in the spirit realm.. therefore, the governing body lays claim to being a 'go-between' or "medium" between man and god (the spirit).

there's no two ways about it, they even use the term "channel", which means they are "channeling".. taking it one step farther, to consult the watchtower magazine would then be to consult "a spirit medium" making watchtower readers ones who consult spirit mediums.. what then does the bible teach about those who would lay claim to being "spirit mediums", as well as those who would "consult" them?

biblexaminer

Interseting. Now, do you claim to have knowledge other than the Bible, as though you had "special knowledge" to add to it's content, as does the GB "slave"?

The Watchtower leaders are not just claiming something for the Bible, they are making a claim for themselves, that they have more and superior knowledge, superior to the rank & file.

They are not claiming that the Bible is "the channel", but rather that they are the channel. And they say that God reveals things to them as "prophets".

I can read the Bible as well as any man. But I am willing to let the authority rest in His word. The GB attributes to itself "special wisdom" as a "channel" or medium. The talmudic volumes that they put out are an addition to His holy word.

Did God say the world would end in 1925 or 1975? They un-ashamedly DID. And they has the gall to claim that God Almighty revealed it to them, skipping past his ordained arrangement of Jesus as the go-between and claiming a type of "messiahship" of their own as a last days, so-called latter-day messiah-group which was prophecied to come.

Did God say we shouldn't take "alternative service", and languish in prison? Did He change his mind a few years later and say "it's all right now", sorry for the inconvenience? ie broken homes, wrecked lives etc...

They did. And they said "we are God's channel" a medium to the spirit realm, a mediator between God and you amharets.

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FDS claims to be a spirit medium.... are they?

by biblexaminer in

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the former board of directors, now the back seat drivers via a group of minions, claim to be spirit mediums.

pick up any watchtower magazine, and in one of the two (or sometimes three) articles, somewhere will be the ever repeated -like a broken record- phrase, the "faithful and discreet slave" followed by matthew 24:45.. the watchtower synod then, claims to have "special knowledge" as it's called, and say that they are the only approved "communication" with god, who we all know dwells in the spirit realm.. therefore, the governing body lays claim to being a 'go-between' or "medium" between man and god (the spirit).

there's no two ways about it, they even use the term "channel", which means they are "channeling".. taking it one step farther, to consult the watchtower magazine would then be to consult "a spirit medium" making watchtower readers ones who consult spirit mediums.. what then does the bible teach about those who would lay claim to being "spirit mediums", as well as those who would "consult" them?

biblexaminer

The former Board of Directors, now the back seat drivers via a group of minions, claim to be Spirit Mediums. Pick up any Watchtower magazine, and in one of the two (or sometimes three) articles, somewhere will be the ever repeated -like a broken record- phrase, the "Faithful and DIscreet Slave" followed by Matthew 24:45.

The Watchtower synod then, claims to have "special knowledge" as it's called, and say that they are the only approved "communication" with God, who we all know dwells in the spirit realm.

Therefore, the Governing Body lays claim to being a 'go-between' or "medium" between man and God (the spirit). There's no two ways about it, they even use the term "channel", which means they are "channeling".

Taking it one step farther, to consult the Watchtower magazine would then be to consult "a spirit medium" making Watchtower readers ones who consult spirit mediums.

What then does the Bible teach about those who would lay claim to being "spirit mediums", as well as those who would "consult" them?

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Making postcards to send to JWs

by D wiltshire in

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here are some postcard messages that i'm sending to freinds.. i think postcards are better to reach jws because the message is short and other may read it with out opening the letter, so you never know who will be helped.. dear_________________.

you must find out about the fear that the w.t.

organization has put in you, so will stay under their mind control.

biblexaminer

Speaking as a professional "mailman", I have been mailing for about one and a half years now. We here have spent about $700.oo cdn and have experimented with many approaches.

Since some of our participants are still on the "inside", we are able to get a very good picture of the fallout. We actually talk to those that are "hit", and we get a feel for what works.We now know what works and what does not.

How are things here? In my congregation, it is almost impossible to get somebody to volunteer to do a demonstration. Every publisher, from the PO to the pio's is squirming. They all want to spend as much time as possible in the coffie shop. It's all becoming a burden on the memb's and most are doing token service.

Money in the box is short. I have spoken to bro's in half a dozen congos who all relate that money is drying up. Bills are mounting. Elders spend an incredible amont of time in "elders meeting", because there's som much going down here.

ie: Sister Faithful gets blitzed. Sister Faithful becomes Sister Pitiful and elders x,y and z are at a loss to help her. Meanwhile, new brother M, almost got baptised, but has now quit outright. Everyone is disturbed and attendence has dropped dramatically.

And Brother circuit overmeister? Well, he's toooo busy. Lot's of apostasy around and his work is never done. He has no fingers left to plug holes with. He is drowning.

We know what works, and the future is ours!

What do they call you when.....

by biblexaminer in

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what does the wtbst-fds call you when you quit this dispicable organization?

apostate...no?.

it is interesting to note that it was job's 3 false comforters who came to him when he was down and out, and they called him apostate.

biblexaminer

What does the WTBST-FDS call you when you quit this dispicable organization? APOSTATE...no?

It is interesting to note that it was Job's 3 false comforters who came to him when he was down and out, and THEY CALLED HIM APOSTATE. And several times.

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Society's Arrogant Claim - "Spirit Appoint...

by metatron in

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over the past couple decades, the quality of watchtower writing.

and depth of scriptural reasoning has declined.

whatever illogic.

biblexaminer

Good post.

The FDS says they are THE "channel" to God. A channel is a go-between, a mediator, or in other words a "medium" (middle).

The FDS then openly claims the rank of "spirit medium",... and even lousy "mediums" today refer to their craft as "channeling".

The Word of God condemns such ones, and they are worthy of death!

In Revelation, John writes that any who would add to the Word of God, writing other books and proclaiming them equal to His Word and given from HIM, these ones stand condemned to recieve the plagues.

And there are plagues. Some have published the WTBTS's true message around my town, and the circuit overseer openly, in front of the entire circuit, called it a "plague".

And so it shall be.

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New BLOOD video.

by biblexaminer in

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i just finished watching the 'society's' new blood video.

it's interesting to note, but not out of character for them, that they clip the doctors in mid sentence.

in the same way they "selectively" use bible quotes, skipping around to present a false picture, they also cut and edit everything the doctors say, so as to make their blood dicta seem medically supported.. clip clip, cut cut, chop chop and voila!.

biblexaminer

I just finished watching the 'Society's' new blood video. It's interesting to note, but not out of character for them, that they clip the doctors in mid sentence. In the same way they "selectively" use bible quotes, skipping around to present a false picture, they also cut and edit everything the doctors say, so as to make their blood dicta seem medically supported.

Clip clip, cut cut, chop chop and voila!

Also, it is good to note that the "blood dicta" is supposed to be "Biblical", yet the entire effort of the blood tape is the medical approach.

I would say to them, "If it's a true bible teaching, then nothing on the tape is of any value at all". "Our" supposed "stand" would continue REGARDLESS of any of this medical mumbo. If it's from God, then we will die and that's that!

Yet the whole approach of this tape is to make blood look bad from a medical perspective. Really, it shouldn't matter at all, for if it's TRULY biblical, then the argument, and hence the video, is MOOT.

One last thing, on this tape, it's mentioned that JW's can utilize this one compound which is a "BLOOD PRODUCT". Hmmmmm, that should make some dub's think.

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Directed By Holy Spirit My Ass !!!

by Big Jim in

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dont you think that it is stupid when you hear the dubs say that all appointments are made by the jehovahs holy spirit?.

how many times have you heard of elders/ms etc.

that were commiting all sorts of wrong doings while at the same time serving and passing judgement on others.. i remember when i was appointed ms there was a brother that was appointed at the same time, that accepted the assignment and served for almost a year before they found out he was commiting adultery all the while.. then you have the pedophiles that operate within the congregation some being elders etc.. i know for a fact that i could be a fornicator/drug user/closet queer/ are anything bad and keep it secret and i could move up the ranks as high as i pleased.. hell i could even be a undercover apostate/fornicator/all of the above and still get appointed if i kissed enough ass.. i could pioneer and lie about the hours,they would never figure it out.

biblexaminer

I am "appointed" in the good 'ol congo, and I am the biggest APOSTATE of them all. I even slip stuff into my talks so as to stumble some of the sleepy bumps in the chairs.

So Freddy, am I appointed by "holy spirit", or "holy cow"?

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Pentecost 33CE What really happened.

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foreword.

and if they were not in the "upper chamber" at pentecost, where were they?

or is it "acts of the apostles"?

biblexaminer

I have read all these nice things that people wrote. In the end, it is absolutely true, and nobody here will contest I'm sure... that I or you nor anyone on this planet will live or die for our understanding or mis-understanding of these events. Can anyone prove I will die if I dont accept so and so's ideas?

Yet the WTS DOES say that I WILL die if I don't accept what the GB teaches. This proves they are wrong.

As well, I did not make the claim, as have others, that I had some revelation from God or Christ. Shame.

Nor do I use as the foundation for my exegeses "Ben Hur" or any other Hollywood production.

Those who insist on squashing 120 persons into a tiny "upper room" for some duration, only do so as the result of pressures to conform to some religious edict of a church organization or teachings from upbringing.

I hold to Scripture. I hold to common sense. I hold to love.

What REALLY ticks off the Society??

by biblexaminer in

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what do you think really "gets under the skin" of the almighty gb?.

i know of one thing.

when people are 'force fed' the washtower fable and act society message, without the usualt diluting, folkes get really pissed off and call the wts on the telephone, fax in their opinion to the wts about their vitriolic crap, and call the police!.

biblexaminer

What do you think really "gets under the skin" of the almighty GB?

I know of one thing. When people are 'force fed' the Washtower Fable and Act Society message, without the usualt diluting, folkes get REALLY PISSED OFF and call the WTS on the telephone, fax in their opinion to the WTS about their vitriolic crap, and call the police!

All of this is happening according to reports from the Canadian Branch Office of the Watchtower.

It hurts them so very, VERY much, that the Public Talk at the DC this year, all through North America, makes mention of it, although if you have not been privilged to view "the ugly thing" then you might not catch it.

So, if you are attending the DC this year, listen for the phrase "...and they mis-represent our message"

NOTE: To all you idiots at the NY headquarters who have the job of monitoring this and other sites, who are too stupid to see the truth about things even though you read everything, kiss my butt!