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  Superstitious people

  by biblexaminer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the world is filled with superstitious people.

  and some of the most superstitious are jehovah's witnesses.. remember, i didn't say they alone are the most superstitious, nor did i say they are on an island.

  how do we know that this is true?

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  "Carol1111an hour ago

  Why do they want you to touch the plate?"

  
  

  Exactly..
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  Superstitious people

  by biblexaminer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the world is filled with superstitious people.

  and some of the most superstitious are jehovah's witnesses.. remember, i didn't say they alone are the most superstitious, nor did i say they are on an island.

  how do we know that this is true?

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  biblexaminer

  The world is filled with superstitious people. And some of the most superstitious are Jehovah's Witnesses.

  Remember, I didn't say they alone are the most superstitious, nor did I say they are on an island.

  How do we know that this is true? Well, there are many ways. I will point to one.

  We know that Catholics are superstitious when we examine how they view the "Rosary". Sitting there counting their beads as if this will bring them life, health and prosperity. Catholics do not count beads thinking 'It makes no difference in my life, I will succeed or suffer regardless"... No.

  But what about Jehovah's Witnesses?

  Their superstitious thinking can be demonstrated in no better way than when one examines the Watchtower's 'Rosary beads', their icons, their "emblems". (their own word)

  Yes, nowhere can it be seen more clearly, and also nowhere can Satan's victory over them be more aptly demonstrated, than at their yearly "Memorial Celebration", their version of the "Last Supper". And it approaches.

  Visit the Kingdom Hall. See it for yourself. See it, with your eyes open.

  I'll sit at the back, where the attendant will have to bring the plate and the cup to me personally, and I will have to hand it back personally. Doing this is like a magnifying glass, a microscope, peering at the base essence of it, seeing the event in all its nakedness. A trip behind the curtain.

  I've actually done this. I will do it again.

  When it is time, the ones who are acting as attendants, and shuffling the "emblems", will approach me singularly. The plate advances toward me and the attendant fully expects me to take it into my hand. But alas, a few steps away, I raise my hand as if to swear an oath in court and I gently say "no thanks". And then I look into his eyes.

  Now, at this point, I have been offered the "emblems" the same as anyone else in audience, to eat or to decline. Persons in the audience take the plate or glass into their hand as a matter of convenience, a strictly mechanical act allowing the mass production of this event in the life of everyone present within the time given, because each has to give it to the next person and so on.

  So the base superstition can be concealed there. But not if you sit alone, and pull back the cover.

  As I look into the eyes of the attendant, I see fear. The longer I refuse to take the plate into my hand, the more grave his look becomes. And then I give him a break. I reach out and touch the plate. Just a touch. And I see it. I see the relief as it cascades through his facial features. The agony he was just feeling melts away, and he's better now. His ravenous superstition has been fed. The beast is kept at bay. Life goes on.

  I didn't want to give him that relief. I wanted him to carry it home, that pain, that knot in his gut that would make him toss and turn all night. But I did. For the sake of peace in the family. To keep the charade going for the elderly loved ones in our life. I let him off.

  But, I only gave a little the last time. Nay did he a full meal give his beast, that 'superstition within'.

  Whereas the first time I did this, I eventually took the emblems into my hand, the last time I merely reached out to touch the plate, like a sinner stretching out his hand to be healed by Christ's garment. Like a Catholic that would reach for the Shroud of Turin. He got some relief. Just some.

  The "Memorial". Did Christ command what Watchtower does? Jesus never said that there should be spectators. At what He instituted, there was 100% participation. If the Watchtower were to actually do something close to what He commanded, then their precious 144k remnant would meet privately and have it done. And we could hear all about it later.

  But Satan wants otherwise. Every year, Satan goes to Jesus and says ..'here see, they don't want you, they let your offering, your sacrifice pass them by'. "Jesus", he tells, "you died for nothing."

  Satan has won a battle. Not the war. No. But a battle. He has used one of his institutions to take millions away and turn them to men. To himself.

  This year, perhaps I will take a rabbit's foot to the Memorial. When they offer me the "emblems" I will wave it too & fro. I will say..."thanks...I'm good... got it covered"
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  Question about visiting bethel ... akward moment at the end

  by nevaagain in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  since there a couple of ex-bethelites here, and a lot of people from the greater ny area who have probably visited the bethel in brooklyn and patterson many times, maybe they can shed some light into this curious question we (my wife and me) have for awhile.. so a couple of years ago, we happaned to be in the states and also went to visit the bethels in brooklyn and patterson.

  we had the full package, what i mean is, not only we took the tour, but we also had someone to invite us for lunch.

  while we wanted to enjoy our stay there, there was always a weird feeling being there.

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  We have noted many giving the CO a nice gift or a golden handshake over the years. I imagine bethel speakers got the same. Not hard to imagine tour guides with their sweaty palms out.

  I would never give COs or BS (bethel speakers) a dime. In fact, we haven't put anything in the contribution box either in two decades. 20 yrs!

  But we have taken lots of literature and dumped it in the trash. That's where it belongs.

  Like the old woman said, as she peed into the sea, every little bit helps.
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  So Long Palmyra NY Hall

  by mrquik in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ah just more evidence of the work "speeding up during the time of the end".

  i helped build this hall.

  was appointed as an ms & elder there.

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  More money down the rabbit hole.
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  Movement by the Australian Government

  by no-zombie in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  in responce to the royal commission into institutional responses to child sexual abuse held in australia last year, the state government of new south wales has passed legislation that removes the time limit on civil claims for child sexual abuse.

  while not applying to the whole of australia, its likely that the other state will follow nsw's example shortly.

  for those living outside of australia, it may be interesting to note that nsw is australia's largest state (by population) and therefore should cover approximately 30% of the country's of child abuse victims.. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-16/legislative-changes-remove-time-limit-for-child-abuse-victims/7172562.

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  The suffering ends when Watchtower is dead. But the salve of justice will help the wounds feel better.
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  Trey Bundy: One Year of Reporting JW Child Abuse - Your comments please!

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://watchtowerdocuments.org/trey-bundy-one-year-of-reporting-jw-child-abuse/.

  trey bundy: one year of reporting jw child abuse.

  it’s been one year since trey bundy first reported the watchtower’s child abuse problems.. twelve months ago the center for investigative reporting (cir) began publishing information about jehovah’s witnesses and their cover-up of child sexual abuse on their website, reveal.

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  I want to send Trey a fine bottle of wine and a card. Anyone got an address? It's not much, but it would send a message.
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  GB bites off more than they can chew!

  by biblexaminer in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the gb bit off more than they can chew.

  they promised that the nwt revised would be available in so many languages by now, and they have failed miserably.. english stands alone.

  as a result, they are in damage control mode.

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  I have to say I don't read the watchtower rag anymore and I don't pay attention at the study beyond having one comment for which I raise my hand. I prefer not to get asked, raising the hand for me is enough. Then I go back to what I was doing. I can be completely detached, as if I am not there.

  That said, my wife was the one that initially noticed the idea that the paragraph was intimating that the NWT rev.ed. was available in another language. I was, at first, uninterested. I don't care anymore what the hell goes on in that bastion of stupidity. But she was adamate. So, I decided to copy some of the quote and search for it on -on line watchtower-

  Lo and behold. It was from 2006/7
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  WATCHTOWER SCAM? WTWR NYSE

  by biblexaminer in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  in 2009, a new company, traded on the new york stock exchange was initiated.. watchtower inc. wtwr.

  corporate headquarters.

  100 henry streetbrooklyn, new york 11201united states.

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  I've been saying it at home for a while. The Watchtower is into it with the Jews.

  I've been convinced for some time that the Bible Students that went through the Nazi war camp's experience alongside Jews made some friends. And this resulted in an alliance of sorts, where old Jew's money helped Watchtower along.

  But, I believe that a new generation of Jews is asking back their investment. I believe that the NY buildings are being sold to satisfy a debt to Jewish families. (children)

  If that's the case, then the $1b forthcoming from the NY sales will disappear down the rabbit hole as fast as it appears.

  I have also come to believe that Bros and Sis's who were encouraged to go to Israel last year were used as mules to smuggle wealth out of the USA and into Israel.

  And before you call me a nut, I didn't come up with this on my own.

  A CO sat at my dinner table and told me in detail how missionaries come home, and have cash stashed in their luggage to smuggle out of the country on their return. He even detailed an experience of how one couple was almost caught!

  Eye opener for me.

  Where did the cash come from, I thought. I couldn't ask him... But where does cash come from? The contribution box. That would mean they have to keep two sets of books. One for the government to see, another for slush.

  Will we live long enough to discover?
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  GB bites off more than they can chew!

  by biblexaminer in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the gb bit off more than they can chew.

  they promised that the nwt revised would be available in so many languages by now, and they have failed miserably.. english stands alone.

  as a result, they are in damage control mode.

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  More on the New World Translation REVISED ED.

  Letter received.

  TO ALL CONGREGATIONS

  Re: Pocket-Size New World Translation

  Dear Brothers:

  In October 2014, it was announced that the pocket-size edition of the New World Translation in English ... It was limited to congregation publishers... the pocket-size edition of the New World Translation in any language in which it is available may now be distributed in the ministry ...

  Each of us treasures the valuable gift of the revised New World Translation ...Proper care and treatment of our personal copies reflect our high regard for God’s Word. For example, we endeavor to keep them neat, clean, and dry. By carefully keeping track of our personal copies,...

  • The first paragraph is discussing the OLD NWT in pocket size, not the revised ed.
  • The second paragraph is discussing the revised ed.

  This is desperation. The WTS is trying to confuse elders and publishers, including in this letter a paragraph extolling the value of the revised edition along with the news of increased availability of the pocket sized OLD edition. They again are trying to make it appear that the NWT and Jah's chariot are moving ahead.

  In reality, the letter has nothing to do with the revised edition. The second paragraph should be excluded. It's got nothing to do with the news in the letter.

  The letter tells the congo that we can order more of the OLD NWT pocket sized and give them away at the doors AND that we can stock them as a stock item.

  Further, they mention "in any language" in the first paragraph. There are no new languages introduced. And few have the pocket size in their language. But nothing is changed.

  They plant seeds. And so pubs will run along to the literature dude and ask for the NWT revised in Polish, or Spanish or what the hell ever language and the guy will say it's not available.

  And the gullible pub will run along, confused but still loving the GB.
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  WATCHTOWER SCAM? WTWR NYSE

  by biblexaminer in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  in 2009, a new company, traded on the new york stock exchange was initiated.. watchtower inc. wtwr.

  corporate headquarters.

  100 henry streetbrooklyn, new york 11201united states.

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  http://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/person.asp?personId=58830587&privcapId=35951450

  This is not a joke. And the Rabbi died in '94.. yes.

  You can't make this stuff up.