i had seen it before but never actually looked.. sure enough in july 15 2013 wt .... 17 in the past, we have stated in our publications that these last four references apply to jesus’ arriving, or coming, in 1918. as an example, take jesus’ statement about “the faithful and discreet slave.” (read matthew 24:45-47.
) we understood that the “arriving” mentioned in verse 46 was linked to the time when jesus came to inspect the spiritual condition of the anointed in 1918 and that the appointment of the slave over all the master’s belongings occurred in 1919.
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The biggest problem for WT though, is that the new "slave" teaching finds Christ making his first appointment at the end of his journey.
What "master of the house" would start off on a long journey away from the estate and leave NOBODY in charge for the bulk of his absence?
...only to sneak back "invisibly" just prior to his BIG PUBLIC RETURN and appoint one house member in charge of the entire house, so that when he makes his big entry, he can pat him on the back.
It's bullshight.
i had seen it before but never actually looked.. sure enough in july 15 2013 wt .... 17 in the past, we have stated in our publications that these last four references apply to jesus’ arriving, or coming, in 1918. as an example, take jesus’ statement about “the faithful and discreet slave.” (read matthew 24:45-47.
) we understood that the “arriving” mentioned in verse 46 was linked to the time when jesus came to inspect the spiritual condition of the anointed in 1918 and that the appointment of the slave over all the master’s belongings occurred in 1919.
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Londo1112 days agoThe new light on the "slave" a few years ago was that Jesus did not yet appoint the slave "over all his belongings" yet, but when they get to heaven to join the 144000. However, they still maintain in 1919 that Jesus appointed the slave to serve food at the proper time.
The problem the Watchtower has is that the verse only mentions the 'second coming' ONCE.
Whereas, WT teaching has him coming TWICE, the first 'second coming' to 'appoint' in 1919 and another, 2'nd--second coming, (third coming) at the GT.
Even if one were to accept WT teaching that the leaders were truly appointed (barf) by Christ, there's nothing to establish 1919 or any other time.
45 “Who
really is the faithful and discreet slave [supposed WT dudes] whom his master [Jesus] appointed [past tense] over his domestics, [everyone] to give them their food at the proper time?z46 Happy is that slave [GB] if his master [Jesus] on coming finds him doing so!a47 Truly I say to you, he will appoint him over all his belongings.
this is a little long, but stick with me.. if you recall, when the building work was in full swing at the new lakefront villa (warwick), wt was having workers come and they would put them up for a year, or more, while they were providing "volunteer services".
with that, and the impending need for hundreds and hundreds of new khs in the usa territory, the congregations were abuzz with the need for "continued construction volunteers".
recently, as many of you know, wt headquarters has sent pretty much everyone home, and is no longer needing workers at the new warwick site, as the building is mostly complete, with the dedication coming up later this year.
Thanks for that account(s). I believe every word.
Here, in our Canadian town, we have benefited from the Watchtower cuts. The Lord taketh away, and the Lord giveth dem back. 1 Recommendations 1:9
It seems that the Canadian Branch found ample reason to make deep cuts also. Due to these cuts, we have recently had some fabulously spiritual ones return to town, heads hung low and poor. One couple, still young enough to do so, restarted their life. They found sufficient work and bought a house, and they are renovating. But when you talk to them in the quiet aside, their true emotions emerge. They are disappointed. And their actions demonstrate that it's "me time"... nuff a' dem.
The sister/bro-in-law of this pair, also evicted, not doing quite as well. They have to shack down where they can at the mercy of others. Pick the bones of the economy and try to muddle along. I haven't talked to them much, but they can't be very happy. No, not with their quality of life struggle.
There's another couple here too. I don't know them, but I hear about their struggles too. They got the pink slip and moved here because it's supposedly cheap. Getting less cheap everyday.
I have to imagine this is a universal trend.
but pretty much all of them are now dead.
and so are billions of others.
so, god doesn't desire any to be destroyed but desires all to attain to repentance?
How can a room full of people, as happened last night at the kingdumbhall, sit there and look at that highlighted box in the study of the Kingdom Book, and read Rutherford's false prophecy, and be okay with it?
Lights on but nobody's home.
hey folks.
i have been looking for the latest on shunning of those who have drifted.
i recall the 2016 convention had a part, and i believe there was a video.
Dog. Thanks for that. I don't have any information from that convention. I try to sleep through.
I wonder if anyone has something.
hey folks.
i have been looking for the latest on shunning of those who have drifted.
i recall the 2016 convention had a part, and i believe there was a video.
Whole lotta' shunnin' goin' on
sounds like a line in a song
Its going to take some time and a bottle of Pepto to go over all last years rags to find that comment
hey folks.
i have been looking for the latest on shunning of those who have drifted.
i recall the 2016 convention had a part, and i believe there was a video.
Not quite getting there yet. I recall one of the WT study's had an article that mentions about those who express doubts and voice them by saying that the end will not come in their lifetime.
I am looking over the articles now.
hey folks.
i have been looking for the latest on shunning of those who have drifted.
i recall the 2016 convention had a part, and i believe there was a video.
Thanks everyone so far. I was actually thinking of the Watchtower study we had late 2016 that talked about individuals in the Congo that say "the end will not come in my lifetime".
Dont make me go and read all them damned rags.
hey folks.
i have been looking for the latest on shunning of those who have drifted.
i recall the 2016 convention had a part, and i believe there was a video.
Hey folks. I have been looking for the latest on shunning of those who have drifted.
I recall the 2016 convention had a part, and I believe there was a video. As well, there was a WT study last year that talked about they who say "it's not coming in my lifetime" as being pretty well apostate.
Help one, help all. Thanks
the elders in this area are getting burned out.
i have overheard comments that demonstrate this, but in my dealings with them, i clearly see it.
they can't keep it straight.
A lot of good comments here. Since I posted this, I have had contact with a bro who was an elder here but who now doesn't even attend meetings. He totally bummed out.
But ultimately, he is still hooked on Watchtower. WT has been his god and WT will continue to be his god.
Only now, he wants to complain about his god... while it's still his god.
