Posts by mann377

When I was at Bethel in the 70's there were several brothers that had some serious mental issues. They were given a ticket home. If the infirmary can't handle it ....you're gone!

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Were the bethelites disappointed when they moved out of Brooklyn?

by GabeAthouse in

jw
friends

anyone know of anyone who was serving at the time of the move?

i know a few former jw's who were at brooklyn who have told me that the actual bethel experience was kind of a drag but it was kinda cool to experience living in nyc for a couple of years.

i visited a relative who was serving, years ago and went into the apartment he shared.

Can't speak for anyone else but when I was transferred from Brooklyn to the farm back in '73 I was a bit taken back. Thinking I would be in the middle of no where. After about four months I bought a car (went home for a vacation and bought it). It was great to have the freedom to go all over the place. Many times I would just go after work and drive in the mountains (the Gunks) and watch the sunset. Every time I walked past my car I knew that was my transportation out at any time. Having that freedom was intoxicating.

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Is the Bethel Farm in Wallkill Co. still there?

by Etude in

i've been out of this loop (or any other) for a while.

can someone tell me if the bethel farm facilities are still there in wallkill county, ny?

i was there for about a year.

mann377

Were you there 73-76? The only work I did for the farm operation was farm 2. I worked with the cattle on weekends. I knew how to ride a horse and tend to the feed lot. Loved working with "Slippers" the cattle dog. Through a series of whistles she would cut the herd and bring a cow back. Yes I knew that they would put the Gilead students on the farm waiting for them to be shipped to there assignments. Funny thing about that is one night I was working late working on a friends car in the shop and went back to the #3 residence building to take a shower and go to bed. While taking a shower about 4 Gilead sisters came in the bath room. I could hear them laughing and were trying on cloths etc. I had the shower curtain closed and thought "am I in the wrong bath room or are they?". When they left (45 minutes later) I got out of the shower and looked to the left and saw the urinals. So I knew I was in the right place but the sisters must have seen the urinals as I did since they are the first thing you see when coming in. Wonder what the Bethel office would say if I had jumped out of the shower while the sisters were there?

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Is the Bethel Farm in Wallkill Co. still there?

by Etude in

i've been out of this loop (or any other) for a while.

can someone tell me if the bethel farm facilities are still there in wallkill county, ny?

i was there for about a year.

mann377

I knew Dan Myers. I was at the farm from 73'-76'. I was a press operator and was a on my own as a factory worker. Dan was a "pot licker" in every since of the word. He was in bulk rapping when I knew of him. The one thing that escapes the overseers at Bethel is that everyone there is a VOLUNTEER! You done treat volunteers like they owe you something.

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Have You Been “Gaslit”?

by minimus in

jw
friends

gaslighting is a form of sustained manipulation that causes the victim to question or doubt their sanity, judgment and memories.

it’s a form of emotional abuse.

i think jehovah’s witnesses have been gaslit.

mann377

Just a note on Knorr. He was a businessman foremost. He did not have that deep of Bible knowledge. His talks were written by someone else. His ego was big, very big. You have to understand his Penn Dutch background when talking to him. He would stop by my press at Watchtower Farm ever Wednesday morning when he came up. I knew his family (inlaws, etc.) learned a lot about him. Also learned a lot about him and Franz from Bud Sullivan (retired head of service depart) when I sat next to him at the table (at the farm)

When speaking of gaslighting and the WTBS you need need to realize all cults use this MO on the people.

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Could you end up in a cult?

by mann377 in

saw this article today and pleased to see the information presented.

it does not mention the borg which is good in that it would not turn off any dubs that might come across it.

the info is not new to us on the forum but any loyal dubs that read it might identify with the action of a cult and start to think (i would hope).

mann377

Saw this article today and pleased to see the information presented. It does not mention the borg which is good in that it would not turn off any dubs that might come across it. The info is not new to us on the forum but any loyal dubs that read it might identify with the action of a cult and start to think (I would hope). https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9039095/Could-end-cult.html

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Is it possible for any Country to have “Reasonable” Gun Laws? What would they be?

by pistolpete in

so the new biden/harris gun policies are starting to appear.

it’s not clear yet, what they will be.. some suggestions; confiscate all guns.------buyback programs in each state.. there is much talk on social media that if this happens, the pandemic, + all the riots, + all the damaged property, + all the annual murders in america, - put together-will be like a sunday afternoon picnic, compared to all the deaths and property damage that will result because of “civil uprising” by millions of 2nd amendments advocates and just plain gun lovers.

americans love guns!.

mann377

The reason the police carry a gun.......not for your protection but for theirs!

Many politicians and actors, singers etc have people with guns for their protection. Why is their life more important than yours?

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Fruits of the spirit

by asp59 in

to all that been in betel service.

as 1440.000 are suppose to rule like kings they must also be an example of putting the fruits of the spirit in there daily life(charity, joy, peace, patience, benignity (kindness), goodness, longanimity (forbearance), mildness (gentleness), faith, modesty, continency (self-control), and chastity.).

have you meet a gb member or other from the 144.000 in betel when you were there that you could easy see that this person wakes up in the morning and is determined to apply fruits of the spirit in there life?

mann377

I knew Charlie Fekel back in '72-73. He was on the GB. I sat next to him at the table and went shopping with him on occasion. And I must say he was good man. Nothing like what I see today. He was truly humble.