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  How Did You Do It?

  by KerryKing in

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  2. beliefs

  have any of you here successfully woken up pimi family members or friends and got them out?.

  if so, how did you manage to do that, what was the information that made them jolt up out of their hypnotism?.

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  mann377

  Here's a stradegy that I have used that had suprising results. I put on my "ricky righteous" persona. By this I talk about how wonderful it is that the GB has such a nice place to live that is supported by our hard earned dollars. How the headquarters is like a country club/resort for their enjoyment. And we know that this is the way Jehovah meant it to be for them to live. Blah,blah........ You should see the look in their face as the wheels start to turn as they go back to their humble place and live on a tight budget. Several that I have done this with no longer attend. This is more effective due to the fact that you are not being confrontational as starting an argument. Remember these people have been programed with "switches" installed in their minds to turn off any negative comments.
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  BadAss Bethelites, did they really peak in the 1960's?

  by was a new boy in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in the 70's a bethel elder told me that every morning in the 60's the paint and scaffold crew, (which was located on the 5th floor of building 4) would go up to the roof and walk around the perimeter on top of the ledge, which i doubt was more than 12" wide.

  then they'd go render sacred service to jehovah..

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  mann377

  Sometimes they were refered to as "Potlickers". Pressmen were sometimes refered to as "animals" . Pressmen had a very different additude than the regular factory workers. Somte Bethelites would climb up to the towers at the Towers hotel and go around the columns on the tower at the roof.
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  Bombing of convention

  by mann377 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i heard that the convention in india had a bomb go off and kill two people.

  a former jdub..

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  mann377

  I heard that the convention in India had a bomb go off and kill two people. A former Jdub.
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  What is Self-deception?

  by Kosonen in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i googles about self-deception and found many articles about it.

  it is a thing reseachers in psychology have studied.. here is a quote from an article that describes it.

  and it is interesting because of so many ideas about how to understand the bible.

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  mann377

  There are no bigger fools than those who fool themselves.
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  JWs mental health

  by Hellothere in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  do they have any kind of mental health arrangements at bethel?

  i mean to help jws with mental problems.

  like a psychiatric.

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  mann377

  When I was at Bethel in the 70's there were several brothers that had some serious mental issues. They were given a ticket home. If the infirmary can't handle it ....you're gone!
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  Were the bethelites disappointed when they moved out of Brooklyn?

  by GabeAthouse in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  anyone know of anyone who was serving at the time of the move?

  i know a few former jw's who were at brooklyn who have told me that the actual bethel experience was kind of a drag but it was kinda cool to experience living in nyc for a couple of years.

  i visited a relative who was serving, years ago and went into the apartment he shared.

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  mann377

  Can't speak for anyone else but when I was transferred from Brooklyn to the farm back in '73 I was a bit taken back. Thinking I would be in the middle of no where. After about four months I bought a car (went home for a vacation and bought it). It was great to have the freedom to go all over the place. Many times I would just go after work and drive in the mountains (the Gunks) and watch the sunset. Every time I walked past my car I knew that was my transportation out at any time. Having that freedom was intoxicating.
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  Is the Bethel Farm in Wallkill Co. still there?

  by Etude in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i've been out of this loop (or any other) for a while.

  can someone tell me if the bethel farm facilities are still there in wallkill county, ny?

  i was there for about a year.

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  mann377

  Were you there 73-76? The only work I did for the farm operation was farm 2. I worked with the cattle on weekends. I knew how to ride a horse and tend to the feed lot. Loved working with "Slippers" the cattle dog. Through a series of whistles she would cut the herd and bring a cow back. Yes I knew that they would put the Gilead students on the farm waiting for them to be shipped to there assignments. Funny thing about that is one night I was working late working on a friends car in the shop and went back to the #3 residence building to take a shower and go to bed. While taking a shower about 4 Gilead sisters came in the bath room. I could hear them laughing and were trying on cloths etc. I had the shower curtain closed and thought "am I in the wrong bath room or are they?". When they left (45 minutes later) I got out of the shower and looked to the left and saw the urinals. So I knew I was in the right place but the sisters must have seen the urinals as I did since they are the first thing you see when coming in. Wonder what the Bethel office would say if I had jumped out of the shower while the sisters were there?
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  Is the Bethel Farm in Wallkill Co. still there?

  by Etude in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i've been out of this loop (or any other) for a while.

  can someone tell me if the bethel farm facilities are still there in wallkill county, ny?

  i was there for about a year.

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  mann377

  I knew Dan Myers. I was at the farm from 73'-76'. I was a press operator and was a on my own as a factory worker. Dan was a "pot licker" in every since of the word. He was in bulk rapping when I knew of him. The one thing that escapes the overseers at Bethel is that everyone there is a VOLUNTEER! You done treat volunteers like they owe you something.
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  Have You Been “Gaslit”?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  gaslighting is a form of sustained manipulation that causes the victim to question or doubt their sanity, judgment and memories.

  it’s a form of emotional abuse.

  i think jehovah’s witnesses have been gaslit.

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  Just a note on Knorr. He was a businessman foremost. He did not have that deep of Bible knowledge. His talks were written by someone else. His ego was big, very big. You have to understand his Penn Dutch background when talking to him. He would stop by my press at Watchtower Farm ever Wednesday morning when he came up. I knew his family (inlaws, etc.) learned a lot about him. Also learned a lot about him and Franz from Bud Sullivan (retired head of service depart) when I sat next to him at the table (at the farm)

  When speaking of gaslighting and the WTBS you need need to realize all cults use this MO on the people.
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  Could you end up in a cult?

  by mann377 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  saw this article today and pleased to see the information presented.

  it does not mention the borg which is good in that it would not turn off any dubs that might come across it.

  the info is not new to us on the forum but any loyal dubs that read it might identify with the action of a cult and start to think (i would hope).

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  Saw this article today and pleased to see the information presented. It does not mention the borg which is good in that it would not turn off any dubs that might come across it. The info is not new to us on the forum but any loyal dubs that read it might identify with the action of a cult and start to think (I would hope). https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9039095/Could-end-cult.html