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  Gandhi

  by nobodylovesme in

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  gandhi

  gandhi walked barefoot everywhere, to the point that his feet became quite thick and hard.

  he also was quite a spiritual person.

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  MungoBaobab

  Man was that ever corny- and funny! I snickered.
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  Cute but very disturbing... Send your kid a letter from Santa...

  by Elsewhere in

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  i love to get into the whole christmas spirit thing, but i never take it to the point of lying to or deceiving children about it.

  i try to teach kids that it is the spirit of christmas that matters... then i saw this thing.

  parents are actively trying to deceive their kids by offering them "proof" that santa is real.

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  MungoBaobab

  Hillbilly, I wasn't suggesting hat Santa and the GB are the same. Although I do think that Santa and God are the same!

  -Oh no he didn't just compare God to Santa!

  Some two-bit outfit that sends pretend letters supposedly from a supernatural being, now THAT'S worthy of the GB.
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  Cute but very disturbing... Send your kid a letter from Santa...

  by Elsewhere in

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  i love to get into the whole christmas spirit thing, but i never take it to the point of lying to or deceiving children about it.

  i try to teach kids that it is the spirit of christmas that matters... then i saw this thing.

  parents are actively trying to deceive their kids by offering them "proof" that santa is real.

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  MungoBaobab

  What about those poor elves? Can you say SWEATSHOP?

  Compare:

  
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  Of course you're happier.

  by kwintestal in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i got to thinking about the wt study this week (i read blondie's version of it) and the statement that jehovah's witnesses are the happiest people on earth.. there are 2 groups of people in the jw faith and in any other for that matter, those who were born and raised who know no other religion, and those who were converted.. it's somewhat understood, by most, that jw's target those who are emotionally and spiritually vulnerable to convert, therefore they are unhappy.. those who were raised as jw's are told and given repeated examples of how everyone else is unhappy.

  when they hear these examples where unhappy people add the jw faith into the mix and suddenly they are transformed into the happiest people on earth, they become convinced that everyone not a jw is like that.. the constant reminders that jw's are the happiest people on earth, for the convert trigger the memory of their poor emotional or spiritual state prior to entering the jw faith, and for the lifetime jw trigger the memory of the previously poor state of the convert.. additional thoughts anyone?.

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  MungoBaobab

  It is a terrible cognitive dissonance to be raised in this religion and told that everyone else is unhappy while in fact YOU become the unhappiest person, and suffer further when you need to break free of this imprisonment.

  True that, euripides. I wish every JW at every door would ask every prospective convert:

  -Are you married? Because becoming a JW can shatter your family life. Even if it doesn't, if your spouse does not also join you'll be the odd man/woman out when it comes time for couples to socialize. Don't count on being invited out.

  -Are you single? As if it's not hard enough to find decent companionship, you will have about 6 prospective mates you will have regular contact with. Even if you do find someone, you will not be allowed to spend any time alone with your fiancee without a chaperone until your wedding night. I hope romance isn't a priority.

  -Do you have a hobby that brings you joy? Wouldn't your time be better spent underlining answers in Watchtower literature?

  -Do you interact with people who aren't JWs? Don't be too friendly, they're bad association soon to be killed by God. Same goes for your family, btw. Same goes for you if you don't get baptized.

  -Ever feel like hopping a jet to somewhere far away and losing yourself? Don't forget a pocket-sized library of Watchtower literature to preach to people along the way.

  Man, the WTS sure knows how to crush the human spirit.
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  What would it take to turn the military from a cult to a religion?

  by XQsThaiPoes in

  1. watchtower
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  it is a part 2 to my "what makes a cult a 'cult'?

  " thread.

  so what would it take to trun the marines for example from a military cult to a mainstream religion.

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  MungoBaobab

  The Witness Home Bible Study program serves as the boot camp "tearing down process." Ever notice that this is when things in the house become demonized? After a thorough search of the house, some non-JW approved object or another is discovered, destroyed, then the prospective Bible student becomes a faithful pre-Witness pending baptism. My theory is the guilt of a non-JW life overwhelms the Bible student to the point where they project their inner "demons" outward until they find a mascot in the form of an old cross, Smurf doll, whatever the case may be. Getting rid of the "demonized" object serves as a ritual casting off of the old personality (did that f'ing phrase just come out of my mouth?!). Of course, most JWs aren't that crazy. Most.
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  Cute but very disturbing... Send your kid a letter from Santa...

  by Elsewhere in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i love to get into the whole christmas spirit thing, but i never take it to the point of lying to or deceiving children about it.

  i try to teach kids that it is the spirit of christmas that matters... then i saw this thing.

  parents are actively trying to deceive their kids by offering them "proof" that santa is real.

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  MungoBaobab

  To see the look on a kid's face when they get that letter is priceless !

  Perhaps something akin to seeing the look on a JW's face when he recieves a publication from the GB and thinks it comes from the desk of the Almighty Himself? After all, it's so magical to have a healthy fantasy life...
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  To what extent do the elders keep information on us?

  by JH in

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  i remember a few years ago, i changed congregation, so the elders told me that they had to send my folder to the other congregation.

  when i was baptized, i don't remeber them telling me they kept information on me, and that they would pass it around to other congregations if ever i moved.. i wonder what kind of information is kept in these folders.

  probably everyone in the congregation has his hours listed and the privileges they had written in it, but maybe there is alot more written that we don't even know about.

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  MungoBaobab

  Oh, I would kill to see what my intrroductory letter said when I last changed congragations.

  "Brother Baobab has demonstrated an independent spirit opposed to Jehovah God by refusing to shave his sideburns another quarter inch to mid-ear length as we insisted. Suely he will be destroyed at Armageddon for such insolence, and should be treated as a walking corpse."

  This would explain my warm reception and subsequent dismissal. Musta been marked.
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  WILL THE WT APOLOGIZE- LIKE THE CATHOLIC DID???

  by JT in

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  last evening we went out with 2 other former jw couples a couple of guys and their wives i knew from the old days of bethel.

  we were discussing the public apology that the catholic church just authorized to be made to the child abuse victims for their cases being mishandled as well as that $100 million dollar check they just cut.. .

  and i will ask you all the same question .

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  MungoBaobab

  To apologize would require humility, and humility is an elusive concept when you feel you speak for God.
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  Gossip Gossip...

  by Englishman in

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  it's just become general knowledge in a wsm congregation that the wife of the ex po was removed from the pioneer list for selling clothes.

  ..selling clothes along with the watchtower & awake whilst out in the ministry work!

  apparently, she'd been doing this for about 30 years.

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  MungoBaobab

  I know that in the Phillipines the group that was beheaded a year or so ago sold Avon during their ministry. Some sort of cover story in countries under ban? But not this freak, of course!
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  The Human Face

  by Greenpalmtreestillmine in

  1. watchtower
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  the human face is unique.

  it is the window to the mind.

  dogs wag their tales when they're happy and down their ears when they're afraid or puzzled but people, by their facial expressions, are able to transmit much more subtle and/or complex messages and are capable of doing so at will if we so desire.. .

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  MungoBaobab

  GreenPalm: Facial expressions are not uniquely human. For example, you can determine a cat's mood by the posture of the ears and whickers. Haven't you seen a dog snarl when it feels angry or frightened? Is it all that different than the snarl on a human's face during similar emotional states? Chimpanzees even smile when they're happy.

  Really I can't think of any emotions that are uniquely human, and a trained eye would always be able to read an animal's body language.