i What freedom do you have that I don't?
I would like to know too.
mrsjones5
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After the cult how many reject faith in anything?
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After the cult how many reject faith in anything?
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mrsjones5
<------ Apatheist. Don't really care.
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Are You Raising An Introvert?
by darth frosty inits not easy being an introvert in an extrovert worldespecially when youre a kid.
it is even more difficult if none of the adults in the kids life recognize that the child is an introvert.
this doesnt happen only when the childs parents are extroverts, but also with introverted parents who have never understood their own introverted nature.. .
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mrsjones5
Bump
bumping this because I know I might be meeting new folks in Tahoe and I want y'all to know if I'm not talking that much it's because:
1. I may not know what to say and feel I really don't have anything to contribute to the conversation at the moment
2. I've gone into observation mode
3. I'm a little overwhelmed and being quiet to center myself
4. My mind is in overdrive.
I like meeting new people but it takes a while for me to warm up. To some it seems I'm being aloof but that's not the case. I just need a little time to get my bearings.
I'm an introvert.
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How do you react when you happen upon the name jehovah
by jean-luc picard inwhenever i here that name, maybe in conversation with someone who doesnt know my past, i feel anger welling up instantly inside me.. if there were a jw in sight, i think i could give him a jolly good shaking.. just hearing that name does things to me.. jesus = love.
jehovah = hate, selfishness, divisiveness, and domineering manipulation.. so much for jdubs "honoring " his name.
he's sure got a bad reputation based on how they live their lives..
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mrsjones5
I try not to react.
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Do you go to Kroger/Publix/Wal Mart?
by Iamallcool ini usually shop for most things at wal mart but i have learned some things at publix and kroger are cheaper than wal mart.
if you are conscious shopper, tell me what things do you buy at each store to save some money!
i am thinking about being a member of bj, if you know of any good deals at bj, let me know too.
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mrsjones5
I loved going to Aldi's back in Indiana. One christmas season they carried butter fudge. Omg it was good. Haven't found any since.
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Would you pay $600 for a demonic experience
by NewYork44M inat the very moment i signed oni saw the quote related to demonic experiences next to the $600 question about the stones.. given my desire to increase efficiency i thought it might be good to combine the topics.. i am very dissapointed that i have never had a demonic experience.
the fact that i don't believe in demons may have impacted my lack of experience.
however, i would never spend $600 to seen any group or person - even if they were naked.. so, how about you?.
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mrsjones5
It's not scary if one knows what it really is.
glossolalia
Glossolalia is fabricated, meaningless speech.
According to Dr. William T. Samarin, professor of anthropology and linguistics at the University of Toronto,
glossolalia consists of strings of meaningless syllables made up of sounds taken from those familiar to the speaker and put together more or less haphazardly .... Glossolalia is language-like because the speaker unconsciously wants it to be language-like. Yet in spite of superficial similarities, glossolalia fundamentally is not language (Nickell, 108).
When spoken by schizophrenics, glossolalia are recognized as gibberish. In charismatic Christian communities glossolalia is sacred and referred to as "speaking in tongues" or having "the gift of tongues." In Acts of the Apostles, tongues of fire are described as alighting on the Apostles, filling them with the Holy Spirit. Allegedly, this allowed the Apostles to speak in their own language but be understood by foreigners from several nations.
Glossolalics behave in various ways, depending on the social expectations of their community. Some go into convulsions or lose consciousness; others are less dramatic. Some seem to go into a trance; some claim to have amnesia of their speaking in tongues. All believe they are possessed by the Holy Spirit and the gibberish they utter is meaningful. However, only one with faith and the gift of interpretation is capable of figuring out the meaning of the meaningless utterances. Of course, this belief gives the interpreter unchecked leeway in "translating" the meaningless utterances. Nicholas Spanos notes: "Typically, the interpretation supports the central tenets of the religious community" (Spanos, 147).
Uttering gibberish that is interpreted as profound mystical insight by holy men is an ancient practice. In Greece, even the priest of Apollo, god of light, engaged in prophetic babbling. The ancient Israelites did it. So did the Jansenists, the Quakers, the Methodists, and the Shakers.
There is evidence that while speaking in tongues people experience a sharp decrease in frontal lobe function, the area of the brain that enables reason and self-control. There is also increased activity in the parietal region of the brain, which takes sensory information and tries to create a sense of self relating to the world. Psychiatrist Andrew Newberg, Director of the Center for Spirituality and the Mind at the University of Pennsylvania, studied five African-American Pentecostal women who frequently speak in tongues. As a control activity, Newberg had the women sing gospel tunes while moving their arms and swaying. *
Newberg gave the Pentecostals an intravenous injection of a radioactive tracer that allowed him to measure blood flow and "see" which brain areas were most active during the behaviors. Newberg and his associates published their findings in the November 2006 issue of Psychiatry Research: Neuroimaging. During glossolalia, the part of the brain than normally makes a person feel in control was essentially shut down. The findings make sense, says Newberg, because speaking in tongues involves giving up control and feeling a "very intense experience of how the self relates to [a] god." *
Newberg noted that the glossolalia responses were the opposite of those of people in a meditative state. When people meditate their frontal lobe activity increases, while their parietal activity decreases. In meditation, one loses the sense of self while controlling one's focus and concentration.
The Pentecostal movement seems to have originated in the 19th century,* although the Biblical basis for the practice is traced to the Acts of the Apostles. The practice of Pentecostals differs, however, from what is described in Acts. Pentecostals utter gibberish and claim that they are speaking in a language understood by some god but not by other Pentecostals, but in Acts we are told that those present not only spoke "with other tongues" but "every man heard them speak in his own language."
And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven. Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language. And they were all amazed and marveled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galileans? And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born? Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia, Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes, Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of [some] god. [Acts II; 1-11]
This story is supposed to support the notion that such an event really did occur and it was prophesied by Joel that this kind of thing would happen in the last days. There is nothing in Joel, however, that prophesied that, when the last days didn't come as predicted, plan B would be to wait 1900 years and have a revival and claim that when you speak gibberish it is a sign that some god loves you.
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My Final Goodbye
by Lady Lee ini want to start by saying i will not participate in discussion here about my resignation as a moderator at jwn.. simon please consider this as my resignation from that position.. i have been posting on this board for almost 12 years.
i know some of you a lot, others a little and some not very well at all.
i have remained here for those of you who have needed support as you make the transition out of the wts, who needed someone to listen to your experiences of abuse at the hands of jehovah's witnesses, and to both laugh and cry with you as you progress out of the watchtower society.. we know that we have all experienced the cruelty of abuse of one kind or another.
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mrsjones5
One point troubles me and that was qouting Ray Franz about silence, we are all guilty of not joining every thread and every topic that emerges because we are not the Everlasting Bunny, our emotional resources are limited and some of the threads will drain us faster than others, that's one point I think Lady Lee miscontrued a large majority of silence to represent a possible position of "Yeah or Nay" to a issue the group might not even have considered or pondered.
No one should feel guilty about not posting on every thread that is created on this board. Some of the emotional gut wrenching threads are hard enough to read and get my mind around nevermind trying to post something coherent on said threads. Best I can do sometimes is read the thread then I'm out.
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Would you pay $600 for a demonic experience
by NewYork44M inat the very moment i signed oni saw the quote related to demonic experiences next to the $600 question about the stones.. given my desire to increase efficiency i thought it might be good to combine the topics.. i am very dissapointed that i have never had a demonic experience.
the fact that i don't believe in demons may have impacted my lack of experience.
however, i would never spend $600 to seen any group or person - even if they were naked.. so, how about you?.
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mrsjones5
mrs jones: you think that ppl can speak in toungues on there own?
I think folks speak in tongues when there is someone to witness it. I think folks do it because they are told speaking in tongues is one if the ways the holy spirit is manifest. What would be the point of speaking in tongues all by one's lonesome?
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Do you go to Kroger/Publix/Wal Mart?
by Iamallcool ini usually shop for most things at wal mart but i have learned some things at publix and kroger are cheaper than wal mart.
if you are conscious shopper, tell me what things do you buy at each store to save some money!
i am thinking about being a member of bj, if you know of any good deals at bj, let me know too.
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mrsjones5
I like Winco too. I live near a couple and go to one of them at least twice a week. But I miss Krogers. They're not in California. Love the double and triple coupon program Krogers had. Food is a bit cheaper in Indiana thn in California but at least I have places like Winco and Grocery Outlet to help keep my food budget sane.
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Are you a dabbler in Witchcraft?
by StopTheTears inafter leaving christianity it's common especially among the young to experiment with witchcraft.
some get drawn into it by getting involved with earth movements and back to nature groups.. .
witchcraft is an evil thing.
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mrsjones5
I like Satanus' name.