Yiffing!!!
Lmao!!
Josie
Yiffing!!!
Lmao!!
Josie
in the years leading up to 1975, there was an implicit (if not explicit) discouragement of having children given the proximity of armageddon.
for the most part, this seemed to have been ignored.
my jw grandma now has great-great grandchildren.
*** Watchtower 1988 March 1 pp.18-22 Childbearing Among God's People ***
Childbearing Among God's People
[…]Childbearing Today
15 How should Christians view marriage and childbearing today, in this "time of the end"? (Daniel 12:4) It is truer than ever that "the scene of this world is changing," or, as another translation puts it, "the present scheme of things is rapidly passing away."-1 Corinthians 7:31, Phillips.
16 Now, as never before, "the time left is reduced." Yes, only a limited time remains for Jehovah's people to finish the work he has given them to do, namely: "This good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come." (Matthew 24:14) That work must be accomplished before the end comes. It is, therefore, appropriate for Christians to ask themselves how getting married or, if married, having children will affect their share in that vital work.
An Ancient Example
17 Jesus likened the time of "the presence of the Son of man" to "the days of Noah." (Matthew 24:37) Noah and his three sons had a specific work to accomplish before the Flood. It involved building a gigantic ark and preaching. (Genesis 6:13-16; 2 Peter 2:5) When Jehovah gave instructions about the building of the ark, Noah's sons were apparently already married. (Genesis 6:18) We do not know exactly how long it took to build the ark, but it seems likely that it took several decades. Interestingly, during all this pre-Flood period, Noah's sons and their wives had no children. The apostle Peter specifically states that 'eight souls were carried safely through the water,' that is, four married couples but no children. (1 Peter 3:20) The sons' remaining childless was possibly for two reasons. First, in view of the approaching destruction by a deluge of waters, they had a divinely appointed job to do that required their undivided attention. Second, they doubtless felt disinclined to bring children into a world where "the badness of man was abundant in the earth and every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only bad all the time," a world "full of violence."-Genesis 6:5, 13.
18 This is not to say that the course of action taken by Noah's sons and their wives before the Deluge was meant to set the rule for married couples living today. Nevertheless, since Jesus compared Noah's day to the period in which we are now living, their example can provide food for thought.
"Critical Times"
19 Like Noah and his family, we are also living in "a world of ungodly people." (2 Peter 2:5) Like them, we are in "the last days" of a wicked system of things that is about to be destroyed. The apostle Paul prophesied that "the last days" of Satan's system would bring "critical times hard to deal with." Showing that raising children would be one of the things hard to deal with, he added that children would be "disobedient to parents." He stated that people in general, not excluding children and adolescents, would be "unthankful, disloyal, having no natural affection." (2 Timothy 3:1-3) While Paul was here prophesying of conditions among worldly people, obviously such prevalent attitudes would make the rearing of children increasingly difficult for Christians, as many have experienced.
20 All the foregoing shows that it is necessary to have a balanced view of childbearing. While it can bring many joys, it can also bring many heartaches. It has advantages and disadvantages. Some of these will be considered in the following article.
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Quick flight from Jerusalem would be more difficult for those with young children
in the years leading up to 1975, there was an implicit (if not explicit) discouragement of having children given the proximity of armageddon.
for the most part, this seemed to have been ignored.
my jw grandma now has great-great grandchildren.
Oops?
how many have recieved calls by the elders that were under the guise of "shepherding", but somehow inappropriate, i.e, you were a woman alone with only one elder showing up, or you felt physically intimidated by both.
or say they show up at like, 10:30 at night for a shepherding call.
and you say "hey, i appreciate the visit but please call first!
Or say they show up at like, 10:30 at night for a shepherding call. And you say "Hey, I appreciate the visit but please call first! I have to work in the AM!" And they say "Well, the POLICE would'nt call first!!!! And you say "I thought you were just stopping by to say hi, but I need to go to bed, and start to shut the door and they stick their foot in the door and say "No, I think we're gonna come in!" Even when your an adult, and not baptized?
Wow, did this really happen? If it happened to me, that foot would have gotten broken.
Josie
so my brother and i have been having talks about what will happen when our dad passes away eventually.
most of his brothers and sisters have died in their 50's or early 60's.
i flat out refuse to attend any part of the service that would be done at the kingdom hall.
The last time I went to a hall was to attend my grandfather's funneral. I didnt pay much attention to the service because my youngest was being a bit noisy and I had to walk him around the back of the hall. We even went outside for a bit. I think the only time I will ever step foot inside of a hall again is when one of my parents dies.
Josie
what do you think of my new avatar?
be honest.
i got the idea from that new website http://www.werenotafraid.com/.. truthseeker.
I like it
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.. and he keel'ed over.. would you eat him?
gbl
Nah, I dont like tough rubbery meat
while reading a book about the intelligence community, one quote stood out like a gem.. a highly experienced experimenter and mind control authority said:.
"today it is a well-understood tactic of mind manipulation that if an unknown and .
unresolvable guilt can be established among a group of people, that group can be.
Totally!!
i have been thinking about this because of another post where the question asks have any of us ever been blackmailed to stay in the watchtower organization.. no, i won't say i was blackmailed; however, after i wrote my note of disassociation, the congregation overseer wanted to visit me in my home with two other elders.
i repeatedly said no, that i would not allow them to chastise me in my own home.
therefore, all of my conversations were over the phone with the overseer.
Defd? Defd? Where are you?(crickets chirping)
Typical ... JWs get all defensive when the facts are presented ... then quietly skulk away.
defd did a hit and run...
I am a man by the way. I have to go now but i will be back on 2 marrow ok? thanks for the chat
i've heard so many people (jw and non) tell me that i need to maintain my spirutuality because it's healthy.
it seems i don't have any since i no longer believe in god or the bible.
so, what the hell do i need spirituality for?