So how do you feel about saving other people's lives and keeping the elderly and sickly from dying?
~Binadub
i was thinking about how to explain to a family member how i have no fear or issue with not living in a paradise earth etc.
they dont believe i left the jws for good reason, they think like every jw that i must be bitter about the religion or something.. .
i am an atheist and for many reasons i dont fear death, but i was trying to think of a way to explain it from a jw perspective when it hit me...... it doesnt matter.. option a: do t believe in god and believe that i will die and there will be eternal nothingness.
So how do you feel about saving other people's lives and keeping the elderly and sickly from dying?
~Binadub
the jws, catholics, mormons, and a handful of others say they are the "true church" or what jesus originally intended.
i know jws call themselves the "true christians".
by what authority - outside of the bible, since 41,000 denominations use the bible to back up their individual beliefs - can jws make this claim?
That's why they cling to the 1914 parousia doctrine for life, in abject denial of the facts that expose their flawed historical chronology.
It is their claim to being uniquely aware of Christ's return and therefore being appointed as His "faithful and discreet slave" upon his return.
If they ever relinquish that 1914 doctrine, they relinquish their claim to having been divinely appoint to preach "the good news" of Christ's return and his soon-to-be kindgom established.
The clock is ticking . . . the sands of the hourglass are falling . . .
~Binadub
the possibilities truly are endless with photoshop!!.
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cedars.
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Sour grapes! Guess he wasn't satisfied with the $10,000 settlement.
~Binadub
reading the recent thread about the young lady who just ended her life got me thinking that maybe there could be a thread that is easily accessible to anyone who may need help due to homelessness from losing their families and friends to shunning.
too often i hear stories about people who have lost everything, and have no where to go, and at the same time having no type of support system.
unfortunately there are some who are so lost that they feel that there are no options besides taking their own life.. i think that a website that matches people in need to others who can help in some way would be a great idea.
What a great and compassionate concept, ohiocowboy.
There is a Website dedicated to the blood issue (AJWRB), and one dedicated to child molestation/abuse (Silent Lambs).
I would like to see a site dedicated to the shunning issue; long overdue. It is wholly unscriptural and has been my dominent issue against the Watchtower religion.
~Binadub
i would appreciate any active fellow witness giving their explanation about the following contradiction, or better still, tell me what it is that i'm missing - because the following assertion, by definition, demands that christ has already arrived.
but aren't we always being reminded to 'keep on the watch' and to 'stay awake' for our master's arrival?.
i must have missed it, because according to the following, he's already settled accounts!.
The Watchtower does an excellent job of impressing on adherents' minds that Matt.24:45 is a prophecy rather than a parable--which they of course are the supposed fulfillment.
"Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom the master has put in charge of the servants in his household to give them their food at the proper time?
It is no more a prophecy that the parable is less than a chapter later in Matt.25:23:
"His master replied, 'Well done, good and faithful servant! You have been faithful with a few things; I will put you in charge of many things. Come and share your master's happiness!'
Same kind of parable.
~Binadub
yesterday was my oldest son's 21st birthday.
as many of you know, i've been disfellowshipped for over 3 years now.
in the spring of this year i did write to the local boe and request my disfellowshipping be rescinded.
00DAD:
While I agree that your situation with your son is heart-wrenching, I hope you won't think it insensitive that I find myself agreeing with King Solomon. I thought his comments were well-intended and insightful of the JW mindset.
When you "reach out" to a JW who is shunning you, you are in effect obligating them to reject you. In their mind it is an opportunitiy to demonstrate their faith and obedience to Jehovah. If he tells others in the congregation about your attempts to connect, you can bet he gets plenty of support, encouragement and praise, which may also help reinforce his resolve. At his age, he may have a JW sweetheart to complicate matters. Don't give him too much ammunition to fortify his misplaced faith. When his defenses are not bucking up, he may be more inclined to see the obvious. The advice to take it slow by another poster was probably good.
Have you read Steve Hassan's book "Freedom of Mind: Helping Loved Ones Leave Controlling People, Cults and Beliefs"?
I have not read it, but I've heard good things about it. If it is anything like his "Combatting Cult Mind Control," it is awesome (imo) for reaching JWs because it was about Moonies and did not implicate Jehovah's Witnesses while it described them unmistakeably.
Anyway, fwiw,
~Binadub
some of you will have noticed that i've been paying a lot of attention to the governing body recently.
this is because most jehovah's witnesses venerate them collectively (even if they can't name them individually), and i feel this makes it important to understand this group of men properly and expose their mindset as individuals.
as the saying goes, i feel it's important to "know your enemy".. i realize it's very convenient to think of the governing body as being "evil" when we consider that they are ultimately responsible for all the damaging jw teachings and beliefs.
Can they be both? :-)
~Binadub
just wanted to write a tribute to my best friend whom i lost last week, it was one of the most painful experiences i have ever been through.
i have no children, my puppy was my child.
i got him from a golden retriever rescue organization when he was 2. he was recovering from a car accident, still a bit skiddish, but he chose me to take him home (the foster mom said that he never responded to anyone like he did me).. he was always happy to see me, greet me with a toy in his mouth, he never judged me, never cared whether i was "bad association", he was always there when i needed to smile and remembe that i was not alone in the world.
CHG:
I can relate! I cannot imagine being without pets for long. I have several--most rescued. I've had to have some put down; it's heart-wrenching.
Most of what I know/believe about love they have taught me. There seems to be a true wisdom in their innocent, non-judging, forgiving affection.
Sincere condolences,
~Binadub
i been really toggling with the idea of getting into cult psychology/exit counseling.
i don't even know where to begin.
i am currently researching psychology courses to get a degree but i can't seem to figure out what next.
Or contact Steve Hassan.
~Binadub
google his name and d'fing too.
does anyone know if it is true or not?.
TD:
If you read this, did you see my PM to you?
Thanks,
~Binadub