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  New 607 info?

  by startingover in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i just discovered something i have not seen anywhere before.

  i was looking at my old "all scripture inspired" book, and i say old because it was the first edition from 1963 and i had used it for years.

  according to the wt cd there were revisions in 1983 and 1990. i came across this little goodie under the book of daniel.

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  Gill

  Where's Stecka gone?

  Could be the faithful slave has been reading this site and has been round to kick his ass!?
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  JWs That Only Attend Sunday Meetings?

  by Doubtfully Yours in

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  ever heard of anyone that only attended meetings on sunday?.

  can i do that without much harrassment from my peer jws?.

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  What!!!! One meeting a week!!!!

  Did you never listen to the talk about 'our spirituality', ? It goes like this:

  First the brother holds up his bible with all his fingers and tells us how the strength of our spirituality can be 'judged' like this. If you are holding onto your bible with five fingers then it's the same as going to all five meetings and it's difficult to drop the bible (or your spirituality). Then he shows you what happens if you hold your bible with only four fingers, this being only four meetings. Yes, your spirituality is getting weaker. Now try holding it with three fingers. Not so strong now are we! How about with two fingers. Well you're only just managing to hold onto your bible now and that's if you've got Arnie's fingers. Now try holding your bible with just one finger! Get the picture?!!!

  And that is how you're going to be judged pretty quickly and then..... the harrassment begins.!!!!!!!!

  Time to get yourself a big snarling dog and a sign that says no hawkers, salespeople or JW's 'cos you're going to need one!!!
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  New 607 info?

  by startingover in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i just discovered something i have not seen anywhere before.

  i was looking at my old "all scripture inspired" book, and i say old because it was the first edition from 1963 and i had used it for years.

  according to the wt cd there were revisions in 1983 and 1990. i came across this little goodie under the book of daniel.

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  Gill

  Stecka,Stecka what can I say! You obviously misunderstood the drift of my line! I do not want to upset and distress my mother when she stands there spouting a line that she has been given to spout. You make me smile because you then give no reason except for faith and belief without evidence just as my mother does. I don't want to say to her 'shut up you brainwashed and demented fool' much as I would not like to say such a thing to you. But how do you back yourself up? Much as my mother does. Paraphrasing your words you hope that I will see the error of my ways before it's too late. Both of you threaten me with imminent destruction from your "loving" God Jehovah, or at least your version of him. I have gotten out of the error of my ways by escaping from the JW cult! All you can shout is repent, repent before it's too late! I was a JW for over 40 years so I KNOW. A saying of Jesus always caught my attention even as a child:

  "...by their works you will know them."

  And I know the ways of the JW's. You are not talking to an ignorant fool who does not know their subject but someone who does , but understands that people like my mother, who I do love, are totally brainwashed and cannot see out of what they are told to believe and why daren't they see out.? Well you said it mate, because they fear their destruction. Didn't you say you hoped I'd be back if I wasn't too stubborn. It's not stubborness, Stecka, it's having seen the light. Why don't you try or are you too scared? If you're right, surely there's nothing to fear, or is there?

  Ask yourself, 'what have I got to lose if I accurately search as much as possible to find out if what I believe is correct?"

  All the people on this site are not saying that being a christian is wrong but they are saying that blindly following a cult because you fear this is the time of the end , is wrong and dangerous for you and your mental health in the long run. Isn't it a bit superstitious like if I throw salt over my shoulder when I spill it nothing bad will happen to me. So if I got to all the meetings and out on the ministry I'll be all right in the long run just as stupid. So the dates don't matter then. And the unscriptural behaviour doesn't matter. And the nasty backbiting and constant petty criticisms don't matter. So what does matter to you? Just hanging on to the JW's coattails so that you get a chance of 'maybe surviving Armageddon!'

  Get a Life!
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  jw takes blood over plasma in b.c.

  by orbison11 in

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  2. medical

  this is an interesting read.

  recently, in my same small city, chiliwack, b.c.

  a court case was thrown out re a woman who died from complications during birth.

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  The blood issue is still one that I find fascinating as with my last baby I lost, very suddenly nearly five pints of blood,(almost 3 litres) and as a JW at the time did not have blood but survived, be it in a high dependency unit. I know I would still be unhappy about having blood even though I see the life an death benefit. But I was in that life and death situation and am still here to tell the tale. So does blood save lives? Maybe and maybe not. As for the poor man with the hepatitis he has my greatest sympathy! I understand completely!
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  Marking...?

  by Gill in

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  2. beliefs

  does anyone out there remember 'marking'.

  the principle being that if you saw something that you thought 'weak' or 'inappropriate' in your brother you didn't tell others but you 'marked them in your heart' and this person became someone that you personally kept contact with down to the minimum.

  talk about judging your brothers!

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  Does anyone out there remember 'marking'. The principle being that if you saw something that you thought 'weak' or 'inappropriate' in your brother you didn't tell others but you 'marked them in your heart' and this person became someone that you personally kept contact with down to the minimum. Talk about judging your brothers! I don't have the references in the literature to hand but someone must have. I"d never realised how important it was to keep the old lit. When my husband and myself discovered it was all crap he rushed every last piece of JW lit. down to the local tip! I managed to save two bibles and an old year book by the skin of my teeth. Shame really 'cos we had some of the really really old books from the early 1900's. Gold dust!

  Any one remember or got references.?

  Gill
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  New 607 info?

  by startingover in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i just discovered something i have not seen anywhere before.

  i was looking at my old "all scripture inspired" book, and i say old because it was the first edition from 1963 and i had used it for years.

  according to the wt cd there were revisions in 1983 and 1990. i came across this little goodie under the book of daniel.

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  Gill

  I love the 607 issue. Can't get enough of it! My mother will be back next week for a RV and I can't just sit there again repeating insanely 'but it's not true' ! Come on! Give me more ammo. She mesmerised me with the five beasts of Daniel and seven of Revelation last week and if she does that again...well I may just wrap the Inspired book around her neck. I have just one book on the subject and she will not take any internet information seriously as the internet is satan's tool to turn people away from Jehovah in the last days. And I can't say 'Mum, 607 is crap!' because I don't want to offend the old dear. So give me more hints and tips. I have to save her and let her free... at least I'd like to try. I'm rather impressed that she's willing to take on a 'wicket apostate' like myself. Sweet isn't it.

  Gill
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  Christmas music already!!

  by DevonMcBride in

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  2. friends

  as of last weekend, two radio stations in my area are devoting all of their air time to christmas music.

  from now until dec 25 i can hear christmas music 24 hours a day, 7 days a week and i have two stations to choose from.

  i like holiday music but it's already getting tiresome.. devon.

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  Why do you all remind me of a bunch of moaning Jehovah's Witnesses!!!!!

  Roll on Christmas! It rocks!!!!!

  Love you all really,

  Gill
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  website that will shatter everything about the Jehovahs Witnesses

  by watchmanofephraim in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://watchmanofephraim.tripod.com/

  go to this website, take a little time to read what is on it, and it will tell that eveything that the witnesse have been doing since the very day they started has had nothing to do with the god of israel.

  so dont feel anyway bad when any of you leave this lieing institute, they are responsible for more spiritual and literal deaths on this earth than any of the orginisations they slag off.

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  WATCHMANOEPHRAIM! Bloomin' 'ec mate! What you trying to do, blind me? I love bright colours but usually in nature. To read your site I tried my husband's reading glasses, my sunglasses, his sunglasses and finally all three together. My eyes still can't focus properly but I enjoyed what I could manage to read. Lovely jubly.

  Love Gill
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  Prepare for the Kingdom of God and His Christ

  by Brownboy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  you have been granted to view the inner workings of the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.

  by reading this letter you can see how satan has misled the entire world.

  have no fear and prepare for the kingdom of god and his christ

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  Gill

  Hi there!

  You all disappoint me! I came on to this site in the hope of finding out the exact date for the end of the world and what do I get, more fantasy and drivvel. Has no one out there got the right date? It looks like everyone wants to take the credit for saying' I told you this would happen!" and no one is going to say when. How can I trust a failed and false prophet like Brownboy since his reputation for failiure preceeds him.

  I always expected to live forever and see over the hill, all the tomorrows and tomorrows that have to come yet. So, I need to know an accurate date PEOPLE! I have to know when roughly to stop buying lottery tickets and drinking too many tequilla sunrises. I have to give myself space to get back into God's favour just before it happens so I can be like the prodigal son and have my cake and eat it.

  I think a few months notice would probably do. I could repent with a heartfelt condition and I could study and I could put my report slip in and I could answer nicely. I could perhaps do that for two to three months if push came to shove.

  So what do you think? Any ideas anyone..... ACCURATE GUESSES ONLY, PLEASE!!!!!
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  Comments You Will Not Hear at the 11-14-04 WT Study Highlights

  by blondie in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  comments you will not hear at the 11-14-04 wt study (october 1, 2004) highlights

  review comments

  tender affection and love.

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  Hi there!

  Wow! This is just too true. Something that I saw happen finally put the nail in the coffin for me with the JW's. I was born a witness I suppose, and never knew anything else but all that gossip, back biting and nasty behaviour , and thought that we had to forgive it because people were imperfect. Too bloody right.

  My Aunt was dying a terrible death from cancer and her daughter in law, a pioneer, highly respected and adored by the congregation and elder husband were to do most of the running about and helping of her. To be honest, her husband was very good but his wife was another matter all together. A lot of people were pitching in to help my Aunt have her last days at home but a few very unpleasant incidents had happened while the Aunt was on her own with her daughter in law. She had been at home from the hospital for a couple of weeks and was clearly at the end of her life and the daughter in law decides that it's all getting too much for her so we all offer to take the majority of the load off her. I'd been told that the daughter in law had been complaining bitterly to every sister who would listen about how selfish my Aunt was and if she was in that situation she would just go into a hospice and never burden anyone!

  Then one morning I arrived to take over the caring shift. I had the key and so went in and found my Aunt sitting in a cold room in her wheel chair, it was November , shaking a crying desperately. I couldn't make any sense of what she was saying. Then the daughter in law came rushing down the stairs and called me out of the room. Bear in mind that this woman is a pioneer and pillar of the JW community. She told me that I was not under any circumstances to give my Aunt any comfort because she was acting like a spoiled child wanting to die at home and putting her and the other relatives to so much inconvenience. Aunty was going into respite care as after two weeks of caring for her at home 'SHE" needed a break. I said nothing. I went in to see my Aunt, comforted her, put the fire on, and promised her that she was going to a hospice over all our dead bodies!!

  She died terribly a week later. But I was enlightened.

  The daughter in law's reasoning was that all she wanted to do was pioneer and serve her god Jehovah and not be wasting her time taking care of her mother in law. She was frustrated and needed to be out there saving people.

  Well she certainly didn't need to be out there saving people because she managed it at my Aunt's. She blooming well saved me. She saved me from any more JW policy, lies and non sense. I'm afraid real love is something that does exist among some JW's but it is a rare and a very, very beautiful thing when you find it. My cousin still moves me to tears how she tried to help her mother. But this was family love, another thing all together.

  I was a witness for 40 years and I'm afraid I know too much. Jehovah is not with them it is just terrible fear that drives them. So perhaps I should be sorry for the daughter in law. Perhaps she thought she was losing points for getting into the new system but she certainly opened my eyes...WIDE!

  Gill