the ?blood card?
and dpa have been combined into one document that folds into a business card size.
(unfolded it measures 6.75 x 8.5 inches / 17 x 21.5 cm.
Going by ones conscience is a stupid way to make decisions. The most intelligent and educated witnesses will understand that they can take many of the 'lifesaving' options now available. The majority, uneducated and unfortunately dumb-ass, because of borg anti-education instructions, will refuse anything and everything and think they're being clever following their uneducated consciences.
Sad!
a wave of destruction will .
destroy america's east coast
by ian gurney .
There's always something to look forward to in life, isn't there?!
I'm afraid I was just sitting here feeling guiltily smug that I don't live on the eastern seaboard of the USA or the west of the UK. Shame on me.
in only ten years the generation of 1914 will be well and truly gone so what then for those left still waiting for armageddon.
i'm thinking of friends and relatives here, and feeling sorry that they're wasting more time in the cult and that life's too short for that.
what's the chances of they're seeing sense in the near future?
Hi,
Thanks for replying.
Gary, if that is the case then and Witnesses stay 'in' for social acceptance and despite the teachings then if it wasn't for the practice of 'shunning' it would be possible in time to get even the most die hard witness to really "think" even if it took years of chipping away at their brainwashed condition.
In fact that makes me more hopeful.
I've been thinking about how, when we were witnesses, we were told that eventually something, usually something sad or disastorous, would happen to the people that we spoke to about the 'truth' and they would be more receptive to the 'bible troofs' we were preaching to them about. One day they would, if they had the right heart condition at the time' listen.
Is it possible it could happen in reverse also?
Careful MJ. It may be in the way that you put it though. You never can tell! Be sweet and smoochy.
Ourselves, we're having my sister round and fireworks.
Fireworks is my husband's new raison d'etre!
I have confiscated the rockets that he bought or 'The Family Slayers'!!!!! as I have named them and bought Roman Candles and fountains instead. As I have said to him, I'd like to keep all five kids and my eyes if possible well into the new year!
hi all- i haven't posted in quite a while but visit here a lot.
i am a non-witness married to a reinstated jw.
we were married when he was df, long story.
It's a problem of status as already mentioned.
I remember a missionary from Japan giving a slide show at our old cong about Japan, where he and his wife had been preaching for forty years.
He was talking about the fanaticism of the Japanese and why there had been such growth in Japan and so many had bee FT pioneers. He explained that position and status was everything to the Japanese and that's why everyone wanted to pioneer just to be on top of the heap.
This comment did not go down too well to judge by some of the brothers comments later. But he was right.
Everyone is supposed to be reaching out to be better than everyone else, not going backwards.
in only ten years the generation of 1914 will be well and truly gone so what then for those left still waiting for armageddon.
i'm thinking of friends and relatives here, and feeling sorry that they're wasting more time in the cult and that life's too short for that.
what's the chances of they're seeing sense in the near future?
I agree with you both but.... I would have to believe that all my relatives were TOTALLY brain dead to not have some doubt by now. There must some little sparks of rebellion going on in their heads and I, like I think a lot of others were very much like them, ONCE.
Yes they are indoctrinated and, though I know there is still controversy on the meaning of the word from earlier posts, I think they're brainwashed especially those brought up from infancy.
I think the CULT aspect of the belief system that operates in the JW society should be pushed and advertised more. Them members can keep denying it and turning away but some of it must stick eventually. If it wasn't for my relatives I don't think I'd want to push this furthur. I'd just think, tough. More fool them, just as I used to be.
But as happy as I am to be out of the cult I feel that some important people have been left behind and would like to land a punch, with the help of everyone else, on the WTBTS's nose.
I think this might take time and effort by a lot of people but some of it has got to hit home eventually.
in only ten years the generation of 1914 will be well and truly gone so what then for those left still waiting for armageddon.
i'm thinking of friends and relatives here, and feeling sorry that they're wasting more time in the cult and that life's too short for that.
what's the chances of they're seeing sense in the near future?
In only ten years the generation of 1914 will be well and truly gone so what then for those left still waiting for Armageddon. I'm thinking of friends and relatives here, and feeling sorry that they're wasting more time in the cult and that life's too short for that. What's the chances of they're seeing sense in the near future? Sadly, it doesn't seem very likely to happen to me.
What a waste of life.
My cousins will have not bothered haiving children, and it will be too late to change their minds as the biological clock will have signaled too late by then and my parents will have wasted a life time.
did it reinforce your dedication to the cause?
or did it burden and disillusion you?
I hated every single moment of it. As a child, of course I was forced to go out on the ministry or'the work' as we called it. I refused to talk to anyone at the doors. Then one very embarrassing day, my mother said to me when the householder came to the door and opened the door, 'It's your turn'. I stood there with no mags or bible or anything, with nothing to say and my mum sneering at me ' Go on! It's your turn!' I was about ten years old at the time!
I often think back to that and realise what an ass my mum was and how delusional she really is when it comes to the troof.
I also still wonder about the lady who came to the door and what a bunch of idiots she must think witlesses really are.
they now have their own web-site here: http://www.jah-jireh.org/index.html.
click onto the "news" section to see an excerpt from their new promotional video.
the bit about the 15 grandmothers had me close to tears, i can tell you!.
I agree Balsam but I'm pretty incompetent at financial investigations on line. Because of things that I've heard about the homes in the past I know that people believe that these homes are run entirely by the WTBTS and not as a private business. It was my experience of what I've heard said of the Jah-Jireh homes that made me think something fishy might be going on as far as deceiving the 'brothers' into making donations goes.
The profit for care homes is pretty high that they're making , since all care homes in the UK are struggling at the moment and many, many are closing down.
I"m hoping that someone can come back with tips on how to search the finances properly as I'm willing to do the searching but not sure at all where to start.
recently, a jw relative tried to discuss my "spiritual well-being" with me.
i have had conversations in the past with this same relative concerning 607 vs 586/587 and 1914. no matter what i said, it went in one ear and out the other.
it was like talking to a brick wall.
Love your story. I'm going to copy it and memorise it as I always get stumped when starting on this topic.
Good work. Something may have got through.
