Short by $9000!!
How is it possible for every single assembly to be 'short' of cash!
If dubbies don't pick up on this after years of 'sacred service' ( ) then they deserve to be taken advantage of by the Puketower!
Posts by Gill
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15Notes from the Sunday assembly: apostates, doubts, deficit
by truthseeker infor your viewing pleasure:.
i only have the notes for sunday.. .
2007-2008 circuit assembly .
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my friend had jws at the door , they said it was nonsence about blood issue
by looloo inshe rang me up and said she had just been lied to by the jws !
(gosh surely not ) when they knocked on her door she answered and said if you are jehovahs witnesses then i dont want to be one as you dont allow members to have blood transfusions , they said "that is all nonsence" utter nonsence" she said "so its not true about the girl that died after giving birth to twins then?
" one said "no its not , that was medical negligance , that was " she said anyway ive heard alot of stories about jws (she knows that my child was abused by an ex min servant , that had abused kids in the cong years earlier but did not get reported to the police ) they said "yes and i bet you have heard them from people that are not witnesses " typical reply because its bound to be all lies if its come from someone not a witness !!!!!
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Gill
Jehovah's Witnesses are trained to masters of smoke and mirror deceptions and lies and damned lies!
Why do criminals feel the need to dress up in their Sunday best when they are in court? It's easier to fool people and confuse them as they stand their saying 'No! It's Not True!'
My parents are fanatical witnesses and do you know what.....I've never heard non JWs lie how they do and think nothing of it! You can see they actually believe the lies they are saying even when they know they are lying! How's that for screwed up minds?
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There is no 'right' for British women to have pain relief when in labour!
by Gill inmy neighbours daughter recently gave birth in a large uk teaching hospital to her second child.. the baby was a very large 10 lb boy and the labour went horrendously, during which grandma and the mother's partner had to argue with medical staff for help and pain relief.. they were told that women in labour have no 'right' to pain relief in the united kingdom and despite the fact that this young woman was screaming in total despair for nearly fifteen hours before four doctors turned up to help her and give her an epidural anaesthetic., she had no help but gas and air which didn't help her at all.
the hospital was crowded with young polish women also giving birth and the staff midwives told the girl's mother that they had to concentrate on these polish young women as they did not speak english and many of their babies were at risk because they were so small.. this young woman did not even have a private room to herself but was in a crowded ward!.
the young neighbour's baby twice went into distress with his heart rate dropping desperately low.
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Gill
Excellent, Sirona!! Glad to hear it!
There is nothing like an experienced person devoted to your care to help you through a labour and really it is something that used to be available in the NHS. You had your named midwife and she STAYED with you throughout labour! These days they tend to turn up to catch the baby and run off to the next room for the next catch! It's only the good and not overstretched hospitals that offer that kind of support now.
Glad to hear you will have that kind of support!
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There is no 'right' for British women to have pain relief when in labour!
by Gill inmy neighbours daughter recently gave birth in a large uk teaching hospital to her second child.. the baby was a very large 10 lb boy and the labour went horrendously, during which grandma and the mother's partner had to argue with medical staff for help and pain relief.. they were told that women in labour have no 'right' to pain relief in the united kingdom and despite the fact that this young woman was screaming in total despair for nearly fifteen hours before four doctors turned up to help her and give her an epidural anaesthetic., she had no help but gas and air which didn't help her at all.
the hospital was crowded with young polish women also giving birth and the staff midwives told the girl's mother that they had to concentrate on these polish young women as they did not speak english and many of their babies were at risk because they were so small.. this young woman did not even have a private room to herself but was in a crowded ward!.
the young neighbour's baby twice went into distress with his heart rate dropping desperately low.
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Gill
There is absolutely nothing wrong with a baby being born with no abnormalities because he was not starved of oxygen at birth.
There is nothing wrong with having an assisted labour, or a caesarean section! It is GOOD to not be starved of oxygen because your mother's labour is going wrong, or your cord is wrapped around your neck, or your head is stuck in the wrong position for birth and you're being slowly suffocated!
My last birth was an emergency caesarean section. The Health visitor / Midwife said she was sorry I didn't have the satisfaction of giving birth 'naturally'. I told her that I did not feel 'cheated' as she suggested. In fact, if I had given birth naturally I would have been dead in minutes of the birth and the baby, who was lying transversely and compressing her cord would also have been dead or potentially brain damaged.
Cesarean sections, help from doctors, deliverys that are speeded up with oxytocin are NOT bad but good. The babies are closely monitored, a doctor is closely involved and the chances of coming out of the experience with a healthy child are much higher. I never went into labour wanting someone to mop my brow and make a fuss of my 'wonderful natural pain'! I went in to have a healthy child as soon as possible and nothing else would do!
I also discussed with the same Health Visitor how the amount of brain damaged children had gone down as cesarean sections had risen!
Labour is not pretty! Even the best can be upsetting and traumatic and painful.....unless they are one of these high speed deliverys which I always craved but never had!
Therefore, what I'm saying is that the purpose of pregnancy and labour is to produce and happy and healthy baby! For a few moments attention too many children are born brain damaged with ruined lives for themselves and their familys!
Always, absolutely always fight for the best medical attention possible during labour.....that's the only advice I can give to anyone about to go into hospital to have a baby! Don't be afraid to fight for your partner and your baby. It takes only a few minutes of oxygen starvation to ruin a child's potential!
A doctor is more of a friend in labour than a midwife....a sad fact I discovered for myself! I nearly lost my second twin because an arrogant midwife thought she was doing me a favour by keeping five doctors standing outside the delivery room for hours and not until they raced in and were faced with an absolute emergency did they act like absolute heroes and save my baby and myself! Midwives should stick to what they know.....simple deliveries and leave the tough stuff to doctors.
Don't waste time being afraid, research, demand attention and don't take anything less!
I don't care if that sounds 'scare mongering' take it from someone who's been there, and got the T shirt to prove it!
For all you who are expecting.....find out all you can, don't fear anyone and question everything!
More than likely, the more assertive you are the more assistance you will get ...... and always threaten to sue the arse off anyone who is not helping if you feel that things are not going well!
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There is no 'right' for British women to have pain relief when in labour!
by Gill inmy neighbours daughter recently gave birth in a large uk teaching hospital to her second child.. the baby was a very large 10 lb boy and the labour went horrendously, during which grandma and the mother's partner had to argue with medical staff for help and pain relief.. they were told that women in labour have no 'right' to pain relief in the united kingdom and despite the fact that this young woman was screaming in total despair for nearly fifteen hours before four doctors turned up to help her and give her an epidural anaesthetic., she had no help but gas and air which didn't help her at all.
the hospital was crowded with young polish women also giving birth and the staff midwives told the girl's mother that they had to concentrate on these polish young women as they did not speak english and many of their babies were at risk because they were so small.. this young woman did not even have a private room to herself but was in a crowded ward!.
the young neighbour's baby twice went into distress with his heart rate dropping desperately low.
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Fifi - I apologise for any hurt feelings, completely.
As for those who are about to go into hospital to have their babies, more than likely everything will be fantastic, but forewarned is forearmed!
When my children cross the road, I remind them to be careful, vigilant and constantly observant. The same is the case for anyone about to use the Maternity Services. No doubt all will be fine.....but, that doesn't mean they shouldn't be extra careful and aware that their partner may have to support them more than he would have expected. Most births would go well even without hospital care, but it's the minority that slip through the net and suddenly turn dangerous that midwives and doctors should be on the look out for, and if they are over stretched someone may have to physically force them to help.
In the case of my neighbour, she had to insist and say 'NO' to the midwife who was about to walk out leaving her labouring daughter with her baby's heart rate falling, and no pain relief. First time and even experienced parents are not aware of signs to look out for, and overstretched midwives may not have time to observe these signs. She forced the midwife to fetch doctors and they intervened. Had this young girl and her young boyfriend been on their own, we might be recounting a different story as they didn't understand that things were going wrong.
FunkyDerek - Usually ALL women give birth in a private delivery room in a hospital, NOT in a ward. It is unusual in the extreme to give birth on a ward and not acceptable!
When I had my first child 23 years ago, we used to have such a thing as 11 weeks of antenatal classes and preparation for birth for 2 hours a week. It was always stressed that though a certain amount of pain in labour is inevitable, any excrutiating pain was unacceptable and we would always be helped. Labour should NEVER turn into a nightmare experience. If we needed an epidural it would be provided and there would always be a midwife with us throughout labour. Even eight years ago with my last child, this WAS still the case.
Now, there are virtually no antenatal classes available. Pain relief is NOT a right. And you'll be lucky to get a midwife to attend you during your labour as she is too busy running from room to room. Women are left totally alone if they have no partner with a midwife dropping in now and again. It is a sad and tragic deterioration. Women should not be sent home from hospital a few hours after giving birth and especially not in the middle of the night.
Someone with 23 years experience can see how the service has deteriorated and is NOT what it was and what it should be.
Fifi - Again with any apologies for any hurt feelings, but I think the first step is to get involved with our MPs. We could email the government email address and perhaps......someone who knows about setting these things up should set up some kind of on line petition.
Anyone who is about to have a child should consider learning all they can about the experience and getting antenatal classes.
A relative of mine has already decided that she will hire a private midwife for her care and labour at the local NHS hospital just to be sure that she has a midwife with her.
Labour is usually straight forward. But things can go pear shaped very suddenly, it did with all of mine. I wonder if I would have survived any of my labours in the 21st century when I hear what happens today.
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There is no 'right' for British women to have pain relief when in labour!
by Gill inmy neighbours daughter recently gave birth in a large uk teaching hospital to her second child.. the baby was a very large 10 lb boy and the labour went horrendously, during which grandma and the mother's partner had to argue with medical staff for help and pain relief.. they were told that women in labour have no 'right' to pain relief in the united kingdom and despite the fact that this young woman was screaming in total despair for nearly fifteen hours before four doctors turned up to help her and give her an epidural anaesthetic., she had no help but gas and air which didn't help her at all.
the hospital was crowded with young polish women also giving birth and the staff midwives told the girl's mother that they had to concentrate on these polish young women as they did not speak english and many of their babies were at risk because they were so small.. this young woman did not even have a private room to herself but was in a crowded ward!.
the young neighbour's baby twice went into distress with his heart rate dropping desperately low.
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Fifi40 - Your respect for the NHS is admirable and I also think that it has been a wonderful service.....but 'has been' is the operative phrase.
If we really care about the NHS we should not ignore the symptoms of its terminal illness and starvation of essential funding!
The first link I gave , that wasn't working, tells of 1000 avoidable still births in the UK.
That is 1000 bereaved sets of parents, two sets of grandparents potentially for each baby, aunts, uncles, brothers, sisters etc all grieving the loss of a baby that died because of lack of training and funding.
Saying, the NHS is fine because 9 out of 10 women survive the experience or the 'majority' are satisified' with their experience does no service to the NHS as it is a 'Universal' service and just because it appears to be free doesn't mean we should accept second class treatment.
At the Hospital in question that my daughter in law gave birth women are routinly turfed out of the hospital even in the middle of the night only a few hours after giving birth. That in itself should make us begin wondering what is going wrong.
The Health Service should not become a lottery where the majority survive, and never mind the minority who don't make it.....and what are we monaing for.....it's 'Free'!?
We have to fight for it to be first class again. Pretending it is 'OK' is not how we move forward.
Demanding the best for EVERYONE is the only way forward.
Women about to give birth should not be afraid but should be aware of 'potential' problems and have their partners ready to fight tooth and nail for them as my neighbour had to for her daughter. If she hadn't done that, that little boy would probably be dead by now! He is not an 'acceptable statistic' simply because the NHS 'appears' to be free.
If we care for it we need to not ignore where it is failing, and certainly praise the staff for the work they are doing while being strangled to death by a totally incompetent government that needs a boot up its arse!
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There is no 'right' for British women to have pain relief when in labour!
by Gill inmy neighbours daughter recently gave birth in a large uk teaching hospital to her second child.. the baby was a very large 10 lb boy and the labour went horrendously, during which grandma and the mother's partner had to argue with medical staff for help and pain relief.. they were told that women in labour have no 'right' to pain relief in the united kingdom and despite the fact that this young woman was screaming in total despair for nearly fifteen hours before four doctors turned up to help her and give her an epidural anaesthetic., she had no help but gas and air which didn't help her at all.
the hospital was crowded with young polish women also giving birth and the staff midwives told the girl's mother that they had to concentrate on these polish young women as they did not speak english and many of their babies were at risk because they were so small.. this young woman did not even have a private room to herself but was in a crowded ward!.
the young neighbour's baby twice went into distress with his heart rate dropping desperately low.
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Gill
After being home for nearly three days now, my neighbours daughter has still had no midwife or doctor attend her as they are 'very busy' and will get round as soon as they can.
Did someone say that the UK was dissolving into a green amorphous sludge?
Basically, we're all too apathetic and continue to allow everyone to tread us into the ground. Those who raise an issue are ignored as 'complaining is embarrassing and 'alarmist'. So the innocent continue to suffer while we all look the other way in and embarrassed 'british' silence!
Who is more vulnerable than a woman in labour and her baby?
Crazy world, and I remember how fantastic, excellent and first class the Maternity services used to be in this country!
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There is no 'right' for British women to have pain relief when in labour!
by Gill inmy neighbours daughter recently gave birth in a large uk teaching hospital to her second child.. the baby was a very large 10 lb boy and the labour went horrendously, during which grandma and the mother's partner had to argue with medical staff for help and pain relief.. they were told that women in labour have no 'right' to pain relief in the united kingdom and despite the fact that this young woman was screaming in total despair for nearly fifteen hours before four doctors turned up to help her and give her an epidural anaesthetic., she had no help but gas and air which didn't help her at all.
the hospital was crowded with young polish women also giving birth and the staff midwives told the girl's mother that they had to concentrate on these polish young women as they did not speak english and many of their babies were at risk because they were so small.. this young woman did not even have a private room to herself but was in a crowded ward!.
the young neighbour's baby twice went into distress with his heart rate dropping desperately low.
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Gill
Try this one. I think the above is not connecting for some reason.
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There is no 'right' for British women to have pain relief when in labour!
by Gill inmy neighbours daughter recently gave birth in a large uk teaching hospital to her second child.. the baby was a very large 10 lb boy and the labour went horrendously, during which grandma and the mother's partner had to argue with medical staff for help and pain relief.. they were told that women in labour have no 'right' to pain relief in the united kingdom and despite the fact that this young woman was screaming in total despair for nearly fifteen hours before four doctors turned up to help her and give her an epidural anaesthetic., she had no help but gas and air which didn't help her at all.
the hospital was crowded with young polish women also giving birth and the staff midwives told the girl's mother that they had to concentrate on these polish young women as they did not speak english and many of their babies were at risk because they were so small.. this young woman did not even have a private room to herself but was in a crowded ward!.
the young neighbour's baby twice went into distress with his heart rate dropping desperately low.
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Gill
A crying shame!
Britain does have some of the very best medical staff, midwives etc in the world BUT this only explains why 'near misses' like my neighbour's grandson are saved in the nick of time!
Sammielee - the figures only show that the maternity staff are fantastic at their job BUT the maternity service is floundering in the UK and it is a tragedy in the making by an inept government.
My daughter had to take a pregnant member of staff to the local A and E department yesterday.
She said there was dried blood spattered on chairs and walls and floors and the place smelt horrible. Now she has worked in hospital as she is a medical secretary and this was the hospital she trained at. She said she used the alcohol hand scrub for when she left the hospital and the floor mat to clean her shoes when she left, NOT when she arrived, she was so disgusted at the state of the place......not at all as she remembered it three years ago!
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There is no 'right' for British women to have pain relief when in labour!
by Gill inmy neighbours daughter recently gave birth in a large uk teaching hospital to her second child.. the baby was a very large 10 lb boy and the labour went horrendously, during which grandma and the mother's partner had to argue with medical staff for help and pain relief.. they were told that women in labour have no 'right' to pain relief in the united kingdom and despite the fact that this young woman was screaming in total despair for nearly fifteen hours before four doctors turned up to help her and give her an epidural anaesthetic., she had no help but gas and air which didn't help her at all.
the hospital was crowded with young polish women also giving birth and the staff midwives told the girl's mother that they had to concentrate on these polish young women as they did not speak english and many of their babies were at risk because they were so small.. this young woman did not even have a private room to herself but was in a crowded ward!.
the young neighbour's baby twice went into distress with his heart rate dropping desperately low.
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Fe203Girl - I think we know that we pay enough taxes in the UK to provide a good maternity service.
However, the government choose to spend it on putting pensioners in prison who don't pay their council tax, their own living expenses that we pay for and killing people in Iraq and Afghanistan!
Time to get rid of New Labour!