Magick - ee' by gum! That card would make a fantastic front page for a Watchtower!!!
Posts by Gill
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55Cross is a pagan symbol, watchtower is a pagan symbol too
by Noelle inyou all jehovah witnesses that said jesus didn't die on a cross but on a stake your wrong because the romans were pagans and what better way to crucify someone than on a pagan symbol.
i have a fact that you need to listen to as well, the watchtower which you symbolize is a pagan symbol as well.
oh no how can that be you ask, well let me tell you.. in ceremonial magic and some traditions of wicca and neopaganism, the four cardinal points are believed to have spiritual guardians called watchtowers.
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Remarkably Blatant Antiscience Statements in This Week's WT Study
by hamilcarr inis there still enough room for scientists in the wt?.
16. do we hear valueless things being uttered today?
for example, some scientists say that evolutionary theory and scientific discoveries in other fields demonstrate that there is no longer any need to believe in god, that everything can be explained by natural processes.
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Gill
This is a rather 'unfortunate' Watchtower, since science is quietly beavering away unlocking the mysteries of the universe....... unlike the WT society which is not going to discover anything with it's head locked firmly up its arse.
I would just like to remind you all of a fantastic thread by Leolai, in which the scripture the WT always quotes that is supposed to proved that the Jews knew the Earth was round, infact does nothing of the sort. 'The Earth handing upon nothing', means something quite different and I cannot give the thread justice. I can only hope that this fantastic thread by Leolai can be unearthed by someone who has not got an irritable 9 year old to get in the bath.....now!
I'd also just like to say, that if it wasn't for medical SCIENCE, a lot of the members of the Gibbering Boobies would already be dead and on their next great adventure.....so don't knock what you owe your life to!
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Cross is a pagan symbol, watchtower is a pagan symbol too
by Noelle inyou all jehovah witnesses that said jesus didn't die on a cross but on a stake your wrong because the romans were pagans and what better way to crucify someone than on a pagan symbol.
i have a fact that you need to listen to as well, the watchtower which you symbolize is a pagan symbol as well.
oh no how can that be you ask, well let me tell you.. in ceremonial magic and some traditions of wicca and neopaganism, the four cardinal points are believed to have spiritual guardians called watchtowers.
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Gill
With regard to the rays of that Sun, and this is pure speculation on my part, I suspect that should all the rays of a full sun be drawn in, there would probably be 33 of them.
C T Russell, being, most possibly either a Mason, or knowledgable about their esoteric beliefs may well have attempted to encapsulate everything symbolic of esoteric beliefs on the front page of the very early Watchtowers, bearing in mind that the original ones were called 'Zion's Watchtower'.
'Zion' was the name of the Masonic Order closest to where Russell lived.
I suspect that Rutherford would not have had esoteric leanings that Russell had and may well have poo - pooed 'all that clap trap'.
However, WT symbology remains very interesting when considering their origins but it appears, occassionally, even unofficially in modern mags, as in the famous / infamous picture in the 'Live Forever Book' where the thief is running from police and a necklace with an ornamant strikingly remsembling the famous 'Illuminati symbol' or 'the Eye of God' is falling out of his loot bag.
I suspect that the WT is basically just taking the p@@# out off everyone who chooses to follow them, as they are well aware that they are bull shitting everyone......and are in it for the power and the cash. You can't get to the top of an organization like the WTBTS without understanding that their whole belief system is built on postulating BS and understanding that basically, all they care about is MONEY.
They know who their God is and it sure ain't Jehooplah.....as they will have discovered in their vast library of esoteric beliefs who Jehovah really is....and more importantly.....who he definitely isn't.
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Cross is a pagan symbol, watchtower is a pagan symbol too
by Noelle inyou all jehovah witnesses that said jesus didn't die on a cross but on a stake your wrong because the romans were pagans and what better way to crucify someone than on a pagan symbol.
i have a fact that you need to listen to as well, the watchtower which you symbolize is a pagan symbol as well.
oh no how can that be you ask, well let me tell you.. in ceremonial magic and some traditions of wicca and neopaganism, the four cardinal points are believed to have spiritual guardians called watchtowers.
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Gill
Interesting 'Knights' Templar' picture (possibly) top right hand corner and is that a Bishop's Crook along with other 'weapons'. Never noticed those before and it's interesting how the WT has gone back to a simplified WT on it's study mags. Hmmm.
Still think they're stuffed, however.
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All Things Mystical - Real or Not?
by Sirona ingareth knight (real name basil wilby) is an author who i respect.
i have met him - he is getting old now but he's no less intelligent or fascinating.
some 40 years ago he wrote a well respected book called "a practical guide to qabalistic symbolism".
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Gill
Zagor - All of our 'experiences' are 'biological reflexes of the human brain' and part of a 'chemcal reaction' be it eating, driving a car or an unexplained case of esp or the paranormal. We do not discount the obvious physical reactions and yet what we have still not been able to pin down and explain......so far.....is easier to knock. That's only natural for the human species to 'fear' or 'discount' what it cannot explain.....except for the more adventurous few.
Not everyone gives a flying fart if other people consider them a loon. Infact being considered a loon, may well be the privilige of a few only! Everyone will just have to wait their turn!
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All Things Mystical - Real or Not?
by Sirona ingareth knight (real name basil wilby) is an author who i respect.
i have met him - he is getting old now but he's no less intelligent or fascinating.
some 40 years ago he wrote a well respected book called "a practical guide to qabalistic symbolism".
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Gill
Terry's reply (see above) is really interesting and what I would have believed if I had not begun to look into esoteric beliefs.
Once I did that, I realised and found to my shock that mysticism, mythology, ancient religions, sciences, etc whatever and everything that we might consider 'borderline' to reality, is in fact at the root of everything we do and have.
I would like to recommend again, 'The Secret HIstory of the World' by Jonathan Black, if you really want to know why and what and the wherefores of what we do, see and have and even believe as fact around the world.
I still go 'Wow' from some of the things I have learnt and i have heavily researched Jonathan Black's assertions hoping to find some holes in his assertions.
Nothing, absolutely nothing that you see in the world is what you think and there for the reasons that you might believe. There are things we have never noticed that mean so much that I cannot begin to tell you.
Read the book if you really want to 'know' and understand the world we live in and also understand that mysticism that is knocked by many, understandably, but still knocked when it shouldn't be, is at the very root and heart of everything we do and believe.
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All Things Mystical - Real or Not?
by Sirona ingareth knight (real name basil wilby) is an author who i respect.
i have met him - he is getting old now but he's no less intelligent or fascinating.
some 40 years ago he wrote a well respected book called "a practical guide to qabalistic symbolism".
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Gill
To have to change the established laws of physics to allow for esp, and all things 'mystical' might well be disturbing to a lot of people.
As sited earlier, many great scientists have had minds open enough to the possibilities that science as we know it is not necessarily the 'way it is' and because of them we have expanded our understanding and abilities.
To close our minds due to fear 'of the unknown' is ridiculous for a species such as ours.
We can easily be side tracked by frauds, but science has many stumbles and fraudsters (ie Japanese bloke or was he Korean, who claimed to have created a human clone) and we don't knock all of science.
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All Things Mystical - Real or Not?
by Sirona ingareth knight (real name basil wilby) is an author who i respect.
i have met him - he is getting old now but he's no less intelligent or fascinating.
some 40 years ago he wrote a well respected book called "a practical guide to qabalistic symbolism".
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Gill
We all need to open our minds, of course not so much that our brains fall out, but enough to understand that if we do not take into account other people's experiences then we may well lose many possible experiences ourselves.
Since studying constantly for the last five years, all I can say is that it is easier to mock than it is to listen.
To study the esoteric history of the world is, though understanding that it is important not to blindly believe mythology, mysticism, esoteric beliefs etc, but to understand that everything has its roots in some sort of fact.
Many of us laugh at the story of Noah's flood which we blindly believed as JWs and yet, the ice age did end, and there was unusual flooding in many parts of the Earth including Mesopotamia and hence a story was born which though not factually correct in cause did contain grains of truth.
The scientists mentioned above were able to visualise occult beliefs and therefore envision and give birth to scientific inventions that should make us at least ponder on what else we have yet to discover and understand.
The years ahead should open the door to quantum physics science a little furthur and who knows what we may then accept that we cannot accept now.
To those who are sceptical on any and everything, I say good, as you should be. But don't close your mind so much that you cannot imagine what the great visionarys and scientists of the past were able to imagine and so produce, and so seal of another dimension of thought and imagination than in itself is a life enhancing miracle.
I recommend the above book to anyone who would like to experience the world from another angle. Once read, the above book will make you look at the world in another way....a way you will never forget and will be life enhancing as well as totally enlightening. After reading it, you will NEVER look at the world in the same way again.
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All Things Mystical - Real or Not?
by Sirona ingareth knight (real name basil wilby) is an author who i respect.
i have met him - he is getting old now but he's no less intelligent or fascinating.
some 40 years ago he wrote a well respected book called "a practical guide to qabalistic symbolism".
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Gill
I thought that some might find this historical information interesting.
Nicholas Tesla, recently described by a historian of science as 'the ultimate visionary crank,' was a Serbian Croat who became a naturalized American. There he patented some seven hundred inventions including fluorescent lights and the Tesla coil that generates an alternating current. Like Newton's most important breakthroughts, this last arose out of his belief in an etheric dimension between the mental and physical planes.
In the late nineteenth and early twentieth centruies many leading scientists thought it worthwhile to pursue a scientific approach to occult phenomena, believeing that it would ultimately be possible to measure and predict occult forces such as theric currents that seemed only a shade more elusive than electromagnetism, sound waves or x rays. Thomas Edison , inventor of the phonograph and therefore the godfather of all recorded sound, and Alexander Graham Bell, inventor of the telephone, both supposed that psychic phenomen were perfectly respectable areas of research for science, involving htemselves in esoteric Freemasonry and theosophy. Edison tried to make a radio that would tune into the spirit worlds. Their great scientific discoveries arose out of their research into the supernatural. Even the television was invented as a result of trying to capture psychic influences on gases fluctuating in front of a cathode ray tube.
Charles Darwin attended seances. He may have had the opportunity to learn the esoteric doctrine of the evolution from fish to amphibian to land animal to human from his close association with Max Muller, early translater of sacred Sanskrit texts.
Giordano Bruno is a great hero of science because he was burned at the stkae in 1600 for insisting that the solar system is heliocentric. But as we have already seen, this was because he believed fervently in the ancient wisdom of the Egyptians. He believed that the eart goes around the sun because , in the first instance so to did the initiate priests of the ancient world.
The Secret History of the World by Jonathan Black
Science and the so called 'occult' have much to connect them in history and perhaps our own history is far more convoluted in mystery than we can imagine.
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All Things Mystical - Real or Not?
by Sirona ingareth knight (real name basil wilby) is an author who i respect.
i have met him - he is getting old now but he's no less intelligent or fascinating.
some 40 years ago he wrote a well respected book called "a practical guide to qabalistic symbolism".
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Gill
Narkissos - It is a fascinating subject. I never believed in such things and thought they were 'due to demons' because of WT teachings.
However, when I felt my Aunt pass away and told my husband, he was equally shocked to discover that she had passed away at that exact time.
When, a few months ago, I felt that a relative, another aunt had passed away, I didn't know who it was just that someone I knew well had just died. I told my husband and children and we were all equally astonished to discover that and aunt, thousands of miles away had passed away, at roughly the time I had said I had felt it.
When I told my husband he must get in touch with his grandmother as something bad had happened to her, he did, and she had had a stroke. I could go on.
These things cannot be explained by people liking the colour red.
I like to be sceptical about everything, but when you experience things repeatedly, you know there is something else and something more and it doesn't matter whether other people doubt or not, you know what happened and there are no easy answers.
However, I still strong recommend scepticism in all things.