i am a fortunate 'apostate'.
my parents are still speaking to me, regularly, and we also have been discussing jw doctrine.
however, they do not believe anything i tell them about the un scandal and that the wtbts was a member of the un for ten years before being removed by the un.
I am a fortunate 'apostate'. My parents are still speaking to me, regularly, and we also have been discussing JW doctrine. However, they do not believe anything I tell them about the UN scandal and that the WTBTS was a member of the UN for ten years before being removed by the UN. They will also not accept any info from the internet as the 'internet is the work of the debil!' Has any one any idea where I can get non-net proof of the scandal, please?
Thanks everyone, Gill
http://www.xenu.net/archive/so/index.html
wow... i couldnt stop reading this.
no offence really intended to any of you out there who believe this but you all are nutters!.
He,he! What a bunch of Mooses! Though I think, on this occassion that could be an insult to Mooses!
Candidlynuts! I've been wondering where you were all day.
Very funny! LMAO!
it makes you wonder when exactly the governing body and their lawyers decided to change the "generation of 1914" doctrine.
the first quotation below is from the 1992 wt and the second one from the 1993 brochure the purpose of life, just two lousy years before they imfamously dropped the whole idea:
*** w92 5/1 p. 7 the 1914 generation?why significant?
How long can you possible stretch 'a generation' to.
Time alone can destroy the JW cult. Many people WANT to believe it and there are non so desperate as those who have wasted a lifetime in nonsense.
It's the saddest thing in the world to still have family in the cult. You miss them but know that your happiness depends on your not being a JW.
Dansk and Claire, I hope your children come to their senses soon.
do you ever feel nervous or a little guilty talking about "jehovah god" in a negative way?
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I like to believe, and whether it's right or wrong I don't know, that God has been painted unfairly in the man written book, the bible and perhaps we've all been misled.
It seems to me that good, in the end always does triumph over evil, and that people are essentially good. So, I chose to believe that God is mainly or even completely just.
So, it troubles me to talk badly about God. About Jehovah, if that is his name, then also it would trouble me, but the truth of the name, I'm still not sure about.
Maybe he's been lied about and slandered by humanity and didn't really do all those things that the Bible claims he did.
I believe the JWs slander him constantly by threatening us all with eternal destruction. It's mainly religious people who speak negatively about God.
I like to keep a muted respect believing that everything people say about someone else tends to be wrong any way.
has anyone else observed or even taken part in the strange phenomenon of defending something even when you have doubts about it?
it's not a new phenomenon; i think freud called it "reactive formation".
i notice every now and then, jws and/or their supporters tentatively surface on the jw discussion board.
In paraphrased words of Shakespeare: 'Me thinks they do protest too much!"
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can you still recall nice moments you spent as a jw?
do you remember ever being happy there?
Like you, Sirona, My Husband!
this is from rud persson on http://www.channelc.org/cgi-bin/eboard30/index.cgi.. rud is a friend of carl olof jonsson.
afaik, he is "wolfgang herbst" co-author of the book "the sign of the last days - when?"..
posted by rudpersson on wed - dec 29 - 11:36am: .
This is shocking but sadly not surprising.
I know I have mentioned before about my husband's grandfather. He was put into a care home without our being told where he was. This was against his wishes and he had rung us on the day he was to be moved asking for us to contact him every day. He did not mention that he was going into a care home as he just assumed we had been told. It took us two weeks to track him down with the aid of his 'worldly' friends playing detective. All this just because we stopped going to meetings a few years ago.
So, nothing that JWs do surprises us.
for those of you who haven't read a previous discussion on why the watchtower hasn't mentioned anything on their website regarding the tragedy in south east asia, check out the following link... .
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/82640/1.ashx.
started by germanxjw... to whatever religion's website you surf, all have a comment on the tsunami in south asia: be it catholic, protestant, adventist, mormon, new apostolic or whatever.
This is normal thinking for an apocalyptic, survivalist cult. We shouldn't be surprised at their lack of interest in ordinary humanity and they fact they're only thinking of their own. It is rehearsal for Armageddon time.
the horrific scenes from se asia we have seen on tv over the past week will have an effect one way or another on many jws.
yes, the hardliners will see this as a part of the prelude to armageddon; "famine and earthquakes in various places".
(mat 24) this sort mentally dismisses the unequalled loss of human life, reasoning that most of these would have died at armageddon anyway.
Eyeslice, yes may be a few will be affected in that way. But the majority of the 'unthinking' JWs will cling even tighter to the 'raft of truth' seeing this as evidence that Armageddon is just ahead now'. Sadly.
